Double Homicide suspect from OC ex cop on run in Riverside. Just shot 2 PD

[cj5]

Originally Posted by daneg

I would instantly have it streaming else where. There is no reason for that. I would put it else where if it was taken down or put on a delay.

Exactly, there is audio software out there that does this. Listening to the feed yesterday, I heard a commanding officer reprimand some deputies to not broadcast tactical on 8. So there must've been another secure channel in use.

[nbdyspclk]

SB 8 has switched all traffic other than ancillary dispatch to Homeland Security provided radios in use by I.C.E. out of San Diego,also have switched to milcoms out of march AF base,CHP has also switched to TAC12(new)running side by side with Inland Dispatch

[Rick1959]

Originally Posted by nbdyspclk

SB 8 has switched all traffic other than ancillary dispatch to Homeland Security provided radios in use by I.C.E. out of San Diego,also have switched to milcoms out of march AF base,CHP has also switched to TAC12(new)running side by side with Inland Dispatch

Homeland Security set secure nets up late last night early this morning, was not aware of an additional milcom net(s?) out of March AFB but certainly makes sense. Possibly COTHEN, although I am not sure how well HF would work in this situation...Don't believe COTHEN supports VHF-UHF but I could be mistaken.

[karldotcom]

DORNER MANHUNT: Man describes encounter with suspect | Local News | PE.com - Press-Enterprise

Anyone know what type of database this guy has access to? Sounds like he has access to the want list?

[K6CDO]

Originally Posted by techman210

Correct. Don't expect Sheriffs personnel to be technologists. Many times I have heard them switching talkgroups in the same trunking system because the previous talkgroup "has coverage problems".

With the interference that the users of many southern California systems are experiencing from low-level cell sites, "switching talkgroups because the previous talkgroup has coverage problems" is (in some cases) a true statement.

A component of the SmartNet protocol will cause various talkgroups to 'prefer' certain RF channels. So the user experiencing a condition of one talkgroup working at an intersection while others do not (or work 'poorly') is a known condition to system operators.

[spectr17]

Originally Posted by nbdyspclk

SB 8 has switched all traffic other than ancillary dispatch to Homeland Security provided radios in use by I.C.E. out of San Diego,also have switched to milcoms out of march AF base,CHP has also switched to TAC12(new)running side by side with Inland Dispatch

I'm still hearing sensitive traffic on 8-1 on my personal scanner as of 5pm today. Guess the trackers didn't get the memo.

I took the 8-1 and 8-2 feed off for good reason, if you can't figure out any scenarios where it could help the suspect I surely can't help explain why then.

[jlanfn]

Originally Posted by nbdyspclk

CHP has also switched to TAC12(new)running side by side with Inland Dispatch

I don't see a CHP channel by that name in the database. What is the frequency, PL, etc?

Originally Posted by nbdyspclk

SB 8 has switched all traffic other than ancillary dispatch to Homeland Security provided radios in use by I.C.E. out of San Diego

In my opinion the manhunt traffic never should have stayed on 8-Mtn-1. It's not a good place to go for outside agency interoperability and the tactical traffic ties up a primary dispatch channel.

[Rick1959]

Originally Posted by spectr17

I'm still hearing sensitive traffic on 8-1 on my personal scanner as of 5pm today. Guess the trackers didn't get the memo.

I took the 8-1 and 8-2 feed off for good reason, if you can't figure out any scenarios where it could help the suspect I surely can't help explain why then.

If you want to believe this guy is monitoring LEO agencies via this web site, that's fine. I appreciate the fact that you provided a feed, thank you.

[troshs]

Well, from what I heard, the dude was in the NAVY and he claims to be this high and mightly survivalist. I'm sure he thought of the fact that he could be traced by a cell phone. On a separate note, if any of you have Twitter, follow @Venice311. She is huge on listening to her scanner and constantly tweets incidents in LA (she lives near Venice Beach). Aside from the major things that happen, there are some that are pretty amusing that she posts. I'm listening to the LAPD feed right now but can't follow all that well because I'm not used to how fast they talk sometimes. I pick out context clues mostly. I'm sure when they get him or if something major happens regarding we will hear about it. I'm almost sorry I can't stay up all night with it running.
Its really a crazy situation though, hes got training AND he knows LAPD's tactics.

[nbdyspclk]

anybody stop to think maybe he has a scanner already.i would have one as part of MY bugout kit?just saying

[RadioDaze]

Originally Posted by nbdyspclk

anybody stop to think maybe he has a scanner already.i would have one as part of MY bugout kit?just saying

I did, which is why I made this observation several pages back: "Indications are that he's familiar with the area, which means he's probably equipped to monitor the local LE directly."

[MtnBiker2005]

Originally Posted by karldotcom

DORNER MANHUNT: Man describes encounter with suspect | Local News | PE.com - Press-Enterprise

Anyone know what type of database this guy has access to? Sounds like he has access to the want list?

The above guy in the story sounds like he is using license plate camera reader in his vehicle.
Many Repo companies using it now.
"License plate recognition (LPR) cameras on all vehicles in our fleet." (DRN link on the left side of this SD Repo page autorecovery.com )
Could be this system. https://www.digitalrecognition.net/

[cj5]

Originally Posted by troshs

Well, from what I heard, the dude was in the NAVY and he claims to be this high and mightly survivalist....hes got training AND he knows LAPD's tactics.

LA Times reported he was into hunting and outdoors sports, and being trained military and police. This guy has probably learned a lot about how the LAPD and regional departments operate. Besides he was dismissed 4 years ago. That's a lot of time to plot and plan a grand scheme.

Based on my scanning experiences, these type of manhunts usually don't go this long. Either that or the San Bernardino authorities were completely under-resourced and under-prepared for a situation like this. I think it was last summer when I guy fled off the toll roads into the Cleveland NF. CHP lost him, OC Sheriff picked him up, lost him, and then caught him within a few hours. I have a notion that Dorner has evaded them completely. Have there been any updates or leads on his whereabouts, outside of just people that match his description?

Best way to escape L.A.? Escape L.A.

[spectr17]

Originally Posted by Rick1959

If you want to believe this guy is monitoring LEO agencies via this web site, that's fine. I appreciate the fact that you provided a feed, thank you.

Let's just say I was a wires n pliers type in SF for a few years and know it's best not to assume or misjudge an enemies capabilities. I have friends on the mtn tonight and I really don't want to give ANY edge to the suspect. Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

[karldotcom]

LAPD and LASD are currently doing a large search on the East Bank of the LA River. LASD is searching the MTA Red Line Storage Yards, and LAPD is clearing stored empty Amtrak trains from 6th to 8th Streets. Apparently someone spotted a black male with a large duffel bag board one of the stored trains.... Officers with UPRs are up on the bridges over the LA River providing cover.....

Is it anything? Sadly, there are large number of males with duffel bags that live in or adjacent to the LA River.....

LASD also had a large response to a sighting of a possible suspect in a Prius in Santa Clarita. Two off-duty deputies called it in driving down from the Antelope Valley. A lot of guns being pointed in a lot of directions. They quickly put out a "definitely Code 4"

[dupree617]

Originally Posted by spectr17

Let's just say I was a wires n pliers type in SF for a few years and know it's best not to assume or misjudge an enemies capabilities. I have friends on the mtn tonight and I really don't want to give ANY edge to the suspect. Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Even though I not know any of you wonderful people. I do want to show support for his decision to turn off the link to the 8-1 and 8-2 TG's. In the end we not know what he's got and what he doesn't. Just my two cents. Thank you.

Mike Dupree

[Code20Photog]

Originally Posted by cj5

Because it isn't MY job. The vehicle was known, and the plates were provided. Don't make excuses!

Excuses? You're trying to find ONE person in a geographical area that stretches from San Diego to Los Angeles to Las Vegas. The truck was found burned only about 12 hours after he was named as the suspect. 12 hours that were dark, with limited resources.

This guy had been planning this for months. He cancelled his cell phone, his credit cards, anything that could leave an electronic footprint back in July. He's could be using a stolen identity, and if he's anywhere near Southern California, he's not staying at the Hilton.

How long did it take to catch Whitey Bulger? 20 years?

[Spitfire8520]

There's so many assumptions in this thread about everything...I'd let the locals in the area decide on what they should/should not feed as it is their Officers. For all we know, he didn't think about getting a radio or has no idea how to actually program a radio or scanner. Hell, thousands of people on this forum who can't even spell properly, let alone be left with figuring out how to program a scanner for an analog trunked system with software that does it for them. And boy, that's before thinking of stuff like antennas, the multiple radio bands, and the hundreds of different public safety trunked systems.

As said before, tactical traffic should have never been on the primary dispatch channel on a trunked system to begin with, especially with the number of agencies involved in this search and even federal involvement. It's not like manhunt suddenly appeared out of nowhere on the main dispatch and couldn't be moved in the beginning. Whoever made that decision ended bringing down a possible legitimate feed that may (or may not) have operated within ToS.

[Confuzzled]

Originally Posted by karldotcom

LAPD and LASD are currently doing a large search on the East Bank of the LA River. LASD is searching the MTA Red Line Storage Yards, and LAPD is clearing stored empty Amtrak trains from 6th to 8th Streets. Apparently someone spotted a black male with a large duffel bag board one of the stored trains.... Officers with UPRs are up on the bridges over the LA River providing cover.....

Is it anything? Sadly, there are large number of males with duffel bags that live in or adjacent to the LA River.....

And if they come across one who maybe is hearing impaired or mentally disabled or just plain ornery like some homeless guys are, do you think they'll try to find out who he is before they call the coroner?

[Confuzzled]

Originally Posted by cj5

Based on my scanning experiences, these type of manhunts usually don't go this long.

There was one up in Washington not too long ago that went on for a while with a National Park Ranger killed. That guy later whacked himself. I'm not sure this one will.