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06-30-2009, 04:06 PM
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reband question?
since I have to do it manually can anyone please tell me the following info for westhartford,band plan base freq upper/lower,offset / polarity,and spacing so I can put it in my scanner, I dont have any software for this any help will be greatly appreciated thanks!
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06-30-2009, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bluefox2163
since I have to do it manually can anyone please tell me the following info for westhartford,band plan base freq upper/lower,offset / polarity,and spacing so I can put it in my scanner, I dont have any software for this any help will be greatly appreciated thanks!
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Didn't you read the answer I gave you to download the firmware upgrade from the Uniden site?
Regardless, Base freq., offset, etc. have nothing to do with 800MHz trunking systems. |
07-01-2009, 12:22 PM
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yes I have all the latest firmware updates and the scanner is still not tracking it corrctly, I am pretty sure you have to set the base freq upper,lower,offset ,spacing for the system for it to track properly could anyone on here please help me with this,I would greatly appreciate it thankyou!
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07-01-2009, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DickH
Didn't you read the answer I gave you to download the firmware upgrade from the Uniden site?
Regardless, Base freq., offset, etc. have nothing to do with 800MHz trunking systems.
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Not quite, Dick. Base/offset settings are required with the Unidens (assuming you have the correct firmware) when working with rebanded systems, as documented here (and many other places)
Software Support for Uniden Rebanding - The RadioReference Wiki
BlueFox, please be more specific about the scanner you are using. 73 Mike
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07-01-2009, 12:51 PM
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Isnt this Question in like 5 diffrent places?
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07-01-2009, 12:53 PM
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yes I am using a bc996t and abc796d scanner can you help me get the info I need such as base freq,upp low,offset spacing for west hartford everyone keeps saying I dont need it but I think I do because the scanner still wont track it right,I hear it ,but Im definitly missing tranmissions thanks!
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07-01-2009, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bluefox2163
since I have to do it manually can anyone please tell me the following info for westhartford,band plan base freq upper/lower,offset / polarity,and spacing so I can put it in my scanner, I dont have any software for this any help will be greatly appreciated thanks!
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OK here is what the software says it put in my 396t...on two lines
lower 851.025 upper 854.00 step 25.0 offset 440
lower 851.025 upper 868.9875 step 25.0 offset 0
Hope that helps. I cant tell you how to do that manually. And you did put the latest firmware in? If this doesnt work I suggest contacting Mr. Upman Paul in the uniden forum. He probably is more technically inclined then me. Let us know if it works |
07-01-2009, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ka3jjz
Not quite, Dick. Base/offset settings are required with the Unidens (assuming you have the correct firmware) when working with rebanded systems, as documented here (and many other places)
Software Support for Uniden Rebanding - The RadioReference Wiki
BlueFox, please be more specific about the scanner you are using. 73 Mike |
In the PRO-160 & 162 it's called CUSTOM BAND PLANS. If he had used that term I could have helped him right away. Here is how to do it for the 160 & 162. Maybe it will also work for his scanner, the PRO-164.
Adding these two Custom Ranges will allow proper tracking of most systems. For some systems it may be necessary to exchange the values in Plan 1 & Plan 2, steps 9, 10, 12 & 14.
TO SET BAND PLAN 1:
Select or enter: then Push:
1 FUNC + MAN/MENU
2 TRUNK OPTION ENT/PGM
3 BANK number ENT/PGM
4 MOTOROLA ENT/PGM
5 800MHz CH PLAN ENT/PGM
6 CUSTOM ENT/PGM
7 CUSTOM RANGE 1 ENT/PGM
8 BASE FREQ ENT/PGM
9 851.0125 ENT/PGM
10 861.9875 ENT/PGM (or 868.9875)
11 OFFSET ENT/PGM
12 0 ENT/PGM
13 SPACING ENT/PGM
14 25 ENT/PGM
15 CL
TO SET BAND PLAN 2:
(Repeat steps 7-15 with different values)
Select or enter: then Push:
7 CUSTOM RANGE 2 ENT/PGM
8 BASE FREQ ENT/PGM
9 851.0250 ENT/PGM
10 854.0000 ENT/PGM
11 OFFSET ENT/PGM
12 440 ENT/PGM
13 SPACING ENT/PGM
14 25 ENT/PGM
15 CL |
07-01-2009, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bluefox2163
yes I am using a bc996t and abc796d scanner can you help me get the info I need such as base freq,upp low,offset spacing for west hartford everyone keeps saying I dont need it but I think I do because the scanner still wont track it right,I hear it ,but Im definitly missing tranmissions thanks!
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If that's a response to my Private Message to you earlier this A.M. it does not answer my question. |
07-01-2009, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DickH
In the PRO-160 & 162 it's called CUSTOM BAND PLANS. If he had used that term I could have helped him right away. Here is how to do it for the 160 & 162. Maybe it will also work for his scanner, the PRO-164.
Adding these two Custom Ranges will allow proper tracking of most systems. For some systems it may be necessary to exchange the values in Plan 1 & Plan 2, steps 9, 10, 12 & 14.
TO SET BAND PLAN 1:
Select or enter: then Push:
1 FUNC + MAN/MENU
2 TRUNK OPTION ENT/PGM
3 BANK number ENT/PGM
4 MOTOROLA ENT/PGM
5 800MHz CH PLAN ENT/PGM
6 CUSTOM ENT/PGM
7 CUSTOM RANGE 1 ENT/PGM
8 BASE FREQ ENT/PGM
9 851.0125 ENT/PGM
10 861.9875 ENT/PGM (or 868.9875)
11 OFFSET ENT/PGM
12 0 ENT/PGM
13 SPACING ENT/PGM
14 25 ENT/PGM
15 CL
TO SET BAND PLAN 2:
(Repeat steps 7-15 with different values)
Select or enter: then Push:
7 CUSTOM RANGE 2 ENT/PGM
8 BASE FREQ ENT/PGM
9 851.0250 ENT/PGM
10 854.0000 ENT/PGM
11 OFFSET ENT/PGM
12 440 ENT/PGM
13 SPACING ENT/PGM
14 25 ENT/PGM
15 CL
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Unfortunately the formatting gets messed up when I paste it into this thread. If you want to see it displayed properly you'll have to join my PRO-160-162 group or e-mail me.
PRO-160-162 : PRO-160-162 scanner help |
07-01-2009, 09:11 PM
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BlueFox, I suspect what is needed here is to dump the contents of your 996 and 796 so other Conn. scannists can see what you've done and do the diagnosis. Fortunately [url=http://www.proscan.org} ProScan[/url] works with both of your scanners. You could also get the UASD (for the 996 anyway - it wouldn't work with the 796) and dump the 996 contents just to get you off the ground.
A couple of simple questions before I jump (T Storm coming!); do you have all the control channels programmed, and are in Control channel only mode? Is the West Hartford system a true P25 system or just an 800 system with digital audio (programming for both types is not quite the same). How do you know you are missing conversations?
Get a file from another Ct. Scannist perhaps? 73 Mike
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07-01-2009, 09:38 PM
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You cant use control channel only for west hartford. they change the control frequency like at midnight each day and they use all current frequencies. they rotate it. u have to put all the channels in. just use arc butel you will have the 996 done in less then 5 minutes...piece of cake
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07-02-2009, 10:02 AM
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ok thanks for the info guys I am going to try this and see what happened Ill be relieved if it works! I am missing transmission because the only frequecies that are trunking are 853.2875 and 853.8125,and it doesnt track at all in control channel only mode,it also starts displaying freqs like 862,3125 and stuff so I can tell something is not right with it,anyway ill try this and if i works ill display what I put in on here thankyou all/ ill be back if I need more ssistance!
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07-02-2009, 11:27 AM
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You cant use control channel only for west hartford. they change the control frequency like at midnight each day and they use all current frequencies. they rotate it. u have to put all the channels in. just use arc butel you will have the 996 done in less then 5 minutes...piece of cake
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That's no different than most any Moto trunk system, especially around where I live (central Maryland). One should be able to use control channel only and let the scanner calculate all the required voice channels. I don't understand why that shouldn't work, frankly.
73 Mike
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07-02-2009, 12:10 PM
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The Control Channel ONLY rotates amoung 4 frequencies, not all of the Voice Channels. Programming the 4 Control channels should work. 
Maybe Keith will jump back in, when the fires slow down. 
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Originally Posted by ka3jjz
That's no different than most any Moto trunk system, especially around where I live (central Maryland). One should be able to use control channel only and let the scanner calculate all the required voice channels. I don't understand why that shouldn't work, frankly.
73 Mike
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07-02-2009, 12:24 PM
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This looks wierd to me - when I look at the system in the database...
Scanner Frequencies: West Hartford Trunking System, West Hartford, Connecticut
It looks like both the rebanded and pre-rebanded frequencies are all in the same site. I don't believe that scanners could handle this - as far as I know, you would need to program the 2 sets of frequencies in different systems or sites. As it stands, it's a little perplexing.
73 Mike
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07-02-2009, 12:59 PM
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it wont work properly until I enter in the data I was given then well see what happens for now I got six frequencies in and it is only trunking two only the ones ending in 5 its getting,,like I said ill let you know if this works otherwise Ill probably bring it to lentinis and let him figure this out,and pay him of course...
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07-02-2009, 01:17 PM
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Looks like the DB combined the old and the new 
According to Keith:
The system was switch 6/25/09 to the new channels: 853.8125 MHz, 853.2875 MHz, 852.5500 MHz, 851.8000 MHz, and 851.3250 MHz. The system will remain analog.
West Hartford Rebanding
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Originally Posted by ka3jjz
This looks wierd to me - when I look at the system in the database...
Scanner Frequencies: West Hartford Trunking System, West Hartford, Connecticut
It looks like both the rebanded and pre-rebanded frequencies are all in the same site. I don't believe that scanners could handle this - as far as I know, you would need to program the 2 sets of frequencies in different systems or sites. As it stands, it's a little perplexing.
73 Mike |
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07-02-2009, 02:08 PM
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Control channel only wont work on West Hartford. they keep changing control channel every day...Only lists two channels in radio ref.
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07-02-2009, 02:09 PM
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You are correct. Whomever is the database manager for CT needs to remove the old frequencies. All of them have been in there for a bit...
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