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Old 08-02-2009, 07:09 PM
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Default Grand Canyon - working a wildfire

On the Grand Canyon feed in Coconino County AZ - they are working a wildfire - Eng 732 and Eng 1661 are cutting their way into the fire - Helo 9 Echo Victor will drop 3 helitack people at the scene, and then will do bucket drops - the feed is also busy with EMS calls on the South Rim - Medic 1 has a child that fainted in the deli at the General Store - Sierra 40 arrived first on that call.

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Old 08-02-2009, 07:38 PM
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Helo 368 is enroute to the Ridge Fire with 4 onboard at 737PM EDT - they were talking on the "Fire Hopi" repeater.

746PM EDT - fire report - the (? Ridge Fire ?) - 36 25 .987 - 112 07 .502 - elevation 8939 - lightning caused - no values threatened - smoldering / creeping fire on a ridge top - winds from North at 2 to 5 - sounds like the dispatcher might be busy with several fires

835PM EDT - reported that they have a "saw line in" - not a hand line - they are doing a hose lay - some mention of "short angle work"

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Arizona currently has 5 wildfires burning with four of them near or around Grand Canyon. It got pretty smokey today. I didn't get to listen to any of that since I was busy. Hopefully tomorrow or tuesday I'll try to pick out some freq. and add them to the feed.
Here is the info regarding the fires from the NIFC fire page.

NEW Miller (Kaibab National Forest): 390 acres at an unknown percent contained. This fire is seven miles southeast of Tusayan. Moderate fire behavior was reported.

NEW Rae (Kaibab National Forest): 250 acres at an unknown percent contained. This fire is four miles southeast of Tusayan. Moderate fire activity was reported.

NEW Anderson (Kaibab National Forest): 214 acres at an unknown percent contained. This fire is 16 miles southeast of Tusayan. Moderate fire activity was reported.

Wildhorse (Kaibab National Forest): 1,149 acres at an unknown percent contained. This previously reported fire is 16 miles northeast of Williams. Moderate fire activity was reported.
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In the same general area is the Red Fire on the Coconino National Forest. All the fires on the Kaibab NF are being managed with a confine/contain strategy. This means they will be allowed to burn to predetermined boundaries "confining" the fire within those boundaries using natural and/or preexisting man made barriers, usually roads or utility corridors. Containing a fire means that a combination of natural/man made barriers and newly constructed fireline is built to keep the fire from making major runs should the possibility present itself. The objective of confine/contain is to allow the fire to burn within predetermined boundaries that have been established by a fire management plan already written.

The Red Fire on the Coconino is being managed for resource benefits and there is no plan to contain or confine it. If increased fire activity presents itself then a change in objectives may occur.

This is done to return fire to its natural role in fire dependent ecosystems. The Kaibab NF is the star on public lands this year for the fires they have managed using confine/contain and resource benefits objectives. An additional benefit is the lower cost of managing fires in this manner. This cannot be done when fires are near man made developments such as subdivision, towns, and cities, in or near the wildland/urban interface. The Tusayan Ranger District and the northern portion of the Peaks Ranger District on the Coconino NF are fairly isolated, giving the Forest Service enough room to use this strategy with lower risk.

Weather, fuel moisture, and time of year have a lot to do with the decision made as to what strategy is used on a fire. A fire in late May or early June with very low fuel moisture in the larger fuels may result in a fire in the same area having full and immediate suppression action taken.

Another star Forest in this new policy is the Gila NF in New Mexico. For the last 4-6 years previous to this one they have had the most acreage using this policy. They haven't had many fire starts this year and that has not allowed them to use this policy as much. Good and well researched fire management plans have to be written and approved before a public land jurisdiction can implement this policy. I started my Forest Service career on the Kaibab in 1974 and am excited to see the progress that Forest has made in returning fire to its natural role.
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KD7CKQ - thanks a bunch for the feed - I listen in alot.

Today I heard - "Central, Unit 11 departing Station 4" - previously "Station 5" was mentioned. Any idea what that is about?

I also heard (?) Bravo 33 (?) calling "Show Low Dispatch" on "National" - I am guessing that "National" is 168.35 on 163.10.

(If anyone has a list of the fire trucks at Grand Canyon - or the fire stations - I would love to see them).

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Old 08-08-2009, 10:41 PM
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I only listened for about 30 minutes this morning. "Central" is Xanterra Fire & Security Net. Unit 11 was most likely either doing security checks or making sure assets were where they are suppose to be. I know with all the fires. The TAC channels have been getting used alot. Are you using WinAmp to listen to the feed? If so, what was the channel name along the bottom when he called?

edit: here is a link to see current fire incidents in AZ.
http://www.inciweb.org/state/3/

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I was not using Winamp to listen. I will give that a try later on. Peter Sz at 1042AM EDT
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