MOBILE, Ala. Mobile Police Radio Black Out

[MTS2000des]

Originally Posted by gtaman

One last thing. Want an easier way to listen to comms? Check your inputs most of the time they are unencrypted. Was close to a place that had encryption hopped on the input what do ya know heard everything. Not all do this only some it's worth a try. That is LEGAL.


Thanks to all God bless. GTAMAN is out of service.

This is utter horsepoop.
The "inputs" to what? Are you referring to the uplink in a duplex system?

Your claims are just that, unvalidated and so far, like this "field programmable Astro Saber III dual band" rumor started at Dayton over a decade ago, well- just a bunch of wind and sewage runoff in the boneyard.

[gtaman]

Originally Posted by MTS2000des

This is utter horsepoop.
The "inputs" to what? Are you referring to the uplink in a duplex system?

Your claims are just that, unvalidated and so far, like this "field programmable Astro Saber III dual band" rumor started at Dayton over a decade ago, well- just a bunch of wind and sewage runoff in the boneyard.

The repeater inputs. Sometimes an encrypted repeater is only encrypted on the output side sometimes the input is not the controller can do it. Look on youtube thiers a video of it.

[xmo]

Dude! It's time to step up to the plate - get us some trustworthy, independent verification of your claims.

Breaking AES and DES encrypted audio in real time with a wifi hacking program is kind of a far-fetched claim - especially since the NSA and FBI have been trying to do it for years with supercomputers.

It sounds about as far fetched as if you posted that you just saw bigfoot in your back yard after you got back from lunch with Elvis the day after the nice aliens brought you back from visitng their planet in the Alpha Centauri system.

So ... as I said ... it's time to put up or risk having everyone believing you're on crack.

[gtaman]

Originally Posted by xmo

Dude! It's time to step up to the plate - get us some trustworthy, independent verification of your claims.

Breaking AES and DES encrypted audio in real time with a wifi hacking program is kind of a far-fetched claim - especially since the NSA and FBI have been trying to do it for years with supercomputers.

It sounds about as far fetched as if you posted that you just saw bigfoot in your back yard after you got back from lunch with Elvis the day after the nice aliens brought you back from visitng their planet in the Alpha Centauri system.

So ... as I said ... it's time to put up or risk having everyone believing you're on crack.

It's name is Крипто сканирования or in plain English Krypto Scan. Anyone hear know how to hack your own wifi? It's pretty simple the reciver looks for traffic it can sniff out the data packets and decypher the code. A 256 bit encryption code can be complicated though. Any one really listen to encryption care fully? You can hear little bits sometimes right? The program with listen to the audio first and figure out what encryption the signal is. Then it will start to gather data. It's like I giant puzzle. It will work to combine piece by piece the audio. It re arranges the bits of audio and compresses them. After they're compressed it will work on making it playable let me tell you it's not clear it can be very garbled and digitized but you can hear some comms. Also it won't do it in real time a 30 second transmission can take up to 20mins to decypher. So it's not live you listen to it after so it's really no use on the field. It's to hear it after the transmission. Encryption is a large puzzle put the bits and pieces together and you can make something. It doesn't give keys only audio. It's also a pain to use I tested it awhile ago I don't use it much as I don't listen to customs or government because its mostly boring garbage. Also it will only run on windows xp in a slow computer it's poorly written and done and it doesn't always work. It may not even work now with different types of encryption starting to pop up. If the signal is too weak then it won't work. If it cuts out then the audio will have breaks in it. I did it as a test not because I wanted it. It sometimes worked but now always. I don't have enough time to set everything up and try to decode its too time consuming and each transmission has to individually decoded so and hour of audio can take a day to finally hear about a suspicious looking garbage can near a building.

[snig64]

Originally Posted by pepsima1

These forums have nothing to do what other cities and counties do. Also, nobody in this world can predict the future so you have no proof what can happen in the future with de-cryption and technology. So stop being so angry. So these radio forum have no proof and no bearing on who encrypts and who does not.

You should go to public meetings and hear them say "5-0 Scanner", app, iPhone, and Droid. You need to get out a little more and not be a RR fanboy.

[icom1020]

It's true. Some of the reasons cited by system managers are the publishing of sensitive TG's and freqs along with the recent streaming of in the clear coms of swat and other high-incident responses. Look for more dead zones in radio-land.

[gary123]

Originally Posted by gtaman

One last thing. Want an easier way to listen to comms? Check your inputs most of the time they are unencrypted. Was close to a place that had encryption hopped on the input what do ya know heard everything. Not all do this only some it's worth a try. That is LEGAL.


Thanks to all God bless. GTAMAN is out of service.

Bull

[kayfox]

The only hit for "Крипто сканирования" on Google is this thread.

[exkalibur]

gtaman, step it up please and provide us some proof.

Even the weakest encryption currently offered has roughly 1,100,000,000,000 trillion possible keys. An AES256 key which is what most new systems use, has 115,792,089,237,316,195,423,570,985,008,687,907,85 3,269,984,665,640,564,039,457,584,007,913,129,639, 936 possible keys.

Even if you could try 1 million keys a second, you're looking at LIFETIMES.

tl;dr: You aren't cracking encryption in real time. Give it up.

[chpalmer]

Wow- Just wow!

Guess we'll have to go back to the engineering team and redesign the wheel eh?

[com501]

Those evil Russians just steal pre-loaded radios. It's easier.

[rapidcharger]

Originally Posted by com501

Those evil Russians just steal pre-loaded radios. It's easier.

Far easier to just bribe someone working for the vendor.

Sort of like how the politicians were bribed. We already know what their ethics are like.

[mlmummert]

Originally Posted by com501

Those evil Russians just steal pre-loaded radios. It's easier.

I don't think the Russians care which officer is picking up the donuts for a police station in Alabama.


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[kayn1n32008]

Originally Posted by gtaman

It's name is Крипто сканирования or in plain English Krypto Scan. Anyone hear know how to hack your own wifi? It's pretty simple the reciver looks for traffic it can sniff out the data packets and decypher the code. A 256 bit encryption code can be complicated though. Any one really listen to encryption care fully? You can hear little bits sometimes right? The program with listen to the audio first and figure out what encryption the signal is. Then it will start to gather data. It's like I giant puzzle. It will work to combine piece by piece the audio. It re arranges the bits of audio and compresses them. After they're compressed it will work on making it playable let me tell you it's not clear it can be very garbled and digitized but you can hear some comms. Also it won't do it in real time a 30 second transmission can take up to 20mins to decypher. So it's not live you listen to it after so it's really no use on the field. It's to hear it after the transmission. Encryption is a large puzzle put the bits and pieces together and you can make something. It doesn't give keys only audio. It's also a pain to use I tested it awhile ago I don't use it much as I don't listen to customs or government because its mostly boring garbage. Also it will only run on windows xp in a slow computer it's poorly written and done and it doesn't always work. It may not even work now with different types of encryption starting to pop up. If the signal is too weak then it won't work. If it cuts out then the audio will have breaks in it. I did it as a test not because I wanted it. It sometimes worked but now always. I don't have enough time to set everything up and try to decode its too time consuming and each transmission has to individually decoded so and hour of audio can take a day to finally hear about a suspicious looking garbage can near a building.

I want what this guy is smoking...

[brandon]

Encryption may be secure. Only until somebody goofs

[balibago]

I remember back in 1989 going to Mineral Wells, Texas to see my dad. I had just started scanning a year earlier. They were 100 percent in the clear and it was just before the cell phones came out in the smaller towns. When I went back in 1990. They could go "guarded". Much of the jucier stuff was now gone and I was disgusted. Fact is this is not the 1980s anymore. What's so alarming though is this 100 percent encryption stuff. Auto accidents, a kid shooting his pellet gun in town illegally, a fight at a bar well known for fights and dogs barking at night do not need to be encrypted. I have in the distant past heard some things that really weren't for public ears. In order to cover those few really bad things up such as the address of a sex crime in progress all transmissions should be encrypted to the level of a German submarine Enigma? And yes if I recall the German naval Enigma was decrypted in almost real time.