Civil Air PAtrol NFM/P25 transition in No Az

radioprescott · #1 (**permalink**) 09-13-2009, 04:34 PM

Redrock 41 announcing on 148.150 FM that the Mt Eldon (Flagstaff) tower will be down. He states when it comes up again it will be narrowband and P25 on the new channel designator.

Redrock 41 back up with radio checks in NFM [CTCSS 151.4] and P25 [no NAC decode cababilty here

]. Answered by a "Redrock" unit on "Mt Lemon correction Mount Romeo", apparently patched to or simulcast on Mt Eldon.

Redrock 41 Id'd the channel as "Romeo 46"

Also heard P25 testing on 148.125, with poor decode and no voice

FLANO · #2 (**permalink**) 09-13-2009, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by radioprescott

Redrock 41 announcing on 148.150 FM that the Mt Eldon (Flagstaff) tower will be down. He states when it comes up again it will be narrowband and P25 on the new channel designator.

Redrock 41 back up with radio checks in NFM [CTCSS 151.4] and P25 [no NAC decode cababilty here

]. Answered by a "Redrock" unit on "Mt Lemon correction Mount Romeo", apparently patched to or simulcast on Mt Eldon.

Redrock 41 Id'd the channel as "Romeo 46"

Also heard P25 testing on 148.125, with poor decode and no voice

EXCELLENT catch John!

I'm reprogramming mine for the Mt Lemmon area. I ordered a PRO-106, and it should be here on the 15th.

FLANO · #3 (**permalink**) 09-15-2009, 11:21 PM

Just received my PRO-106 and had just programmed it, when Redrock-71 opened the Arizona Wing Civil Air Patrol VHF Group-1 Net. Unfortunately, analog was used. 148.15mhz, PL 107.2. I knew this as Channel 9 on Mt Lemmon. Today, it was identified as Romeo-56.

Not many net check-ins, one with a relay for multiple stations.

The net was active between 1930 and 2000 hours MST.

It might be time to start logging all these different Romeo identifiers and which repeater it is on in a Wiki page...

FLANO · #4 (**permalink**) 09-16-2009, 07:07 PM

Some type of CAP exercise ongoing at 4pm, today.

Arizona Highbird working with three Cap Flights (234 and 237, didn't catch third). At least one aircraft is over the Tombstone MOA.

Redrock-43 is controller for this event.

148.15mhz PL 107.2 - Mt Lemmon

Anyone catching this anywhere else in the state?

radioprescott · #5 (**permalink**) 09-16-2009, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FLANO

It might be time to start logging all these different Romeo identifiers and which repeater it is on in a Wiki page...

Added a table to the Arizona Page. We can move it if we need to....

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The net was active between 1930 and 2000 hours MST....

I have never heard regular net actvity up north here...

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Anyone catching this anywhere else in the state?....

Not here ...

FLANO · #6 (**permalink**) 09-16-2009, 09:35 PM

Thanks for adding it to the Arizona Page.

It turned out that there was no digital use, and it was an air defense exercise between CAP, CBP, and the USAF.

It was rather interesting, as the CAP aircraft we're intercepted by F-16's, ID'd, and turned over to CBP aircraft for escort to land.

John
SE of Tucson

mike_s104 · #7 (**permalink**) 09-16-2009, 09:47 PM

has anyone caught P25 encrypted traffic during the testing? I caught some where yesterday during tests that were P25 encrypted.

FLANO · #8 (**permalink**) 09-16-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mike_s104

has anyone caught P25 encrypted traffic during the testing? I caught some where yesterday during tests that were P25 encrypted.

On which freqs? Did you catch the NAC?

Thanks,

MtnBiker2005 · #9 (**permalink**) 09-16-2009, 11:59 PM

Mike was talking about his area. See his post in his state.
148.1250MHz CAP Secondary - P25

Since I'm posting this above.... Southern California made the switch this week also.
Another mountain top is going be worked on Thursday. So more good news for us

Civil Air Patrol-California

mike_s104 · #10 (**permalink**) 09-17-2009, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by FLANO

On which freqs? Did you catch the NAC?

Thanks,

No NAC caught...was setup for that at the time. I didn't expect it. :-)

mike_s104 · #11 (**permalink**) 09-17-2009, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mike_s104

No NAC caught...was setup for that at the time. I didn't expect it. :-)

meant to say was NOT setup for getting a NAC at the time.

FLANO · #12 (**permalink**) 09-17-2009, 11:38 PM

Thanks Mike.

We'll see what happens down here, hopefully soon

ecps92 · #13 (**permalink**) 09-19-2009, 11:05 AM

That's a good idea for the Wiki, since not many users have caught the actual use of the R-## it will help. Monday I will work on making the Wiki more into a Table [Sortable] for this.

PS is the AZ net nightly ? or what nights? I added it to the wiki as nightly for now....
or is it a Squadron NET vs a Wing NET

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Originally Posted by FLANO

Just received my PRO-106 and had just programmed it, when Redrock-71 opened the Arizona Wing Civil Air Patrol VHF Group-1 Net. Unfortunately, analog was used. 148.15mhz, PL 107.2. I knew this as Channel 9 on Mt Lemmon. Today, it was identified as Romeo-56.

Not many net check-ins, one with a relay for multiple stations.

The net was active between 1930 and 2000 hours MST.

It might be time to start logging all these different Romeo identifiers and which repeater it is on in a Wiki page...

FLANO · #14 (**permalink**) 09-20-2009, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ecps92

That's a good idea for the Wiki, since not many users have caught the actual use of the R-## it will help. Monday I will work on making the Wiki more into a Table [Sortable] for this.

PS is the AZ net nightly ? or what nights? I added it to the wiki as nightly for now....
or is it a Squadron NET vs a Wing NET

It appears to be a nightly call at 7:30pm weekdays for traffic, but it is not always designated as the Group-1 net.

I took a look at the AZ Wing CAP website and there are four groups, so guess we'll need to figure out when the other three meet

I know that the Group-1 Net I listened to relayed for other stations not part of Group-1. So, it could be possibly happening at the same time as the Group-1 Net, maybe.

FLANO · #15 (**permalink**) 10-01-2009, 05:05 AM

Looks we have two independent dates, one from last week and from yesterday, that the NAC code on 148.15mhz, at least for Tucson area is 430. Still conducting radio test traffic only. This was confirmed by one of our local scannerists here in Tucson.

radioprescott · #16 (**permalink**) 10-30-2009, 08:55 PM

Got a hit on 148.150 with NAC 526. No voice, but my 396 showed P25....

Very strong signal makes me suspect Mingus Mt for this report. Definitely weaker than the Bill Williams hit early this month.

AlabamaRS · #17 (**permalink**) 10-30-2009, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by radioprescott

Got a hit on 148.150 with NAC 526. No voice, but my 396 showed P25....

Very strong signal makes me suspect Mingus Mt for this report. Definitely weaker than the Bill Williams hit early this month.

Civil Air Patrol - The RadioReference Wiki

ecps92 · #18 (**permalink**) 10-31-2009, 10:03 AM

In analog you should look for 131.8 Hz for that same Site.

Based on a report from Alabama this might be R-48

Any luck during the nightly nets??

Also, odd to see only 1500 reported in AZ and nothing on 1250 Hmmm

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Originally Posted by radioprescott

Got a hit on 148.150 with NAC 526. No voice, but my 396 showed P25....

Very strong signal makes me suspect Mingus Mt for this report. Definitely weaker than the Bill Williams hit early this month.

FLANO · #19 (**permalink**) 10-31-2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ecps92

....Also, odd to see only 1500 reported in AZ and nothing on 1250 Hmmm

I can't recall ever hearing anything on 148.125. I keep an official log of my own for first, recent and/or last heards, and I've got nothing noted at all for that freq.

ecps92 · #20 (**permalink**) 10-31-2009, 08:36 PM

The reason I say odd, is that
1250 is now the Primary Rptr Channel and
1500 is now the Secondary Rptr Channel.

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Originally Posted by FLANO

I can't recall ever hearing anything on 148.125. I keep an official log of my own for first, recent and/or last heards, and I've got nothing noted at all for that freq.