New CHP frequency assignments? Cutover date?

[1979lee]

chp brown in bakersfield, pl now 127.3

[markclark]

CHP Indio is testing on Blue -2 Border East, 44.98Mhz, PL 146.2

[markclark]

CHP is now testing on Blue -2 Border West, 39.24 Mhz, PL 136.5. 9:28 AM.

[markclark]

CHP Border Blue West

CHP was testing on Blue -2 Border West, 39.24 Mhz, PL 136.5. 9:28 AM. There is mention of testing on several peaks. Perhaps the new Border West covers the coast and Border East covers inland areas. All the peaks were in Orange county which means the changeover for that area is coming. Supposedly, only the PL's will change and possibly the new Blue Channel will be added.

Hilltops tested:

Yorba Linda
Puente Hills (Nike Site/La Habra Peak?)
Bolero Peak
Ortega Peak (San Juan Capistrano)
Loma Ridge
Signal Peak

[1979lee]

chp bakersfield Brown traffic being heard on 45.500 , not much from dispatch, more the officers. seems low powered as well.

[scottyhetzel]

Originally Posted by markclark

CHP Border Blue West

CHP was testing on Blue -2 Border West, 39.24 Mhz, PL 136.5. 9:28 AM. There is mention of testing on several peaks. Perhaps the new Border West covers the coast and Border East covers inland areas. All the peaks were in Orange county which means the changeover for that area is coming. Supposedly, only the PL's will change and possibly the new Blue Channel will be added.

Hilltops tested:

Yorba Linda
Puente Hills (Nike Site/La Habra Peak?)
Bolero Peak
Ortega Peak (San Juan Capistrano)
Loma Ridge
Signal Peak

Nike site is near the rio Honda college in Whittier.. LASD temple has a site there... There are tree towers there. Is on the south east corner of the 605 freeway and the 60 freeway. FYI

[Exsmokey]

This morning I heard "DC 603" speaking with Bishop Dispatch on Gold and testing Gold 2. This is the first indication over here that CHPERS is coming. I've had Gold 2 and the new 700 MHz extender frequencies programmed for at least a year now. I kept hearing them reference "on local" several times, a term I've not heard yet. The only electronic sites referenced were Silver, Cottonwood and Rogers. I would guess they are going to switch the Inyo County or more properly the Bishop Area Office units first and then the Bridgeport Area Office units next.

There is a McDonalds down the street from my house about a hundred yards. CHP officers like to "grab a cup" there. I should be able to hear the new extenders from my house and I haven't yet. I have the VHF extender frequency locked out as the intermittent nature of the extenders is quite annoying. It would not surprise me if the old extenders are still in use. I might be wrong, but I'm assuming that the changeover to the new frequencies coincides with the changeover to the new extenders. The new extenders can't work on the old radios, however, new mobiles could have already been installed and when the change to Gold 2 occurs the officer would just switch to it.

The next time I'm in Bishop I should park at the area office and see if they have a 700 MHz base station up and running. I thought it would be quite awhile before the changes would occur here as Bishop dispatch was the last or second to last dispatch center using the old statewide Blue for its primary channel. That seemed to indicate the level of priority this dispatch center had in the grand scheme of things.

[KMA367]

Originally Posted by Exsmokey

It would not surprise me if the old extenders are still in use. I might be wrong, but I'm assuming that the changeover to the new frequencies coincides with the changeover to the new extenders. The new extenders can't work on the old radios, however, new mobiles could have already been installed and when the change to Gold 2 occurs the officer would just switch to it.

The next time I'm in Bishop I should park at the area office and see if they have a 700 MHz base station up and running. I thought it would be quite awhile before the changes would occur here as Bishop dispatch was the last or second to last dispatch center using the old statewide Blue for its primary channel. That seemed to indicate the level of priority this dispatch center had in the grand scheme of things.

Changes with CHPERS definitely seem to be changing with all deliberate hesitation, Exsmokey. In Northern Division, the first 700 usage was heard and reported in Weaverville (Redding Dispatch) on May 12 - CHP 700 MHz Extenders with the Red. A couple weeks later on June 2 in McKinleyville (Humboldt Dispatch) - I picked up Green's 700 pair - CHP 700 MHz Extenders.

After that there was no sign of any new low band frequencies up here until October 11th and 12th, New CHP frequency assignments? Cutover date?. And the one-site-only transmitting for both haven't changed since then, and nobody has reported hearing any mobiles transmitting on the corresponding low-band uplinks.

For what it's worth.

[LBH]

Originally Posted by Exsmokey

I've had Gold 2 and the new 700 MHz extender frequencies programmed for at least a year now.

There is a McDonalds down the street from my house about a hundred yards. CHP officers like to "grab a cup" there. I should be able to hear the new extenders from my house and I haven't yet.

I was in Bishop at the end of September installing a P25 system and saw a CHP officer inside the Denny's with an E.F. Johnson 700 MHz portable on his hip.

[Exsmokey]

Originally Posted by LBH

I was in Bishop at the end of September installing a P25 system and saw a CHP officer inside the Denny's with an E.F. Johnson 700 MHz portable on his hip.

I haven't paid close enough attention to the changes occurring in other parts of the state to notice if the 700 MHz extenders are installed before the change of low band frequencies occurs. I read somewhere that new radios are not being installed in existing vehicles, only in replacement vehicles.

The bigger news in your post is mentioning the installation of a P25 system in Inyo County. What system is it? I'm fully prepared for this, however, the tow companies, the businesses that keep scanners on all day and the locals who have only purchased on scanner their entire lives are going to be a bit shocked. I haven't noticed any new FCC filings for Inyo and Mono Counties that would indicate someone is running P25. I'm very curious about this.

[mikkut]

Originally Posted by Exsmokey

The bigger news in your post is mentioning the installation of a P25 system in Inyo County. What system is it? I'm fully prepared for this, however, the tow companies, the businesses that keep scanners on all day and the locals who have only purchased on scanner their entire lives are going to be a bit shocked. I haven't noticed any new FCC filings for Inyo and Mono Counties that would indicate someone is running P25. I'm very curious about this.

I'm curious too .... LBH, please divulge : )

[LBH]

Originally Posted by Exsmokey

The bigger news in your post is mentioning the installation of a P25 system in Inyo County. What system is it?

Originally Posted by mikkut

I'm curious too .... LBH, please divulge : )

Sorry guys, hijacking threads is not allowed.

[inigo88]

Let's leave LBH alone and stick to the subject matter of this thread: The current state of upgrades to CHP's radio system.

I drove from the SF Bay Area to San Diego several weeks ago and observed the following:

* CHP Buttonwillow/Fort Tejon in Central is still using Turquoise (42.60). Turquoise had previously been removed and replaced with TRQ2 (39.12) in the database, however I personally confirmed that units were still on TRQ. I added it back until the official changeover occurs.

* I can also confirm 1979lee's comment that the Bakersfield Office "Brown" traffic is being simulcasted on 45.50 MHz 127.3 PL, although in my case I heard mostly simulcast of the dispatcher. Anyone know the name of this channel? I'm assuming it's going to be "Brown 2."

* Tactical channels were updated to match info found in the CHPERS documents (along with FCC licenses for the applicable mountaintop transmit sites). From all the evidence I've seen over the years, I haven't found a single shred of proof that the "Lime Tactical" channels are accurate or were ever even really programmed into the CHP's radios. However Coastal division was supposed to get a secondary channel called "Coastal Lime," which suggests there may be some merit to them. If anyone has any more info on the CHP Tacs or "Lime" channels I'd be interested to see. Until then, the 'Lime Tac' category will remain in the db in the interest of completeness.

[markclark]

inigo88:

The new Brown is Brown-2, for now; both the Turquoise and the Brown are simulcasting. Coastal Lime is licensed to Santa Ynez Peak and shows a control point of of SLO. The Lime is also used by Riverside Public Utilities with the same PL tone as the future CHP Coastal Lime.

I sent an update of the Southern Division Tac channels and callsigns. I've never heard any channel in Southern California referred to as Lime-XX either. We use Tac channels in Southern Division-- Tac 1-6; I've never heard any traffic on Tac 7 or 8. 45.02 is now Southern Orange. The Gold-2, Yellow-2, etc. channel designation was dropped in Southern Division within minutes of the switchover; channels are simply referred to by color.

I've never heard any traffic on the Peach, 39.34.

Hope this helps.

[gmclam]

Originally Posted by inigo88

From all the evidence I've seen over the years, I haven't found a single shred of proof that the "Lime Tactical" channels are accurate or were ever even really programmed into the CHP's radios.

Originally Posted by markclark

We use Tac channels in Southern Division-- Tac 1-6; I've never heard any traffic on Tac 7 or 8.

I scan CHP heavily which includes these channels. I will hear traffic on them, but people rarely ID the channel. I don't recall ever hearing someone say "go to Lime..." but I have heard "go to TAC..". Of course, that could be just about anywhere, depending on location.

Originally Posted by markclark

I've never heard any traffic on the Peach, 39.34.

I'll second that comment.

[inigo88]

Originally Posted by markclark

Hope this helps.

Absolutely! Thanks a bunch! Have you heard Tac 1 since that freq became Orange 2?

[markclark]

Tac-1 Southern Division is 39.19Mhz on Mirador Reservoir in Pasadena. Orange is 45.02Mhz. Baldwin Park.

[inigo88]

Originally Posted by markclark

Tac-1 Southern Division is 39.19Mhz on Mirador Reservoir in Pasadena. Orange is 45.02Mhz. Baldwin Park.

Got it. Was that a recent change since they moved 45.02 to Orange? Regarding Tac 6, it looks like they have an additional repeater in Border Division in San Ysidro (WPTR558, per the CHPERS 2012 Legislative Report and New Freq Profiles xls). This repeater also uses 136.5 PL, in addition to the one at Rolling Hills.

[carlt]

Please clarify 39.19Mhz. I don't see any other channels that end with an odd number.

[Mike_G_D]

Originally Posted by carlt

Please clarify 39.19Mhz. I don't see any other channels that end with an odd number.

Good point! VHF-Low band channel separation in the US is 20KHz and that frequency falls in between the two allocated channels of 39.18MHz and 39.2MHz.

-Mike