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FCC going after CBer's
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05-14-2009, 12:15 PM
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Yeah!!!!
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05-14-2009, 02:58 PM
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Nice!!!!!!
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05-14-2009, 03:50 PM
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Seems to be a bit personal there dont ya think? lol NIce!! FCC is laying down the hammer!
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05-15-2009, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by C138Kaysone
Seems to be a bit personal there dont ya think?
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They were labelled as "Right-Wing Political Extremeists" by Janet Napolitano and the DHS in their recently released and then just recently pulled domestic terrorist document.
Using the rf spectrum to spew their conservative political beliefs.  This is the first step in re-implementing the "fairness doctrine"
They are lucky that Eric Holder didn't send the ATF, FBI and who knows what other 3 letter agencies in to take them out...
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05-15-2009, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by RagnarD
They were labelled as "Right-Wing Political Extremeists" by Janet Napolitano and the DHS in their recently released and then just recently pulled domestic terrorist document.
Using the rf spectrum to spew their conservative political beliefs. This is the first step in re-implementing the "fairness doctrine"
They are lucky that Eric Holder didn't send the ATF, FBI and who knows what other 3 letter agencies in to take them out...
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Did I miss something? 
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05-15-2009, 06:55 AM
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No sir, you didn't miss a thing. Just trying to be silly. I find it laughable the FCC feels a need to waste my tax dollars chasing such offenders.
I have been a licensed radio amateur for almost 35 years and what these guys are doing in my opinion is no different than what has happened to the amateur bands, HF in particular. UHF and VHF have been like CB for a long time.
No need for anyone to get on their high horse about anything. I'll bet everyone on this forum that owns a piece of RF gear with a microphone has "bootlegged" at one time or another.
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05-15-2009, 07:51 AM
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I am guessing that they were responding to complaints.
Do you think the FCC should ignore complaints supported with sufficient information to justify a letter such as these being sent out?
How do you want the FCC to handle a complaint that you might submit?
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05-15-2009, 08:08 AM
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Sounds more like someone is nervous for their job. Notice that the letter was CC'd to the field office in Detroit. Same thing happened in the late 80's. I recieved a warning letter for not id'ing my commercial station(which I was, I had a Zetron 38 panel in it). The station was in NYC and the FCC inspector was in Maine? I do know they have remote capability at a local Army base(formerly Fort Totten). So I called the guy in Maine, he said he was doing a courtesy inspection in the NYC area. I asked him what about the NYC inspector doing the inspection, for which I got no repsonse. I then asked him how long he monitored the frequency in question, his response was a few minuits. At which time I informed him, though he should have known that you only have to ID every 15 min. He thanked me for my response and hung up. I guess it is too quiet in Maine and Detroit, so why not troll in Dayton, radio capital of the US. Now in no way am I condoning the misuse of radio equipment, but I agree it would be better time spent going after those who are really causing harm to the radio spectrum. Another thought was that local hams were complaining, did the legwork for the FCC got the name and addresses. To me it looks like the FCC really didn't have to work too hard.
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05-15-2009, 08:55 AM
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They usually do things like this in response to interference complaints.
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05-15-2009, 09:04 AM
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Seems like Dayton is a hot bed, just prior to Hamvention.
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05-15-2009, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Don_Burke
They usually do things like this in response to interference complaints.
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I'm well aware of this thank you, but my added comment was in regards to the MANY on this forum that seem to think that the FCC will NEVER catch any of those "illegal" radios/users or who say it is a big wast of time for the FCC to do such things...
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05-15-2009, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by RagnarD
I'll bet everyone on this forum that owns a piece of RF gear with a microphone has "bootlegged" at one time or another.
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That'd be one bet that you wouldn't win...
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05-15-2009, 10:46 AM
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Seems like Dayton is a hot bed, just prior to Hamvention.
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Kind of like cleaning house before all the guest arrive, huh? 
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05-15-2009, 10:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RagnarD
They were labelled as "Right-Wing Political Extremeists" by Janet Napolitano and the DHS in their recently released and then just recently pulled domestic terrorist document.
Using the rf spectrum to spew their conservative political beliefs. This is the first step in re-implementing the "fairness doctrine"
They are lucky that Eric Holder didn't send the ATF, FBI and who knows what other 3 letter agencies in to take them out...
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That would be something big if the ATF, FBI went in, would be more surprising if the NSA and CIA went in.. now thats going to be a ball game.
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05-15-2009, 04:32 PM
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N_Jay I wouldn't waste my time reporting someone to the FCC. Life is too short to go and get in someone elses illegal activities. I have enough of my own troubles to deal with.
I live in a community with CC&R's that prohibit outside antennas and stealth horizonatlly polarized antennas are not typically the weapon of choice of a bootlegger.
There's also a chance they will try to tune one of those cans inside of that 'heater" and get knocked across the room a few times (or worse) and they will leave it alone. I've seen more than one screwdriver welded to the chassis of an amplifier. I have also seen flourescent light bulbs flicker that were held above linear amplifer chassis that the covers were removed from. Someone's user name here on RR is "RFBurns" and I'll bet they can speak from experience.
I think if someone would spend some time with them and teach them about the importance of grounding and working your gear with the covers on it most of the reasons for complaints would go away. IOW, be an elmer, not a dick.
Besides, these days, it's so easy to get an amateur ticket why bother when you can "see how many pounds you are putting on someones meter" as you work them through your favorite 2 meter repeater. Granted, I dont know what peak envelope power is for today's no-code general class on HF but if you want to go QRO I'm sure you can!
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05-15-2009, 04:38 PM
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The fact that you would not care to file a complain is irrelevant to my post.
Still glad they are following through.
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05-21-2009, 08:59 PM
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The FCC needs to go after those F*uchers in Omaha. Those morons really put out the watts on Channel 6.
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I wasn't planning to post here being a duplicate thread but THIS has come up once again:
"UHF and VHF have been like CB for a long time."
Comments like this including mine are often misconstrued to infer that the bands below 10M are populated with lids (rogue operators) and some have taken offense. I can't speak for RagnarD but to clarify the position of myself and others that refer to "2M CB" we are NOT saying these bands in any way compare to what 11M CB has become! What we mean is it is laid back, informal, local and regional chit-chat much like what CB USED to be and what it SHOULD be. I go back a long way and remember the days when CB was great and it was a pleasure to operate informally as opposed to the more formally structured operation on the HF Amateur bands.
Unfortunately negative remarks and outright criticism of the reference seem to come from the new kids on the block who have no idea of what CB was like in the old days, I forgive them for their ignorance. I sincerely hope this enlightenment helps, the cure for ignorance is knowledge and I hope you know better now.
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