I can never hear Cleveland Center

[RIVERSMVP09]

I'm in Michigan and I hear planes calling Cleveland Center telling them they are at flight level 230 or something, but I never hear the center respond. Do I have to be close to te center?

[shaft]

Find a local RCAG site and program it into your scanner. You will for sure hear Cleveland center.
From the link above, figure out which site is closest to you. You dont need to program all of them in your scanner.

[RIVERSMVP09]

cool thanks.

[eorange]

In my experience, you still need to be right on top of the RCAG. The RCAGs don't have any more power, or a different radiation pattern, than the center w/ respect to hearing them on the ground. The RCAGs simply provide more coverage for the planes in the air, along with serving as backup sites.

I live about 20 miles from the Chardon RCAG, and no way can I pick up the ground comms from my house. So one day I drove out to that RCAG. I only started hearing ground comms when I was about 1 mile away.

[EMD91123]

Depending on the frequency and what it is being used for it may determine reception range. Maybe it is used as a low level sector freqnency that does not need great transmitter power. Whereas high level sectors in my experience you can get pilot/controller about 20 miles out from the transmitter(RCAG). What freq iis it if I may ask ???? If you want to get a good 150-180 mile range on high altitude you will need to plug in all the listed frequencies. Low level at 16000-20000 feet probably a good 130 mile range.

Mike
Tampa Bay Florida

[eorange]

Not sure who you were asking, but here's the details of the Chardon RCAG, by me.

By the way, I never dug into this - what exactly does low, high, & ultra high mean? Do those refer to altitude ranges, and if so, what are the altitudes? Does it matter how far away the plane is from the center, as the crow flies? I know you gave some details in your previous post...

CHARDON
120.7750 LOW DISCRETE
298.9500 LOW DISCRETE

[shaft]

Low Altitude = Up to 23,000ft
High Altitude = 23,000ft to 33,000ft
Ultra High Altitude = Above 33,000ft

[EMD91123]

beat me to the puch shaft I see. Ultra if I am not mistaken runs above anywhere between 340-370. I'll scan and post a copy of the sectors when I am at home on my home set.

[thenewsden]

Quick question. Looking at the RCAG list, how do you know where the transmitter is located. I live in ZNY coverage area, but from the names on the RCAG list doesn't give me a clue where they are located? Thanks.

[w0fg]

Are we talking about aircraft or the ground station?? If it's the ground station, you'll need to be within 10-15 miles. Aircraft, on the other hand, can be heard out to 150-200 miles if they're up above 33K ft, less distance at lower altitudes as previously noted.

[shaft]

Originally Posted by thenewsden

Quick question. Looking at the RCAG list, how do you know where the transmitter is located. I live in ZNY coverage area, but from the names on the RCAG list doesn't give me a clue where they are located? Thanks.

Barnstable looks to be the closest one to you

Originally Posted by FreqOFNature.com

BARNSTABLE
125.9250 HIGH OCEANIC
135.8000 HIGH OCEANIC
284.7500 HIGH OCEANIC
381.6000 HIGH OCEANIC

[EMD91123]

As promised

[EMD91123]

And Low Sectors

[thenewsden]

Originally Posted by shaft

Barnstable looks to be the closest one to you

Actually I think that Big Flat is the closest one to me. I only say that because if I travel south approx. 10 miles I am able to pick up both the low and high sector for that transmitter. I was just curious if there is a way to tell where they are located. Thanks.

-Lee

[EMD91123]

KZOB CLEVELAND ARTCC

[eorange]

I had found the actual location on freqofnature.com, but their database link doesn't seem to be working:

Freq Of Nature Databases

[thenewsden]

Originally Posted by eorange

I had found the actual location on freqofnature.com, but their database link doesn't seem to be working:

Freq Of Nature Databases

I am not able to get that link to work either. It must not be a valid link any longer.

[BMT]

These are the LAT/LON for the RCAG.
ALGONAC
N082-31-59.670W297119.670

ALTOONA
N078-34-34.060W282874.060

BELMONT
N081-01-40.350W291700.350

BLOOMINGVILLE
N082-42-27.000W297747.000

BRADFORD
N078-37-09.090W283029.090

CHARDON
N081-09-47.360W292187.360

OBERLIN,OH
N082-12-17.550W295937.550

CLEVELAND(BRECKSVILLE
N081-41-00.650W294060.650

DANSVILLE
N077-39-10.980W279550.980

DETROIT
N083-28-27.060W300507.060

DETROIT NORTH
N083-21-59.750W300119.750

DUBOIS
N078-53-56.000W284036.000

DUNKIRK
N079-16-27.150W285387.150

FINDLAY
N083-39-59.750W301199.750

FLINT
N083-44-27.840W301467.840

HOLLAND
N078-34-11.080W282851.080

JACKSON
N084-27-33.850W304053.850

JACKSON
N084-27-33.850W304053.850

LITCHFIELD
N084-42-17.860W304937.860

MANSFIELD
N082-30-14.600W297014.600

MOON TOWNSHIP
N080-13-25.210W288805.210

MORGANTOWN
N079-51-37.240W287497.240

MOUNT HOPE
N081-45-59.470W294359.470

PARIS
N081-08-54.360W292134.360

PITTSBURGH(OAKDALE)
N080-09-23.900W288563.900

SAGINAW
N084-04-33.930W302673.930

SANDUSKY
N082-42-31.650W297751.650

WARREN
N079-15-49.160W285349.160

WATERFORD
N080-01-25.190W288085.190

WATERVILLE
N083-38-19.160W301099.160

WAYLAND
N077-36-58.960W279418.960




BMT

[rcool101]

Did you ever try to here it on the web? Go to this link and go all the way to the bottom of the page. I know Pitts rcvr for Cleve Centr works

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