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Old 06-09-2016, 7:14 PM
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SteveSnake - I am curious about 2 things in your post:

1) What modification would be needed to use the Nokia BL-5C battery?

2) What advantage would there be to using the Nokia battery?
The WLN battery is Li-ion, 3.7v, 1500mAh
The Nokia BL-5C is Li-ion, 3.7v, but it's only 1020mAh?
The BL-5C also includes the information of "3.8wh", but the WLN does not show that info.

I'm not sure what the advantage is other than finding cheap replacement batteries on eBay, or having charged spares on hand when needed.

I know at some point I am going to open this sucker up to see how the antenna is configured, lol.
I don't recommend opening the radio apart for the antenna. The antenna is surrounded by injection molded plastic and you will have to cut it open in order to access the wire. Just a recommendation.
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I don't recommend opening the radio apart for the antenna. The antenna is surrounded by injection molded plastic and you will have to cut it open in order to access the wire. Just a recommendation.
Thanks for the heads up on that. Probably best to leave it alone since that is the case. For my purposes (scanning) it actually exceeds my expectation so far.
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Hope that helped! No problem.
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NC-1- what did you have to do to get the programming to work, ive been trying and still no luck
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Old 07-20-2016, 12:22 PM
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I just bought a cheap UHF 16 channel transceiver to be used as a scanner since everything here worth listening to is UHF.
It is a WLN KD-C1 and the manufacturer appears to be Quanzhou Kelly Electronics Co., Ltd., and I can't find the manufacturers website to make an inquiry.

Locating the programming software on the internet has resulted in an exercise in futility. I would think that since these are being sold on eBay, it would be somewhat easy to find.

Does anybody know where to find the programming software?
Instead of giving you a long strung out go nowhere answer, message me and I forward the SW too you. It wasn't that hard to find.
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Old 07-21-2016, 2:53 PM
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NC-1- what did you have to do to get the programming to work, ive been trying and still no luck
Where exactly are you running into problems?
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Old 07-21-2016, 2:55 PM
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Instead of giving you a long strung out go nowhere answer, message me and I forward the SW too you. It wasn't that hard to find.
I got it. Found the download near the bottom of 409 Shop's page. 409shop walkie talkie buy-two-way-Radio-Wholesale-retail

Everything is working great so far, but then again I'm only using it for receive.
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Old 07-31-2016, 4:57 PM
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Nice small Radio. I picked up a couple of these for the small size. I have not tried to program them yet, just charging them. The size sure is great, and your battery numbers sound impressive which might be justification for keeping these simple without a display or keypad. Their slim profile does make them better for some tasks maybe more so than the UV-3R+ or something, which is small but a little thicker. The UHF limitation obviously has its cons, but also it's pros in terms of form factor. I didn't see these listed on on the Budget Wiki page yet. I've had these for a month, but just got to opening them up today and never thought about the programming until now. Too preoccupied with other stuff I guess. Luckily you did the legwork to get that sorted out. I wish you could lock the monitor on. The manual implies there is high-and low power-options, but looks like that is only controlled from software? The 10sec timer for transmissions is a bit restrictive, and I suspect it may be related to heat dissipation.
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Default WLN kg-c1 software

It's out there. This radio is programmable. I used the WXUSB cable from Powerwerx or HRO. If you can't find the software let me know and I'll get it to you.
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Old 08-05-2016, 10:21 AM
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Question 220 mhz

anyone play with it on the 220mhz band?

It seems to put out a decent signal, a wee bit deaf down there. I wonder if changing the coils might help open it up a bit. Removing a few chip resistors would knock out the band pass filter.

anyway, I expanded the frequency coverage up to 520mhz and down to ??? mhz,

check out: WLN KD-C1 220 MHz Soft Mod
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anyone play with it on the 220mhz band?

It seems to put out a decent signal, a wee bit deaf down there. I wonder if changing the coils might help open it up a bit. Removing a few chip resistors would knock out the band pass filter.

anyway, I expanded the frequency coverage up to 520mhz and down to ??? mhz,

check out: WLN KD-C1 220 MHz Soft Mod
Dangerous. I'd bet you are putting out full power on the 70cm harmonic! All other radios who have had these software hacks done will do that. A 222.22 signal will transmit full power on 444.44 Mhz. Tune a 70 cm radio to the harmonic of the 220 freq you use and you will see.

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Old 08-05-2016, 5:31 PM
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anyone play with it on the 220mhz band?

It seems to put out a decent signal, a wee bit deaf down there. I wonder if changing the coils might help open it up a bit. Removing a few chip resistors would knock out the band pass filter.

anyway, I expanded the frequency coverage up to 520mhz and down to ??? mhz,

check out: WLN KD-C1 220 MHz Soft Mod
Now the question is, can it work in the 800mhz band? lol

I figure if it can go to 220, it should be able to make the swing to 880.

Very interesting radio for sure, too bad the RX is poor with the frequency change.

What is the easiest way to take these apart anyway? Mine seems to be catching on something inside and I dang near break the plastic before giving up. Hidden screw maybe?
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Old 08-05-2016, 6:43 PM
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If all you want to do is the Soft Mod, it is a software change. You do not need to open up the radio.

However, if you want to peek inside, I assume you removed the back cover and removed the screws?

I will take some hires photos this week. Google Images already has a nice picture of the inside but not good enough to read chip numbers.

I have a nice camera for taking macro shots. I'll post on this thread. right now I am updating all of my computers to Windows 10 Anniversary Edition. Why? I hate myself and need the aggravation on a Friday night.
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Old 08-05-2016, 6:49 PM
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anyone play with it on the 220mhz band?

It seems to put out a decent signal, a wee bit deaf down there. I wonder if changing the coils might help open it up a bit. Removing a few chip resistors would knock out the band pass filter.

anyway, I expanded the frequency coverage up to 520mhz and down to ??? mhz,

check out: WLN KD-C1 220 MHz Soft Mod
I edited the file, but I keep getting "Beyond the limited scope of the input data!"

I know the new file saved, and I even shut down and booted back up again thinking there was something stuck in the memory. It won't take the 223.580.

Is there a step that was omitted?
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Old 08-06-2016, 1:57 PM
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I was playing around with the different settings in Machine(M), and set it for 370-390 MHz. I entered in 388.825MHz and loaded it up just to see what would happen. Well, the frequency counter it did not see the 388.825 at all, however, it DID find a solid 777.650 MHz signal!

That is coincidentally a frequency for wireless microphones. The 388.825 only doubled, but did not triple, no signal at 1166.475.

This is a very curious radio.
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Old 08-07-2016, 11:42 PM
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Did you save the config.ini and then copy it onto the existing file? Windows is picky about you editing something in the program files directory.

I had to save the file to the desktop, then copy it on top of the existing file. Also make sure you are not in the program when you do it.

The 2 lines that make a difference are these: (Freq Low, Freq High)
fl=B11934E4577223FC029E7D9B7ABDB3B8
fh=EEDEF0B3FE5E8B86029E7D9B7ABDB3B8

The other lines do not seem to expand the range.

If you try to edit the live file, use Notepad++ because when it detects the failure to overwrite, it auto re-opens the file in administrator mode. OR... simply save to the desktop *then* copy on top of existing file.

I do believe the radio is putting out spurs. But it is also putting out on the desired frequency. I has able to talk on 223.58 simplex with a *real* 220 radio. A schematic would help. Changing the filters could turn the radio into a 140-225 instead of 400-480.
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Old 08-07-2016, 11:47 PM
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No, not the OJ Simpson story.

To come up with the numbers for the ranges, I set the radio to 136m-150m and made note of the FL numbers.
I then set the machine(m) to 400m-520m and made note of the FH numbers.

I exited the program.
Manually edited the config.ini using the new FL & FH and went back into the Radio software. I was then able to enter the wide range of frequencies and my real 220 radio was able to communicate with the WLN radio. A cross the city test showed the WLN radio was being picked up 8km away on 223.580
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Old 08-08-2016, 2:26 PM
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I did everything as you said and the modified config.ini file is saved in the program.
It still comes back with the error and will not take the 223.580

I don't know what the problem is on this end, my modified file looks exactly like the one you posted.

Oh well, it was worth a try.
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Old 08-08-2016, 10:15 PM
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Not sure what to to tell you. It works on every laptop and desktop I have tried, home & work and a friend's laptop.

when you display the directory listing, do you see exactly 1 file starting with the name of "config" ?

I am trying to determine if you have extensions hidden which means "config.ini" is actually "config.ini.txt" on your machine.
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buenas noches desde colombia
quien me puede ayudar con el sofware del radio WLN
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