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Old 09-21-2018, 8:48 PM
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Question What's up with Longmont PD

Has Longmont PD changed their TG for primary dispatch? I have not heard a peep out of them for over 12 hours, even on my new sds 100. Any info would be appreciated.

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Old 09-22-2018, 6:33 PM
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Lots of activity on TG 9516 TAC 3 ENC and 9517 Clearance ENC.

It appears they are not using their in the clear dispatch TG 9515. 156.210 analog simulcast is also silent.
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Old 09-22-2018, 8:43 PM
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Dispatch announced that were "moving all traffic for the rest of the evening to the Data channel" at 02:15 on Friday, September 21st. Kind of looks like the move was a little bit more long term than just the rest of the evening.

It does not look very promising seeing that normal operations has not resumed in more than 40 hours.
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Old 09-29-2018, 9:27 AM
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Any additional information as to whether this is a technical issue or operational policy?
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I have not heard anything new except rumors of It being a "temp. situation" and unknown when it will be back to normal. That is why I am trying to get in contact with NOGTG to program my $2000 worth of bricks to include State Patrol and utilities.

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They're calling it a Pilot Project. I have my doubts it will return in the clear.

Longmont police scanners go silent for unannounced "pilot project" - Boulder Daily Camera
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I find it ironic that the pilot project was created after the media caught Longmont PD performing warrantless searches.
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Old 10-11-2018, 4:27 PM
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This story has so many holes in it, it's not even funny. Like the members have said on this website, they are trying to cover things up. Nothing to support their generalizations. The best statement was that they said Loveland PD was encrypted. I just got the scoop from the Comm. Director. No they are in the clear. I just lost all respect for the agency and their transparency to the citizens of Longmont. My family has lived here for over 100 years and now I'm feeling like a move out of here. By the way---Curt please give a call.
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I find it ironic that the pilot project was created after the media caught Longmont PD performing warrantless searches.

Actually it was after the OIS on September 20th that Longmont went dark the following morning September 21st.


https://denver.cbslocal.com/2018/09/...mall-longmont/


The Daily Camera also has it wrong since Greeley dispatch groups are in the clear. Only the TAC groups that are ENC.
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Been monitoring the Longmont PD for close to 40 years. I just like to know what's going on around my town. Now the police have gone dark, they can spoon feed whatever they want to the people and the media. No transparency in Longmont. I intend to make a lot of noise to City Council. And the police wonder why there is so much public distrust toward them these days?

BTW, I wonder if Boulder County deputies can communicate with Longmont at all now?

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BTW, I wonder if Boulder County deputies can communicate with Longmont at all now?
Probably yes and no. Dispatch probably has some console to console ability, but as far as BSCO deputy to LPD dispatch direct? Not without some patch from their VHF to LPD's digital, which would have to be activated by somone's dispatch anyway. Or the obvious exception would be if BSCO is carrying multiband radios.

I agree with all of the above statements though, it would not surprise me if back room discussions started after the warrantless debacle, and then the OIS conveniently (for them) made it easier to justify...

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The best statement was that they said Loveland PD was encrypted. I just got the scoop from the Comm. Director. No they are in the clear.I
They aren't encrypted per say, but often do use it in certain situations. Mostly for events and SWAT operations.
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Probably yes and no. Dispatch probably has some console to console ability, but as far as BSCO deputy to LPD dispatch direct? Not without some patch from their VHF to LPD's digital, which would have to be activated by somone's dispatch anyway. Or the obvious exception would be if BSCO is carrying multiband radios.
Multiband radios is the answer. The APX 7000 & 7500 has been Boulder County's standard issue radio for several years now. They have all of Longmont's encryption keys and can talk on any of Longmont's talkgroups.

Boulder County Dispatch is also directly networked into DTRS.
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Good, last I had heard, and this was quite some time ago, BCSO didn't have the Longmont encryption keys. Good to know they can still communicate.
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"Pilot Project" is just the way they are spinning it to make it more palatable to the public, long enough for a few news cycles to pass, and the general public to forget what's happening. I bet the necessary key filling is being or has already been done on the main dispatch TG.

"Satur emphasized that the change is a pilot project that may be adjusted in the future, but at this time there is no scheduled end date." - BS that decision has already been made, sorry guys, you can kiss Longmont goodbye and add it to the growing list gone dark...
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I will be back in town mid-week and definitely plan on contacting the City Council member for my district; hopefully I can do a face-to-face with him. I sent an email to the gal that originally broke the story, but yet to hear anything back yet.

As a quick note, there was a correction in the local newspaper regarding Loveland being the big E and are in the clear for dispatch. Someone must be reading our posts. This is starting to smell like "something's rotten in Denmark's and has more holes in it like a high quality Suiss cheese.

I may just to be ornery Talley up all the quality State of the art scanners I have bought in the last 2 years and send them an invoice for them. Haha.

Later.
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