Dtrs Freqs

jeffreyinberthoud · #1 (**permalink**) 01-08-2007, 07:24 AM

Does anyone have an accurite and complete updated list of control channels and or system
transmitter sites by county? the data base is great however the locations mean little to me and Im trying to list tgs with local sites I have recieved several versions of these from other folks and the towers dont match ...........aaaauuuuhhhhhhggggggg!!!!!!!

Newbeee blues

jimmnn · #2 (**permalink**) 01-08-2007, 08:43 AM

Just ask anytime Jeffrey like you have it's really not rocket science only 2 or 3 control channels are needed to monitor most counties and some it's just one CC. The other thing to remember is the best control channel for a county is often not located without that county. Lookout Mtn or Thorodin for example.

What counties specifically are you interested in?

Jim<

jeffreyinberthoud · #3 (**permalink**) 01-08-2007, 09:06 AM

larimer

weld

boulder

broomfield

adams

jeffco

denver

arapahoe

douglas

What I would like is like three sites for each county

thanks jim

jeffreyinberthoud · #4 (**permalink**) 01-08-2007, 09:10 AM

I just need counties for the following

Site Description Freqs
101 Arapahoe Admin (Denver Metro) 868.23750*
102 Riley Peak (Denver Metro) 868.91250*
103 Silver Heights (Denver Metro) 868.52500*
104 West Creek (Denver Metro) 868.93750*
105 Mount Thorodin (Denver Metro) 868.97500*

106 Squaw Mtn (Denver Metro) 868.85000*

107 Smoky Hill (Denver Metro) 868.87500*

108 Lookout Mtn (Denver Metro) 868.77500*

109 DRDC CF (Denver Metro) 868.96250*
110 Franktown (Denver Metro) 868.25000*
111 Mines Peak 866.41250*
112 Mead 868.98750*
116 Vertamont 868.11250*
118 Lamar 868.23750*
120 DTB (Denver Metro) 868.70000*

122 Boyero 868.13750*
123 Ramah 868.28750*
124 Dakota 868.46250*
127 Mt. Carmel 867.80000*
128 Toonerville 866.88750*
129 Carlton 868.06250*
130 Bethune 867.91250*
131 Trinidad 868.61250*
132 La Veta 868.92500*
133 Firstview 868.90000*
134 Fowler 867.87500*
135 Greenhorn 868.27500*
136 Haswell 868.95000*
137 Deer Trail 867.93750*
138 Limon CF 868.21250*
139 San Carlos CF 868.98750*
140 Punkin Center 868.57500*
141 Springfield 867.06250*
142 Valley 868.26250*
143 Walsenburg 868.55000*
145 Badger Mtn 867.72500*
146 Sacramento Mtn
147 Zap (Denver Metro) 868.51250*

148 Cheyenne Mtn 868.05000*
149 Twin Mtn 866.76250*
150 Methodist Mtn 867.81250*
151 Deer Peak 867.68750*
153 Gardner 868.65000*
154 Bailey 868.18750*
155 Ft Lyon CF 868.17500*
156 Trinidad CF 868.72500*
158 ECC CF 868.96250*
164 Chevron (Denver Metro) 868.83750*

168 La Junta 867.47500*
169 Arkansas Valley CF 867.56250*
170 Auraria Campus (Denver Metro) 765.45625*
171 State Capitol (Denver Metro) 765.46875*
201 Grand Mesa 868.31250*
202 Abajo Peak, UT 868.95000*
203 Buffalo Pass 867.32500*
204 Buena Vista CF 868.77500*
205 Sunset Mesa 868.88750*
206 Cathedral Bluff 868.05000*
208 Dolores 868.51250*
209 LaMonte Peak 868.21250*
210 Storm King Mtn 868.26250*
211 Sunlight Peak 868.90000*
212 Whitewater 868.85000*
213 Castle Peak 868.15000*
214 Missionary Ridge 868.63750*
215 Bald Mtn 867.75000*
217 Calahan Mtn 868.23750*
218 North Mtn. 868.73750*
219 Oak Brush Hill 868.61250*
220 Monarch Pass 867.12500*
221 Cedar Mtn. 868.97500*
223 Smelter Mtn (Durango) 868.13750*
224 Last Dollar 868.92500*
225 Juniper Hill 868.55000*
226 Lookout-Glenwood 868.47500*
229 Raspberry Ridge 868.93750*
230 Grouse Mtn 868.80000*
234 TV Hill - Paonia 868.98750*
235 Vail Patrol HQ 868.87500*
236 Monument 868.41250*
237 Walton Peak 868.62500*
240 San Luis 867.43750*
242 Pool Table Mtn 868.33750*
243 Lees Point (John Brown) 867.83750*
244 Cupola 868.75000*
245 San Antonio Peak, NM 868.41250*
246 Gobbler's Knob 867.73750*
248 Rico 868.96250*
249 Wilson Creek 868.58750*
251 Delta 868.52500*
252 Alamosa 868.52500*
253 Coaldale 867.93750*
254 Saguache Peak 867.58750*
256 Blue Ridge 868.20000*
257 Lake Hill 868.40000*
258 Sheep's Knob 868.71250*
260 Mesa Point 867.68750*
261 Monte Vista 867.35000*
264 Table Mesa 868.76250*
313 Buckhorn Mtn 868.26250*
314 Greeley North 868.66250*
315 Point of Rocks 868.80000*
316 Fort Morgan 868.43750*
317 Akron 868.50000*
318 Reiradon 867.32500*
319 Anton 868.47500*
321 Wildhorse 867.73750*
322 Adams County Simulcast (Denver Metro) 775.28125*
775.53125*
323 Bull Mountain 867.58750*
325 New Raymer 868.62500*
326 Greeley 35th 868.31250*
327 Grover 868.17500*
328 Peetz 868.48750*
329 Pawnee 867.86250*
331 Idalia 868.70000*
339 Last Chance 867.76250*
344 Wray 867.71250*
351 Hoyt 774.79375*
352 Prospect Mtn 868.82500*
353 Phillips 868.45000*
354 Gun Barrel 774.84375*
355 Ft. Lupton 774.83125*
357 Sterling CF 867.96250*
359 Drake 867.27500*
360 PVH Fort Collins 868.73750*

361 Bald Mtn 868.63750*
362 Horsetooth Mtn 868.88750*
363 Loveland 868.76250*
420 Badger Mountain

not to much to ask ................lol

It might be a good idea if your a visitor or a newbee like me most of these names mean nothing and it is a pain to click site location for 300 sites

maybe a county column could be added to the database spread sheet

dirtfinder · #5 (**permalink**) 01-08-2007, 09:44 AM

Yahoo groups may help with what county the towers are at.

firescannerbob · #6 (**permalink**) 01-08-2007, 09:47 AM

It's really not that hard Jeffrey...
Most of those sites are appropriately named for where they're located (some can be a bit cryptic). Obviously for what you want to monitor, sites like LaVeta, Punkin Center, Monarch Pass, and Smelter Hill in Durango aren't going to be sites that you'll need.
A little detective work will guide you. Start off with Lookout, Thorodin and Cheyenne Mtn...

jimmnn · #7 (**permalink**) 01-08-2007, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtfinder

Yahoo groups may help with what county the towers are at.

Yes indeed pro96com list on yahoogroups and also remember what sectors of the state Zone 1, 2, 3 and 4 CC are in, map provided and that will begin to narrow it down for you.

Jim<

jimmnn · #8 (**permalink**) 01-08-2007, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffreyinberthoud

larimer

weld

boulder

broomfield

adams

jeffco

denver

arapahoe

douglas

What I would like is like three sites for each county

thanks jim

Weld:
Site 314 14th Avenue
Site 315 Point of Rocks
Site 316 Ft Morgan (eastern parts of county)
Site 322 North Thornton
Site 325 New Raymer (eastern parts of the county)
Site 326 35th Avenue
Site 327 Grover (NE parts of the county)
Site 355 Ft Lupton

Larimer:
Site 124 Dakota Hill
Site 313 Buckhorn
Site 323 Bull Mtn (western parts of the county)
Site 352 Prospect Mtn (western parts of the county)
Site 359 Drake
Site 360 PVH
Site 361 Bald Mtn
Site 362 Horsetooth
Site 363 East 5th Street Loveland (limited coverage)

Boulder: (Not very good DTRS coverage)
Site 105 Mt Thorodin
Site 108 Lookout Mtn
Site 112 Mead (limited coverage)
Site 322 North Thornton
Site 354 Gunbarrel
Site 362 Horsetooth

Broomfield:
Site 105 Mt Thorodin
Site 108 Lookout Mtn
Site 112 Mead
Site 322 North Thornton
Site 354 Gunbarrel

Adams:
Site 105 Mt Thorodin
Site 108 Lookout Mtn
Site 137 Deer Trail
Site 147 Zap (eastern areas)
Site 322 North Thornton
Site 339 Last Chance (extreme eastern parts of the county)
Site 351 Hunt Broadcast Tower (extreme eastern parts of the county)

Jeffco:
Site 101 Admin (limited coverage)
Site 102 Riley Peak
Site 104 West Creek
Site 105 Mt Thorodin
Site 106 Squaw Mtn
Site 108 Lookout Mtn
Site 154 Bailey

Denver = EDACS
Site 109 DRDC
Site 120 Glendale
Site 170 Auraria
Site 171 Capital

Arapahoe:
Site 101 Admin
Site 105 Mt Thorodin
Site 107 Smokey Hill
Site 108 Lookout Mtn
Site 137 Deer Trail (eastern areas)
Site 147 Zap (eastern areas)
Site 164 Chevron
Site 351 Hunt Broadcast Tower (extreme eastern parts of the county)

Douglas:
Site 103 Silver Heights
Site 104 West Creek
Site 107 Smokey Hill
Site 108 Lookout Mtn
Site 110 Franktown
Site 164 Chevron

What you need to remember Jeffrey is this is not an exact science by any means and while your results may vary it’s also fun to experiment some sites such as Mead and Admin have very limited coverage areas and some like Lookout and Thorodin have just the opposite but that is also not always good because so many radios affiliate with them and it also increases your chances of having some TG’s blocked from those sites.

There are also unique characteristics of the coverage that we continue to learn everyday such as Dakota Hill near Central City having pretty strong coverage down into the Loveland and Ft Collins areas and Mt Thorodin having good reception near Limon and things such as that which you can only find by exploring.

Remember more often not better the scanners can get confused and often tied up if they have the option of 3 or 4 strong CC’s to choose from in the same bank.

A good map of Colorado is also your friend as there are files here that have the sites plotted by there location and site number on these google maps and others.

Jim<

chris_a_rodgers · #9 (**permalink**) 01-08-2007, 01:58 PM

Thanks Jim, this helps me out a lot as well. I've had my 396 for quite awhile now. I just put a whole bunch of stuff into different systems hopeing I'd hear something. There is a huge difference in my knowledge of entering conventional frequencies to entering whole digital systems.

rfburns · #10 (**permalink**) 01-08-2007, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmnn

There are also unique characteristics of the coverage that we continue to learn everyday such as

Such as Walton Pk (Routt Co) being heard in the high areas of SE Aurora, Parker, Franktown, eastern Elbert Co etc. If the antenna at Walton has been changed, which I think it has, it may no longer be audible out there. Before the antenna changeouts occured there were a lot of sites you could hear a long way out on the horizon if you didn't have co-channel or adjacent channel interference (long directional yagis help). I think there are still some mountain tops that haven't had the antennas changed yet.

jimmnn · #11 (**permalink**) 01-08-2007, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris_a_rodgers

Thanks Jim, this helps me out a lot as well. I've had my 396 for quite awhile now. I just put a whole bunch of stuff into different systems hopeing I'd hear something. There is a huge difference in my knowledge of entering conventional frequencies to entering whole digital systems.

Always happy to entertain specific questions Chris but your sort of in a DTRS hole.

Jim<

jimmnn · #12 (**permalink**) 01-08-2007, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfburns

Such as Walton Pk (Routt Co) being heard in the high areas of SE Aurora, Parker, Franktown, eastern Elbert Co etc. If the antenna at Walton has been changed, which I think it has, it may no longer be audible out there. Before the antenna changeouts occured there were a lot of sites you could hear a long way out on the horizon if you didn't have co-channel or adjacent channel interference (long directional yagis help). I think there are still some mountain tops that haven't had the antennas changed yet.

The other thing that happens Harry is depending on how folks have there radios programmed, I always put site # and alpha tag, they think there hearing Walton Peak from Greeley for example turns out there actually hearing New Raymer CC on the same frequency.

Jim<

jfab · #13 (**permalink**) 01-08-2007, 03:27 PM

Can you enter these sites in any order, or do they have to be in a specific order? I always got caught up and frustrated because I screwed up the order that I put the freqs in, and I think that might have to do with poor reception? Thanks and sorry for the stupid questions!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmnn

Weld:
Site 314 14th Avenue
Site 315 Point of Rocks
Site 316 Ft Morgan (eastern parts of county)
Site 322 North Thornton
Site 325 New Raymer (eastern parts of the county)
Site 326 35th Avenue
Site 327 Grover (NE parts of the county)
Site 355 Ft Lupton

Larimer:
Site 124 Dakota Hill
Site 313 Buckhorn
Site 323 Bull Mtn (western parts of the county)
Site 352 Prospect Mtn (western parts of the county)
Site 359 Drake
Site 360 PVH
Site 361 Bald Mtn
Site 362 Horsetooth
Site 363 East 5th Street Loveland (limited coverage)

Boulder: (Not very good DTRS coverage)
Site 105 Mt Thorodin
Site 108 Lookout Mtn
Site 112 Mead (limited coverage)
Site 322 North Thornton
Site 354 Gunbarrel
Site 362 Horsetooth

Broomfield:
Site 105 Mt Thorodin
Site 108 Lookout Mtn
Site 112 Mead
Site 322 North Thornton
Site 354 Gunbarrel

Adams:
Site 105 Mt Thorodin
Site 108 Lookout Mtn
Site 137 Deer Trail
Site 147 Zap (eastern areas)
Site 322 North Thornton
Site 339 Last Chance (extreme eastern parts of the county)
Site 351 Hunt Broadcast Tower (extreme eastern parts of the county)

Jeffco:
Site 101 Admin (limited coverage)
Site 102 Riley Peak
Site 104 West Creek
Site 105 Mt Thorodin
Site 106 Squaw Mtn
Site 108 Lookout Mtn
Site 154 Bailey

Denver = EDACS
Site 109 DRDC
Site 120 Glendale
Site 170 Auraria
Site 171 Capital

Arapahoe:
Site 101 Admin
Site 105 Mt Thorodin
Site 107 Smokey Hill
Site 108 Lookout Mtn
Site 137 Deer Trail (eastern areas)
Site 147 Zap (eastern areas)
Site 164 Chevron
Site 351 Hunt Broadcast Tower (extreme eastern parts of the county)

Douglas:
Site 103 Silver Heights
Site 104 West Creek
Site 107 Smokey Hill
Site 108 Lookout Mtn
Site 110 Franktown
Site 164 Chevron

What you need to remember Jeffrey is this is not an exact science by any means and while your results may vary it’s also fun to experiment some sites such as Mead and Admin have very limited coverage areas and some like Lookout and Thorodin have just the opposite but that is also not always good because so many radios affiliate with them and it also increases your chances of having some TG’s blocked from those sites.

There are also unique characteristics of the coverage that we continue to learn everyday such as Dakota Hill near Central City having pretty strong coverage down into the Loveland and Ft Collins areas and Mt Thorodin having good reception near Limon and things such as that which you can only find by exploring.

Remember more often not better the scanners can get confused and often tied up if they have the option of 3 or 4 strong CC’s to choose from in the same bank.

A good map of Colorado is also your friend as there are files here that have the sites plotted by there location and site number on these google maps and others.

Jim<

chris_a_rodgers · #14 (**permalink**) 01-08-2007, 03:33 PM

I've noticed i'm in the DTRS hole. I'm in south longmont which is the lowest part and in a bowl of the surrounding terrain. Though longmont has bad reception pretty much wherever I go, I work on the 5th floor of the 1st bank building in Longmont and get horrible reception there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmnn

Always happy to entertain specific questions Chris but your sort of in a DTRS hole.

Jim<

jimmnn · #15 (**permalink**) 01-08-2007, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfab

Can you enter these sites in any order, or do they have to be in a specific order? I always got caught up and frustrated because I screwed up the order that I put the freqs in, and I think that might have to do with poor reception? Thanks and sorry for the stupid questions!

With P-25 DTRS frequencies order is not required, luckily, think you may be thinking of EDACS systems.

That's also why programming software is so helpful because it pretty much does it for you.

Jim<

jfab · #16 (**permalink**) 01-08-2007, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmnn

With P-25 DTRS frequencies order is not required, luckily, think you may be thinking of EDACS systems.

That's also why programming software is so helpful because it pretty much does it for you.

Jim<

Cool! So I'm assuming you can put 700mhz and 800mhz freqs in the same bank? I was taught how to program my first scanner(RS Pro 95)by a guy in an Aurora Radio Shack when I was like 11 or 12, and I have had problems ever since! Thank god for good people who know what they are talking about!! Thanks very much!

jimmnn · #17 (**permalink**) 01-08-2007, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfab

Cool! So I'm assuming you can put 700mhz and 800mhz freqs in the same bank? I was taught how to program my first scanner(RS Pro 95)by a guy in an Aurora Radio Shack when I was like 11 or 12, and I have had problems ever since! Thank god for good people who know what they are talking about!! Thanks very much!

What radio(s) are you trying to program?

Jim<