ICOM-9100 HF/VHF/UHF/1.2 Gig/D-STAR

[trace1]

New ICOM radio shown at the Japan Ham Fair.

http://www.ab4oj.com/icom/ic9100/IC-9100_prerelease.pdf

New IC-9100: Tokoyo Ham Fair Video | DX World of Ham Radio

[N6RDC]

This looks very interesting....I wonder how much it'll be? $$$

[SOFA_KING]

It does look interesting. I wonder how much that 1200 unit will cost. An arm and a leg, I bet.

I would like to see HF digital built into the radio. I would also like to see the IC-7000 with D-STAR and HF digital. How about something a little more exotic like the 756 Pro IV? I bet it is just a matter of time.

With all of this D-STAR taking off in the Icom line, how long do you think the other manufactures will sit on their @$$? I like Yeasu stuff, but I'm buying Icom because they have the edge. Kenwood? eh...not my favorite.

Phil

[K2QI]

D-Star probably won't be adopted by the other manufacturers for a long time, for reasons already discussed in other threads.

[N1BHH]

D-Star is proprietary to Icom. In the business world it takes an awful lot of money and genius to allow another manufacturer to utilize another manufacturers formula, patent or brand name. In some areas of the country D-Star is not very much in use. I don't have any and probably wouldn't get any equipment unless there is widespread use of it.

[W9RXR]

Originally Posted by N1BHH

D-Star is proprietary to Icom.

No, it's not. I quote from Icom America's own web site "[D-STAR] is an open standard digital communication protocol established by JARL (Japan Amateur Radio League)."

So far, Icom is the only manufacturer to include D-STAR in a commercially-made radio sold in the US. However, that is not an indication that D-STAR is proprietary to Icom. In contrast, for many years Kenwood was the only manufacturer to include APRS capabilities in a commercially-made radio, but that did not mean APRS was proprietary to Kenwood.

[SOFA_KING]

Originally Posted by W9RXR

No, it's not. I quote from Icom America's own web site "[D-STAR] is an open standard digital communication protocol established by JARL (Japan Amateur Radio League)."

So far, Icom is the only manufacturer to include D-STAR in a commercially-made radio sold in the US. However, that is not an indication that D-STAR is proprietary to Icom. In contrast, for many years Kenwood was the only manufacturer to include APRS capabilities in a commercially-made radio, but that did not mean APRS was proprietary to Kenwood.

Roger that! ~

I watched a youtube video from Icom on D-STAR and they even said "other manufacturers" can and most likely will make D-STAR equipment. There is nothing stopping them. They would be foolish not to because they will loose market share.

How people can make such enormous false statements is beyond me. D-STAR is very cutting edge stuff with real advantages. It sounds good (end to end digital with set levels to keep audio loud and clear without distortion or under/overdrive problems). It works very well with all the networking features and data being incorporated on one channel with voice. It is really starting to grow and take off world wide. D-STAR.ORG shows this every day. We just got another repeater with wide coverage in Sanford, FL. I can hear it and I'm over 120 miles to the south of it. I predict D-STAR will take hold and transform the VHF/UHF bands forever. For the first time in ages we have something that really is innovative and useful...and easy to use once you understand the call routing options (not hard...use the D-STAR calculator for that...simple!). You want to stay in the dark ages? You can do that, but some of us are forging ahead and you will be left in the dust.

As for this radio, I heard that it might not do high speed data on 1200. This may not be fact. We know little about it as it has not been released here in the US. It would be dumb not to include high speed data on 1200! The manual should be available soon. I would like a IC-756 Pro version or even a IC-7000 version. I think in time we will see that...and maybe even with digital HF!

Phil

[detroit780]

While the naysayers insist that D-Star is proprietary to Icom the fact is D-Star is an open standard. What is proprietary is the AMBE CODEC and it belongs to DVSI.

The DV Dongle is a D-Star device you plug into your computers USB port and allows you to use your PC with a microphone to talk on D-Star via the gateway and come out on any D-Star repeater.

There is a repeater in England that uses an analog repeater attached to a D-Star encoder decoder made by a Japanese Professor. This is now up on the D-Star gateway.

Currently there are 500 D-Star repeaters in the US. 1 1/2 years ago there were 150. Here in Michigan there are about 18 D-Star repeaters with another 10 licensed and waiting to be installed.

In Medical district 1 there are 9 counties and they are all licensed and currently have 2 D-Star repeaters each. Some just don't have them on-line yet.

It's not for everyone and it won't replace analog anytime soon but it sure is growing at a healthy rate.

Les
W8MSP
W8LIV nodes B and C

Originally Posted by N1BHH

D-Star is proprietary to Icom. In the business world it takes an awful lot of money and genius to allow another manufacturer to utilize another manufacturers formula, patent or brand name. In some areas of the country D-Star is not very much in use. I don't have any and probably wouldn't get any equipment unless there is widespread use of it.