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01-07-2012, 9:14 AM
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Its secret encrypted info being sent by the CIA, They are probably watching you guys now just for talking about it. Peek out your windows and look for black Suburbans......lol
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10-25-2012, 12:15 PM
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Sorry for resurecting an old thread, but I Just heard the "Rick Rolling" again.
123.450 sure yields some strange stuff!
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10-25-2012, 3:27 PM
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123.450 is not a legal air to air freq. 122.750 is however an FAA designated air to air freq for fixed wing. Just a lot of a dumb Pilots out there.
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11-01-2012, 10:31 PM
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Now that the flight crew don't have to listen to 121.5 as the emergency beacons have changed frequency, there's a spare radio up the front. It's quite handy at times to be able to call another aircraft when ATC tells you that you can climb/descend when passing other traffic - if you can't see him, how long do you wait? Just call his flight number on 121.5 and it's quite likely he'll call you back - some just a quick "I see you" will do - 'cos it's easy to look up, but not so easy to look down. Playing music is a bit dumb, tends to spoil it for everyone else.
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123.450 is not a legal air to air freq.
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I don't know about 'illegal', how about 'unauthorised"?
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11-02-2012, 2:26 AM
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Now that the flight crew don't have to listen to 121.5 as the emergency beacons have changed frequency, there's a spare radio up the front. It's quite handy at times to be able to call another aircraft when ATC tells you that you can climb/descend when passing other traffic - if you can't see him, how long do you wait? Just call his flight number on 121.5 and it's quite likely he'll call you back - some just a quick "I see you" will do - 'cos it's easy to look up, but not so easy to look down. Playing music is a bit dumb, tends to spoil it for everyone else.
I don't know about 'illegal', how about 'unauthorised"?
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Not sure what you mean by "how long do you wait?" but, ATC won't issue a clearance to climb or descend unless there is no conflict between aircraft or, an aircraft can maintain a visual separation between another aircraft. 121.5 is still used as a guard frequency in the United States. It's still monitored by Atc facilities to reach out to aircraft that have gone out of radio range of a sector they were in. Also the USAF uses it to try and contact aircraft that enter airspace they're not supposed to be in. So, its still off limits for general chit chat.
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11-02-2012, 2:20 PM
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Apologies - must have been a brain fade - I meant to say that they can call the other aircraft on 123.45 - certainly not 121.5 - that is still monitored by ATC around here too!
Quite often I hear ATC say to an aircraft that if they have visual on another then they are clear to descend/climb - VFR only of course. Our airways aren't as congested as yours 
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11-02-2012, 10:07 PM
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maybe all the music that people are hearing are simply pilots working on their "INSTRUMENT RATINGS", sorry couldn't resist that one.
Out here on the west coast/left coast, 123.45 is a general chit chat frequency for a-a, a-g and radio shops, it's the CH-19 of avionics use.
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11-05-2012, 4:36 PM
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Apologies - must have been a brain fade - I meant to say that they can call the other aircraft on 123.45 - certainly not 121.5 - that is still monitored by ATC around here too!
Quite often I hear ATC say to an aircraft that if they have visual on another then they are clear to descend/climb - VFR only of course. Our airways aren't as congested as yours 
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You wouldn't need a clearance to climb or descend if you're operating VFR. If you're operating IFR you would but, that clearance would only be issued if you were in VMC conditions.
I get what you're saying though!
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11-05-2012, 9:58 PM
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Aircraft still have guard receivers monitoring 121.5. About a month ago, someone on that freq down in Arizona stated that they were about to crash, and I heard about a dozen commercial aircraft over central/northern Arizona give details of what they heard to LA Center on 124.200MHz.
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11-10-2012, 10:05 PM
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Aircraft still have guard receivers monitoring 121.5. About a month ago, someone on that freq down in Arizona stated that they were about to crash, and I heard about a dozen commercial aircraft over central/northern Arizona give details of what they heard to LA Center on 124.200MHz.
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It's not a guard receiver so much. It's just the second comm radio set to receive on 121.500. Usually in cruise flight we monitor this. As we get closer to our destination airport the second comm radio can be used for obtaining weather, calling operations on the ground, etc. While primary ATC operations stays on comm one.
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11-11-2012, 9:28 PM
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123.45 MHZ is the pilots CB channel 6!!! 😃
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