DTRS Unknowns

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jimmnn

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I have those as logged but still unidentified.

9130
9131
9146
9147
9149


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Wasn't able to save the 4968, restarted the Pro96Com program has this in my folder for the 11714.

11714,50,"T: 105 DT: 3/7/13@21:25",1362716714,"03/07/2013 @ 21:25",1362716714,"03/07/2013 @ 21:25","#000000","#000000","N",0
 

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Realizing that I cannot listen to all of my scanners 24x7 I have dedicated a few of them Pro96Com logging. Since the beginning of the year I have logged the following for DTRS:
  • 6.3 Million Affiliations/Grants
  • 1,700 Talkgroups (unique)
  • 27,000 RadioIDs (unique)
  • 10 Different Metro Sites

To better keep track of all my Pro96Com logs I have been building a web application/website. I still have a few development things to finish up but hope to open it up to a few beta testers/systems later this month. Here is a preview of what I have so far:

Logging Summary Page
  • This is the "home page" for each system.
  • I have a few other reports that are still in development.


Talkgroups Logged Within the Last 7-Days
  • Clicking on a TalkgroupID will take you to the Talkgroup Summary Page.
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Talkgroup Summary Page
  • Clicking on the "Associated Radios" will give you a list of all RadioIDs that have had at least one grant/affiliation with this talkgroup.
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Associated Radios
  • Clicking on the "Associated Radios" from the Talkgroup Summary Page will bring you to this.
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  • Clicking on each of the RadioIDs above will bring you to the Radio Summary Pages:
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Associated Talkgroups
  • This is a list of talkgroups that are associated by RadioIDs (i.e. RadioID 30776 has a voice grant/affiliation with TG 4069 and 9468).
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To keep this post tied to the subject I think we can say that TgID 9468 has some sort of EMS/Medical use in Larimer County.

If anyone is interested in beta-testing please send me a PM.
 

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Here is my list of unknowns:
Unknown_Talkgroups.png
 

jimmnn

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Wow Steve, your unknown list is short, I will re-post mine as an attachment but might be able to help a little.

1218 DOC
2805 Dept of Revenue - Pot
2992 Enc
4451 Pueblo FD -enc-
8378 DEA
8697 Archuleta County
8889 Grand County
8895 Grand County

10040-10099 I think we've agreed are all RTD unknowns, we just need some help.

11714 Rio Blanco County

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Anyone have ID's for any of these:

276
1233
1534
2993
8382
8853
9550
11669
11850
 

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276 - Unknown but probably Bent County
1233 - DEA Channel 1 "Comm Center"
1533 - JCSO encrypted
1534 - JCSO encrypted
2993 - Unknown but sounds enc also
8377 - Unknown
8382 - Unknown, poss DEA western slope
8383 - Unknown
8853 - Eagle County radios but unknown use
9550 - Boulder County School Security
11669 - Routt County radios but unknown use
11850 - I had listed as Moffat County Travel but maybe that's wrong

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276 Is natural gas people who shut off service when payment is not paid. They ID as "base". I don't know why they would want to listen to it when they are in Denver, but they do. Maybe they don't have a travel channel.

11850 I've heard in Moffat Co, but so far not in Denver. MCSO usually travels on CSP Statewide. Not sure what TMH travels on when they go to St. Mary's. The Fire Chief use to stay on the Craig Fire TG when he went to see his relatives in Littleton.
 

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Here are some stats for these unknowns from the beta version of the pro96com log analysis site I have been working on:

1533
  • 35 RIDs have been seen on this TGID
  • Of these RIDs:
    • 24 have been seen on TG 1534
    • 21 have been seen on TGID 1249
    • 12 have been seen on TGID 1401 - Jeffco SO Dispatch
    • 5 have been seen on TGID 107
    • 9 have been seen on 2290- Blue SW

1534
  • Pretty much the same as 1533

2992 & 2993
  • I have only logged RIDs 880001 thru 880039 on these two Talkgroups.
  • Besides 2992, 2993, and MAC talkgroups these IDs have not been seen on any other TGID (as someone mentioned earlier these could possibly be Denver PD radios for users who doing surveillance ops outside of the EDACS coverage area).
  • Sometimes these RIDs have shown up on the MAC talkgroups. I am going to setup RID alerts in my PSR-800 and see if I can figure out who uses these TGs the next time they xmit on one of the MACs.
  • I have not captured any affiliations for 2993. 2992 has been seen on the following sites:
    • Squaw (16x)
    • Lookout (2x)
    • I have not seen any site denials (yet)

8377
  • I caught an affiliation on this TG on 3/11
  • The affiliation was on Chevron
  • The RID that affiliated was 131352
    • This RID is commonly seen on TGID 1241

8382
  • I have seen 13 RIDs used on this TGID. RIDs seen (sorted by voice/affiliations):
    • 131028 (4x), commonly seen on 1241
    • 129359 (4x) - commonly seen on 1237
    • 131061 (2x) - commonly seen on 1245
    • 131109 (2x) - commonly seen on 1245,1240
    • 131032 (2x) - commonly seen on 1241,1245
    • RIDs only seen once: 103682,131121,131069,131065,131039,129346,131089,131104

8383
  • I have not logged any affiliations for this TGID
  • I have only seen one RID use this TGID: 244417
    • This RID was seen once on TGID 8089-ConejosCoSO on 12/22
    • This RID was also seen on TGID 8112-CSP Troop 5B on 3/13

9147,9148,9149
  • I believe all of these TGs are related. I have seen the following RIDs:
    • 307811 (9147-1X, 9148-9X)
    • 307818 (9148-5x)
    • 307911 (9147-1X)
    • 307917 (9148-7x, 9149-3x)
    • 307921 (9149-9x)
  • Affiliations:
    • 9147 - Buckhorn (1x)
    • 9148 - Buckhorn (4x)
    • 9149 - Buckhorn (12x)
    • I have not seen these TGIDs on any other site

11669
  • Only seen on Lookout, last affiliation 3/1, grant 3/1
  • RIDs seen (sorted by voice/affiliations):
    • 270878 (6)
    • 270857 (1)
    • 270926 (1)
  • I have not seen any of these RIDs on any other TGID

12026
  • Only seen on Lookout, last affiliation 3/13, grant 2/28
  • RIDs seen: 244846, 244819, 244897, 244926, 244924
  • Possibly CDOT

12028
  • Seen on Lookout/Thorodin, last affiliation 3/13, no voice grants logged.
  • RIDs seen: 244924 (most activity for this RID seems to be on 2498- CDOT 1P, 8025- CDOT 3J
  • Most likely CDOT
 

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A few more RTD talkgroups I have possibly identified:
10040
  • Possibly RTD Transit Security
  • Heard someone calling for "2-Robert-11" (unit designator for transit security)

10043
  • RTD Personel Relays
  • Chatter requesting relays from Point A to Point B / Taking someone to their car

10047
  • Bus maintenance requests

10057
  • RTD Buses
  • Heard the following unit designators: "RTD BUS DISPATCH", "BUS 2073" "BUS 9204", "BUS 2028", "BUS 2025"

10060
  • RTD Buses
  • Heard "At the Broomfield Park & Ride", "Coming out of Boulder Transit Center", "He is at Baseline right now".
  • I believe this is used in the North Metro / Boulder areas

10080
  • Sounded like Light Rail Maintenance
  • Heard "We are bypassing stations", "Go ahead and pull in behind us, we are on the 8th rail track", "You should have a regular in-service train right behind you".

10082
  • Light Rail - unknown use
  • Heard "Train 30 to Elati Yard"

I have a few recordings to go through and will post more updates tomorrow.
 

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Great work Steve! Last year I was contemplating creating a very similar type of database website that would allow the uploading of Pro96Com logs. However, I never found the time to do it.
 

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RTD Talkgroups Identified

I have identified and submitted the following RTD Talkgroups:
10043
  • RTD Bus Scheduling

10044
  • Bus Courtesy Requests
    (Drivers with passenger requests (Request another bus to wait, asking how a passenger can get from point A to B)

10047
  • RTD Bus Mechanics


10057
  • RTD Bus Route Dispatch - Denver Metro

10060
  • RTD BTC (Boulder Transit Center)

10080
  • RTD Light Rail Maintenance Ch-2

10082
  • Light Rail Test Runs
    (Testing on the new West Line)
 

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Here is an updated list of my unknowns:

156 - Some sort of hospital / ems use
157 - Some sort of hospital / ems use
232 - RIDs seen: 908419, 908417 (also seen on Metcom, Jeffco Fire TGs, Fairmount)
233 - RID seen: 143445
455 - RID seen: 171055
517 - Elbert County?
522 - Elbert County?
793 - RID 905952 (also seen on Red SW, Metcom)
1962 - Keenesburg Schools?
2310 - CDOT?
2312 - CDOT?
2314 - CDOT?
2316 - CDOT?
2806 - Revenue / MMJ?
2807 - Revenue / MMJ?
2992 - Denver?
2993 - Denver?
2994 - Arapahoe LE?
2995 - Arapahoe LE?
3079 - Arapahoe LE?
4425 - RIDs seen: 483105,482751,483106
4431 - RIDs seen: 483040,483050
4435 - RID seen 482734
4453 - Some sort of hospital / ems use
4454 - Some sort of hospital / ems use
8285 - RID Seen 263080
8383 - Used in SW Colorado
8716 - State Parks or Bureau of Land Management
8812 - CSP?
8894 - Grand County?
9147 - (related to 9148 & 9149)
9148 - (related to 9147 & 9149)
9149 - (related to 9147 & 9148)
9252
9468 - Larimer EMS (unknown use)
9538 - Longmont?
9544 - ENC (Longmont?)
9546 - (Boulder Schools or Clear Creek MAC)
9547
9554
10000- SOC Radio Techs?
10003 (RID 139753)
10045 - RTD
10046 - RTD
10048 - RTD
10050 - RTD
10052 - RTD
10059 - RTD
10061 - RTD
10062 - RTD
10063 - RTD
10064 - RTD
10065 - RTD
10066 - RTD
10067 - RTD
10068 - RTD
10069 - RTD
10071 - RTD
10074 - RTD
10075 - RTD
10077 - RTD
10081 - RTD
10084 - RTD
10086 - RTD
10099 - RTD
11669 - RIDs seen: 270878,270857,270926
11714 - RID seen: 274391
12026 - CDOT?
12027 - CDOT?
12028 - CDOT?

I have also heard that CSP will be renaming 10 talkgroups due to the recent district change... no idea which ones yet. Also, we should be seeing two new county MAC talkgroups popup at some point for Clear Creek and Gilpin Counties.
 
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