Phoenix PD Encrypted HOT calls

[desert-cheetah]

Originally Posted by AirScan1

There was some interesting call from the MCSO detectives
I assume this sunner the lake side MCSO patrol should be good.

Not just this summer. I've heard quite a few stranded hiker calls on Lakes. It can be decent listening year round, especially Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays.

[AirScan1]

MCSO Helicopters on patrol
but with the encrypted call of phoenix PD then what's the use having a digital scanner?
Seems that encryptions is getting toooo far out of control, if it gets too far making scanning worth less
I guess I be seeing you guys out in the parks using metal detectors lol jk

MCSO detectives have a good chase calls you hear the sirens go off
of course there other PDs in arizona and counties, can on;y go to them if encrypted calls be a problem

a ;ot medical helicopters hear the paient's medical conditions heart rate , blood pressure, etc etc and where the [aient is head to
the same with PMTs SWAs fire EMS

I keep looking for some frequenices to post

[new_to_scanners]

This is all just so depressing to me. I loved listening to my scanner back in the day when you could even get channel 6 with Glendale and hear the officers talk about where to go for dinner......now I can't get anything on Glendale, they've encrypted the C channels with Phoenix, what the heck. I've lost my source of entertainment. Thanks Glendale and Phx PD........

[AirScan1]

Originally Posted by new_to_scanners

This is all just so depressing to me. I loved listening to my scanner back in the day when you could even get channel 6 with Glendale and hear the officers talk about where to go for dinner......now I can't get anything on Glendale, they've encrypted the C channels with Phoenix, what the heck. I've lost my source of entertainment. Thanks Glendale and Phx PD........

You can listin to some area PDs GYPD and others
don't let encryptions stop you from your monitoring go to frequenices

[chris480]

We all could come together and try and get them to change there mind! Seems like since this new Police Chief came into town they encrypt, they change there uniforms (PD doesn't even like the new dress code, we live in the hot desert!) Is the media not making a big deal about this yet? I haven't heard anything else. I know the longer we wait the harder it will be to get them to change it back... I have been listening to DPS more, and MCSO, just most MCSO calls are not near my area at all as they don't really patrol Phoenix streets. I agree it is public safety and we should have the right to listen to what's going on in our neighborhoods.

[KB7MIB]

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According to another commenter here, something a media member did is the reason Phoenix PD encrypted their C-deck TG's. And Glendale does seem to have it's radio issues, even on their clear A-1 and A-4 TG's. But there's still plenty to monitor.

[AirScan1]

so what choice do you have ?
I listin to phx pd on my scanner app on my phone
but if the encryption continues than you just have to find other frequnices
face it encryption means this non of your business and they don't want you hear and tell.

[Arizona_Scanner]

I guess I should have seen this coming. I really think it has to do with the new chief, and even more with what happened in California with Dorner.

Radio Reference feeds caught the cops talking about setting off "burners" before the house burned down, and I believe there was a comment to the effect of "let the (expletive) burn" that was recorded. I feel the police simply don't want the public hearing things and either catching them in a mistake or misinterpreting things.

The hobby is dying at an ever increasing rate. What a shame.

[pepsima1]

Well when your own brotherhood which are your cop buddies keep getting killed then you throw the burners in that house like they did and burn that place to the ground and screw what the media hears or said. **** them.

They burned the place to the ground and then took the chard piece of burnt meat and did what needed to be done with it and its all done. The news of it is finally going away as it should be.

Done and over with and lets clean our hand clean and get on with life. The world does not stop spinning for no one and I mean no one.

[AirScan1]

I hear you, just have to find a another frequencies to hear
you should hear the school uis frequency there is lot interesting traffic on it

[AZScanner]

Well we can either rock the boat and make a big fuss about not being able to hear the cops on a few select channels and watch them all go dark or we can sit quietly and try not to get in the way (I'm looking at you, local media) and enjoy what we can still hear in the clear. People can do as they wish, but as for me, I'm opting not to rock the boat.

As for not knowing what the cops are up to in your neighborhood, well by all means if you really want to know, look up the PIO's phone number and ask him next time. It's his job to tell you, he is a PUBLIC information officer. Perhaps if he gets enough phone calls he will talk to the chief about setting up an active incidents page or twitter feed so the public can be informed of what's going down in a particular area.

-AZ

[new_to_scanners]

AZScanner, you keep referring to the "media" who screwed up and you seem to have some inside information on it. Are you talking about the whole Donner deal or our local media? Just curious.

[rdale]

I've yet to see a PIO job description include that... Is that just a Phoenix thing?

[chris480]

[QUOTE=AZScanner;1920615]Well we can either rock the boat and make a big fuss about not being able to hear the cops on a few select channels and watch them all go dark or we can sit quietly and try not to get in the way (I'm looking at you, local media) and enjoy what we can still hear in the clear.

Those few channels were the ones that had the most information on them! I think if enough people rock the boat they will give in! If the media did cause this they should give them another chance, I think they have learned their lesson, but again the longer it goes the harder it will be to get it changed. Maybe once this Police Chief leaves they will get someone in there that works with the public like Sheriff Joe does! He understands the need to be transparent and open to the media even if its scrutiny!

[new_to_scanners]

I can understand that the first priority needs to be protecting the officers, what with more and more bad guys having access to scanners......but the P.D. has the option of switching to encrypted whenever they want. It's a shame that whatever happened, which as far as I'm concerned should be mentioned, that we all pay for it. I am willing to rock the boat. It just seems to me that this new police chief is not into working with the community or officers. Making them wear ridiculous uniforms in unbearable heat, name tags on the tables, crazy assignments, encrypting channels. No, there is know God given right to listen to a scanner, but by encrypting when it is not necessary makes it appear they have something to hide.

[chris480]

Originally Posted by new_to_scanners

I can understand that the first priority needs to be protecting the officers, what with more and more bad guys having access to scanners......but the P.D. has the option of switching to encrypted whenever they want. It's a shame that whatever happened, which as far as I'm concerned should be mentioned, that we all pay for it. I am willing to rock the boat. It just seems to me that this new police chief is not into working with the community or officers. Making them wear ridiculous uniforms in unbearable heat, name tags on the tables, crazy assignments, encrypting channels. No, there is know God given right to listen to a scanner, but by encrypting when it is not necessary makes it appear they have something to hide.

I agree 100% with you! What's funny is that this guy came from Dallas, they don't even have a digital system LOL! I bet once he found out that all he had to do is have a switch pressed to enable encryption that's what he did! Oh well not sure what else we can do, I have gone to listening MCSO and DPS... It is a shame!

[AirScan1]

hey nothing with MCSO and DPS it better than nothing
I hear a lpt of interesting stuff on mcso and dps.

but some will be making another spiecal scanner and that too have cost price tag

[rdale]

Originally Posted by AirScan1

but some will be making another spiecal scanner and that too have cost price tag

That's the first I've heard of this new special scanner coming... Details? Timing? Price tag?

[Arizona_Scanner]

I sent this letter to our mayor, and similar letters to the police department, the news directors for Channels 3, 5, 10, 12, and 15, and also the Arizona Repuplic. It might not change anything, but I feel that those who care should take a few minutes and do the same.

Honorable Mayor,


In what I think is a tragic move, the Phoenix PD has decided to encrypt all but the most mundane radio traffic, including hot calls. This means the media and public will no longer be able to know what is going on when they hear sirens, and won’t be able to assist police in catching the bad guys. All those extra eyes and ears will be lost, and the sense of transparency for our public, tax payer funded police agency will be lost.

Phoenix PD has had encrypted "channels" available for sensitive operations where officers or the public are at risk for years, but they have always been "open" about the majority of daily operations. Extra eyes and ears have helped them catch bad guys countless times thanks to police scanners, and the public deserves to know what their police force is doing. I can personally share my story of helping the Phoenix PD put away an armed robber who was on the loose when I spotted his getaway car and contacted an officer who was able to catch him after the guy had lost all of the responding officers.

Transparency with regard to the majority of non-sensitive radio traffic instills respect for the job our officers do, and involves citizens in the policing of their communities. I see no reason to hide the majority of the daily activities of the police department that we as tax payers fund. It was never needed before, and it isn't needed now. Let's keep our police department's activities transparent aside from sensitive / tactical operations. Citizens and the media should be able to pick up a scanner and hear what is going on around them. If you heard that a dangerous criminal was loose in your neighborhood, you would probably lock your doors, stay inside, and prevent further risk to officers. Citizens should also be utilized as extra eyes and ears where possible, as this only makes sense.

I feel the citizens of Phoenix have a right to insist on transparency, so long as officers and the public are not being put at unecessary risk, which in the majority of "hot calls" they are not. There are always ecnrypted channels available when needed, but please keep our police force transparent where possible. I am contacting you, the police force, and all valley news agencies to request that everything possible be done to reverse this unfortunate decision.

Thank You,

Michael Ormandy

[AirScan1]

there other pd frequencies around i hear goodyear pd