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Old 06-14-2018, 7:14 AM
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Does anyone have the new FT-4XR yet? I am in the market for a new HT and it looks nice. I don't think I want to pursue any C4FM or D-Star HT's (not enough folks to talk to here). Thanks very much!
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Old 06-14-2018, 1:15 PM
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I'll just pass along some ancient wisdom :

Buy more radio than you think you need or want ,as things change and you grow in the service and find new and different intrests ,you may very well be able to use a radio you already own,instead of having to go out and buy something completely new, its saved me a truckload of money ,at this point and time purchasing a radio that's analog only is a fools errand , because later on you may develope an intrest in digital or you might decide to sell the radio and get something else ,having it capable of one or more digital modes will command a higher price on the used market ,trust me dstar radios go for premium money because everytime they want to add a feature or function ,they discount the old model so dramaticly it's nuts (they want to dump the old model so that the new one can again command a high price for the addition of some feature).
So honestly in my experience buying analog only is a mistake ,using this simple wisdom has kept me ahead of the curve of buying new radios for over 30 years ,also save your boxes and manuals it adds value to the radio should you ever sell it .

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Thanks for responding. I already took a swing at DMR with an MD-380. I also have an IC-7100 with D-Star and a FT-991 with C4FM. So I have dabbled in the digital voice world. I just not interested in it at this time. Don't get me wrong, I wish a C4FM repeater would get on the air in my area and a bunch of locals would want to talk C4FM simplex but it just isn't happening unfortunately.
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Thanks for responding. I already took a swing at DMR with an MD-380.
Dont let the experience of owning a bottom of the barrel radio ruin the DMR experience for you.
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Thanks for responding. I already took a swing at DMR with an MD-380. I also have an IC-7100 with D-Star and a FT-991 with C4FM. So I have dabbled in the digital voice world. I just not interested in it at this time. Don't get me wrong, I wish a C4FM repeater would get on the air in my area and a bunch of locals would want to talk C4FM simplex but it just isn't happening unfortunately.
You must be in one of the few small pockets of the US amateur radio world where a club or clubs haven't jumped on the opportunity to get a brand new repeater from Yaesu at a very reasonable price. The option to not leave the analog-only operators behind while offering a digital taste for those who want to go there is a great advantage. There are multiple repeaters in my area in that mode and only one is operating exclusively digital. The clubs seem really happy with being able to replace some really old Moto gear that was becoming tough to keep on the air.
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Yaesu gave great deals on those repeaters hoping users would buy digital radios to use on the digital repeaters. Things didn’t quite work out that way. The repeaters around here are set to RX analog, & digital, but to transmit analog only, so all radios will still work. Very few users purchased digital radios to use with the new repeaters. But many clubs were able to get new repeaters for $500. Yaesu must have lost a bundle on that.
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Folks, the topic of the thread is specifically the FT-4XR transceiver, not Yaesu System Fusion in general.
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So I picked up the FT-4XR. It's real nice. Admittedly, I am coming from many years of CCR's so any real HT is an improvement!!! Speaker is very loud and clear. Programming is very easy from the radio. I wish that the numbered keys had quick menu access. So you could theoretically press "function" and the key 4 would double as a power level menu shortcut lets say. The CCR's have this. But then again, I hate programming those things from the radio!!! Size of the FT-4XR is nice. Small. Buttons are small as well. I think I may also pick up the FT-65R. It does not have dual VFO on the screen but can do a dual monitor. I think I like the dual VFO on an HT more in concept than actual practice.

I notice the drop in charging cradle takes 12V in from the plug in wall wart. I would really like to get another cord so I would pug into a 12V battery to charge or the car. Any thoughts on this? Don't see why it wouldn't work.
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I notice the drop in charging cradle takes 12V in from the plug in wall wart. I would really like to get another cord so I would pug into a 12V battery to charge or the car. Any thoughts on this? Don't see why it wouldn't work.
I have done this several times with different brands of radios where the wall wart supplies 12/13.8 volts. Just be sure to get a liter plug cable where the polarity of the plug for the charging stand matches the one supplied with the radio.
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Terrific! Thanks for the tip.
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Dual independent VFO's are great, If you are randomly traveling , or want to monitor multiple channels .
Today's radio are more versatile than many people utilize .
In the days of limited volatile memorize the VFO was revolutionary , now with radios having so much memory ,i have every working active repeater and common simplex channels preprogrammed into memory .the Yaesu's are nice radios I own more than a few ( been licensed over 30 years) and not bash them but yaesu does not the best memory management )in a good radio for excelent memory management and great menus in my opinion look to Kenwood, there most inexpensive HT in there line currently is the 72 ,which costs more than the 65 but it has many features the 65 doesn't like a built in GPS & TNC so it can do APRS & Packet, but with it you can dial direct to memory bank you want ( if you set your rig up for different areas you can enable and disable independent banks of 100 channels in each bank) you can also go directly to any given channel. I dont have a 72 anymore i got a 74,and i realize its only august but unless the money is burning a hole in your pocket , the two times of the year to buy radios with the best discount are around Dayton ham fest and the Christmas/ Holiday season ,so unless you have a desperate need now for another radio ,play for time ,till the holidays , i will PM yoù a candy store that i have found that does some unique things ,and usually will beat any price anywhere else.

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And for everyone's information, I did make a 12V direct plug for the drop in charger. I found an extra wall wart and cord where the DC low voltage plug was a perfect match for the drop in charger. I cut off the wall wart side and installed Anderson Power Poles as this is my 12V power standard. Works 100%. I checked the output of the charging tabs with the digital multimeter and all values matched same as the provided Yaesu wall wart.

Wrath-thanks for the info. I'll take a look at the Kenwood HT's!
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I've had mine for about a month now. My first Yaesu and my first "real" HT. I like it.

I purchase for size and battery composition, and it doesn't disappoint on those points. Very small and compact. Battery life is great, to the point I leave the backlighting on most of the time. Solid build and feel in hand. MARS/CAP mod is a key sequence-no internal mods necessary. Menu is pretty straight forward and easy to program. RX audio is good.

Cons:
No key/PTT lock while scanning.

The free programing software from Yaesu is lacking. The software shows things selected that aren't really selected when you download from your radio.

TX audio on one local repeater is very low. I don't know if its the particular repeater or radio wide. No mic gain to adjust.

Like most HTs, stock antenna is no good. As Yaesu's "Baofeng Killer", the radio uses a Baofeng type connection. I purchased a Diamond SRJF10 "Stubby Duck" and am very surprised with the performance. I also purchased a Diamond SRJ77CA and while pleased with the performance, I'm not sure if the center conductor is making the best connection.

Having said that, It'll take a Baofeng antenna, but not a Baofeng speaker mic. It looks like a Baofeng speaker mic connection, but its not. The pins are much closer together.
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As a simple, compact, no frills HT with great battery life and around $100, I'd say its a good buy and I have no buyers remorse. However, to really put the crush on the chinese radios, Yaesu could have added some firmware features (e.g lock while scan) and it wouldn't have cost them any more time or effort.
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Good point about the antenna connection style. I had purchased a handful of Nagoya antennas for the CCRs and they all work with the FT-4XR. Yes the external speaker much connection is different. I actually like this one better as the speaker portion is a 1/8" mono mini plug. Makes for using standard earbuds very easy. I have a little 1/8" mono male to 1/8" stereo female adapter that helps this work.

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