problem scanning phoenix pd

metro121 · #1 (**permalink**) 01-23-2008, 06:23 PM

I recently picked up a BC296d and progarmmed it with MCCSO and Phonix PD.
I have no problem with MCCSO but when I try to scan PPD, it usually picks up a DATA channel and nothing else. I enabled the DATA SKIP in the scanner and reset the squelch and digital but no luck. Is there a trick to scanning Phoenix PD.
I also use it in Vegas and California and no problems there either.

Metro121
met121@msn.com

hulka · #2 (**permalink**) 01-26-2008, 03:55 PM

I have a Pro-96 and have the same problem with Phoenix. It is hit or miss for me. I might pick up some calls then it drops right out.

Does anyone have a Pro-96 file with phoenix set up in it that works that can post on here so I can compare?

Thanks

Kevin

SkipSanders · #3 (**permalink**) 01-26-2008, 05:49 PM

From the database here, it seems that Phoenix's trunk is one of the relatively few that actually is a 9600 baud true apco 25 system.

If so, you don't want to program it as 'smartzone', etc, but rather as a 'P25' system. Might be labeled as 'Project 25 Standard'.

Looks like the system has a LOT of sites, so you might just not be using the control channel of the closest site, too, and getting a weak signal.

hulka · #4 (**permalink**) 01-27-2008, 06:42 AM

I have all the control channels programed in and it is still hit or miss. I live 43rd Ave and Basline so I am a stone throw from South Mountain.

bigjstud1108 · #5 (**permalink**) 01-27-2008, 04:04 PM

I had the same problem when I worked at 44th ST and Baseline. I could not monitor Simulcast A. So I entered all the Simulcast in to my Pro-96, one simulcast into each bank. I found out that Simulcast C gave me the best coverage and hits on the PRWN.

Simulcast C Freqs

Simulcast C 867.97500 MOT 0.0 D
Simulcast C 867.20000 MOT 0.0 D
Simulcast C 868.28750 MOT 0.0 D
Simulcast C 867.86250 MOT 0.0 D
Simulcast C 868.25000 MOT 0.0 D
Simulcast C 867.66250 MOT 0.0 D
Simulcast C 868.13750 MOT 0.0 D
Simulcast C 867.36250 MOT 0.0 D
Simulcast C 868.42500 MOT 0.0 D
Simulcast C 868.47500 MOT 0.0 D

PRWN Control Channels

Phoenix PD 764.93125 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 860.98750 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 867.07500 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 867.08750 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 867.10000 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 867.11250 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 867.13750 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 867.16250 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 867.18750 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 867.20000 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 867.21250 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 867.25000 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 867.35000 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 867.45000 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 867.63750 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 867.67500 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 867.72500 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 867.75000 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 867.82500 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 867.83750 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 867.83750 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 867.90000 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 867.93750 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 867.96250 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 867.97500 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 867.98750 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 868.06250 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 868.07500 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 868.27500 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 868.30000 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 868.31250 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 868.35000 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 868.36250 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 868.45000 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 868.46250 MOT 0.0 D
Phoenix PD 868.50000 MOT 0.0 D

hulka · #6 (**permalink**) 02-02-2008, 10:02 AM

Thanks. The C/C that I had were not the ones you had. I reprogrammed it to those and I will see what happens.

Question, what so you have the top part set as?

Mine is:
Normal 3600/9600
Base 800.000
Offset 380
step size 25.00

bigjstud1108 · #7 (**permalink**) 02-02-2008, 05:10 PM

I didn't understand your question? But from what i think you are trying to ask is what the MOT trunking table set at?

I don't touch there settings, i just use the default settings on my Pro 96:

MOT 3600 - Normal
MOT 9600 - Normal

MOT Custom Trunking Table
Base Freq: 406.0000
Offset: 380
Step Side kHz: 25.00

The PRWN is a P25 9600 CC System and I believe that you don't have to enter any other info other than the Freq, Rx Mode (MOT). Hope you understand that.

hulka – do you have Win96, I could post a phoenix file.

hulka · #8 (**permalink**) 02-02-2008, 10:27 PM

Yes I do. Actually I pick up the Fire Dispatch pretty good and not any of the PD stuff. If I do pick up any it is in bits and pieces. I have A-4, B-4, C-4 programmed in and I know it is a busy talk groups because it is South Phoenix. I will post mine tomorrow. I have to get the kids to bed.

Thanks.

Kevin

wlmr · #9 (**permalink**) 02-03-2008, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hulka

I have all the control channels programed in and it is still hit or miss. I live 43rd Ave and Basline so I am a stone throw from South Mountain.

South Mountain seems to be a backup site. Use either Simulcast A or Simulcast C. You don't need the voice frequencies, just the main control channels. Look here.

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=2508

hulka · #10 (**permalink**) 02-21-2008, 07:46 PM

I have all of the control channels programmed into one bank and still no go. I think it might just be the scanner. Then again I pick up MCSO with no problem. Sorry for the delayed posting. Attached is my p.96 file.

ctrl · #11 (**permalink**) 02-21-2008, 09:30 PM

For phoenix the only control channels that carry all the traffic all the time are rotated between these two:

867.9625 - live right now
867.2125

Program only these two, as these are the only ones that have been used for the past couple years, constantly. Only one of them will be live at a time.

Sorry this is as much help as I can provide, I own a 396 myself.