AZ Statewide TRS

[FLANO]

I was listening to a couple of techs this morning on the Mt Lemmon Repeater. The road tech was located on R-387, 2 mi west of I-10 in the Casa Grande area and his radio was hitting the Thompson Peak and Mt Lemmon Repeater. The radios that he tested, favored the Mt Lemmon Repeater (Site 21). From my location, I have not been able to verify which Site is the Thompson Peak repeater.

The tech also mentioned South Mountain and White Tanks Repeaters. South Mountain we have ID'd, but not White Tanks.

Anyone watching this system? How about with Unitrunker?

The TG was 1035. I have been hearing more and more tech stuff.

Also, had several hits on TG 310. Controller in the clear with "1111" and several mobiles in encrypted mode

I haven't been able to find anything decisive on the internet that says the YRCS is being absorbed by an AZ Statewide system, but from all indications, that is what's happening. Anyone?

[cellphone]

From about 32nd Street and Baseline

Site 120 South Mountain. I receive this site at 5 Bars of signal, and 1-2 bars with no antenna.
Neighbor Sites:
107 770.18125 Cannot receive
121 770.41875 Cannot receive
122 774.29375 2 Bars of signal. (My guess at White Tanks site as I also receive the RWC White tanks site at 2 bars)
123 774.34375 5 Bars of signal.
124 773.08125 5 Bars of signal.
125 770.44375 Cannot receive

I'm thinking that site 123 or site 124 might be Thompson Peak.

Can anyone confirm my guesses of White Tanks and Thompson Peak?

Here is additional information on Sites 122, 123, and 124.

Site 122
774.29375 control
774.04375 alternate
Neighbors
107,120,121,123,124,125

Site 123
774.34375 control
774.09375 alternate
Neighbors
120,121,122,124

Site 124
773.08125 control
773.33125 alternate
Neighbors
107,120,121,122,123

During the short time I was looking at the sites, there was not activity or affiliations.

[FLANO]

Excellent!

Would you like to submit or shall I just take it from here?

[FLANO]

Try 770.4375 for site 125.

Site 121 is broadcasting that freq... but I hear the control signal, and it decodes much better on 770.44375.

[FLANO]

Found this link which identifies where the expansion occurs from the YRCS Master Site Controller:

Regional law enforcement communications gets grant, global attention, yuma, agencies, system - News - YumaSun

Of interest is the following:

"The $2.2 million will go toward the enhancement of six DPS transmitter sites that will enable links with Cochise, Pinal, Santa Cruz and Pima counties,Wilkinson said."

Sounds like I have to make a trip down south of me

[FLANO]

I was just a little bored this evening and have come up with a candidate to rename the YRCS TRS.

Regional Communication Systems Connections (RCSC)

Check out this PDF put out by AZGITA in June of this year:

http://www.azgita.gov/psic/meetings/..._6_21_2011.pdf

[FLANO]

I was able to positively ID Site 125 as located at Tumomac Hill in Tucson. The site is a filler location for the Mt Lemmon blind spot in western Tucson area from about downtown heading north on I-10 to the other side of Pusch Ridge.

It is hearable from as south as Green Valley, to the east as far as Vail.

Don't know why, but I hear and can decode the control channel on 770.44375 better than the frequency being broadcast by its neighbor site 121. Site 121 indicates the control channel is on 770.4375. I've forced it on that for trunk tracking and decoding with unitrunker, but no joy. 770.44375 always works. Go figure.

[aensr]

I am in Surpise near Grand Ave & 303, I hear the following new sites

R001 Site 022 or Site 122 774.29375 5 Bars Very Strong I would think White Tank

R001 Site 023 or Site 123 774.34375 4 Bars Steady

R001 Site 024 or Site 124 773.08125 4 1/2 Bars

I do not know the level of Thompson Peak in my area never have listened but another that could be in the mix is Towers as I do hear that in Surprise.

Alan
WA6AGA

[radioprescott]

I can literally see Towers from my front window. There is no 700 activity from there yet, unless it is a very focused antenna pattern. None of these freqs are 'hearable' from my QTH.

RWC is planning on installing a high site there, but was delayed due to last winter's weather.

I regulary hear MCSO site 14, APS site 25 and some LTR systems, along with the usual VHF/UHF conventional freqs from Towers.

[radioprescott]

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[mm]

Ok,

Lets see if I understand this correctly, the state has no money so they are taxing internet transactions and spending money on a radio system that really isn't needed especially since DPS recently upgraded to brand new MASTR III UHF repeaters throughout the state a few years ago.

By this I mean that DPS already has a new working state wide UHF system that covers all counties and is capable of being linked up across counties but now they want to spend money and replace all of the existing GE UHF MASTR III conventional repeaters with 700 MHz Mastr III trunking repeaters, so far I understand.

What I don't understand and what doesn't make Sense to me is why not just use the existing MASTR III UHF system, which is already narrowband capable, and forget about 700 MHz which will not work in half of the state anyway assuming the same number of repeaters are going to be used ?

Oh wait did I say makes sense ?

Where is the money coming from to upgrade to the 700 MHz system, which will require at least 10 times the number of repeaters to match existing 460 MHz coverage and may not even work in the mountains ?


Oh well no problem so far as I'm sure that the money from the internet taxes will go to this new system.

I'm sure that everyone here will correctly document their new internet scanner purchases to fund the new 700 system or is the money coming from a DHS grant, maybe huh ?

We all know that the feds have tons of money to throw away and we all know how much our governor loves federal help especially when it's free money.


OK I'm getting off of my soap box soon.

My main point is that the existing 460 repeater system is already using GE MASTR III repeaters that are narrow band capable and have been working very well since the 1970's and DPS helos are already using brand spanking new Wulfsberg P2000 analog/digital radios that have UHF modules in them.

Oh well I'm sure another 24 thousand dollar upgrade per P2000 avionics radio to add in all 700 MHz modules is just a drop in the bucket and the AZ taxpayers won't have any problem funding this nonsense.

After all the P2000 sales will go to helping jobs in the state, oh wait I just forgot that Wulfsberg radio doesn't exist anymore, they are now owned by Cobham, a British holding company that doesn't have to pay taxes in the US and doesn't care about US jobs only about their stock holders.

Oh well I'm sure that the good sheep uh I mean citizens of AZ won't have any problem funding this nonsense.

and please don't anyone ask me how I really feel about this(sarcastic), ok as promised I'm now off my soapbox

Mike

Prescott AZ and Salem Ore depending on what week of the month it is.

[cellphone]

Originally Posted by aensr

I am in Surpise near Grand Ave & 303, I hear the following new sites

R001 Site 022 or Site 122 774.29375 5 Bars Very Strong I would think White Tank

R001 Site 023 or Site 123 774.34375 4 Bars Steady

R001 Site 024 or Site 124 773.08125 4 1/2 Bars

I do not know the level of Thompson Peak in my area never have listened but another that could be in the mix is Towers as I do hear that in Surprise.

Alan
WA6AGA

With this, I am fairly confident that site 122 is White Tanks.

123 and 124 I believe are either Thompson Peak or North Mountain, but I'm not sure which yet as I receive both Thompson and North Mountain equally from my location.

Here are some other freqs you can use for comparison to help determine which is which:

Other Thompson Peak Sites
TRWC 868.3625
MCSO 859.2625

Other North Mountain Site
RWC 769.28125

[aensr]

I am sure White Tanks is Site 122 Also. I have been listening to it this evening and there has been DPS traffic on TG 1001 and the quality and strenth of the signal it is White Tanks for sure.....

Alan
WA6AGA

[cmaness2001]

Someone turned on Site 123 at 0613 this morning, DPS Metro (1002) is being cross-banded. I have confirmed voice frequencies of:
773.09375
773.34375
773.59375
773.84375
This site is very strong from my QTH in Queen Creek (33.208693,-111.617234)

[cellphone]

I was able to listen a little while out and about this weekend. With this, and what I am hearing from others, I am fairly confident:

Site 123 is Thompson Peak
Site 124 is North Mountain

[FLANO]

Those 3 sites have been updated.

Thanks,

[cmaness2001]

Why does Unitrunker report the control frequency as 774.29375 when I'm parked on 774.34375?

[xts3000r]

so they go 700mhz. p25 why. when uhf p25 trs would have work just as well.i love the radio sells men. they must have some way with words. i know i cant get my boss to get new radios. let a lone go p25 700mhz

[cellphone]

Originally Posted by cmaness2001

Why does Unitrunker report the control frequency as 774.29375 when I'm parked on 774.34375?

Unitrunker is showing correctly showing 774.34375 as the control channel for me on site 123. Try removing the control channel by highlighting it, and hitting the minus button in the tool bar. It should immediately reappear. See if that fixes the issue.

[cmaness2001]

Thanks, that did the trick, it's now showing 774.3475.