460.1625 and 465.16250 - UHF FFLD County Hotline?

Lynch_Christopher · #1 (**permalink**) 07-27-2009, 12:01 AM

I happened to come across the following 2 frequencies and was curious as to whether or not they are in use. I found them under the license WQJH349 -which is the Fairfield County Chiefs of Police Association.
Under the license are also 154.1000 and 158.925, which is the Fairfiel County Holine. There are several transmitter sites located throughout Fairfield County which have the 460.1625 and 465.1625. I am thinking that these two frequecies could be the UHF version of the County Hotline. Has anybody had any luck recieving anything these on these two frequencies?

Thanks

N1SQB · #2 (**permalink**) 07-27-2009, 06:38 AM

Well, my guess is that these are repeater frequencies given the exact 5mhz.spacing. Definitely worth monitoring.
My guess is the 460 freq. is the output with the higher 465 is the input.

Manny

KB1JHU · #3 (**permalink**) 07-27-2009, 10:32 AM

I found that license a while ago and have had the 460 freq in my scanner since. Haven't heard a thing on it other than stuff from adjacent freqs.

Lynch_Christopher · #4 (**permalink**) 07-27-2009, 03:35 PM

Thanks for the responses. Could the reason that nothing has been heard on these two frequncies mean that it is still in the buildout phase and just not completed yet. It looks like the license WQJH349 is only a little over a year old. I have a strong feeling feeling that it is a interoperability frequency for most of the towns in Fairfield county.

KB1JHU · #5 (**permalink**) 07-27-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lynch_Christopher

Thanks for the responses. Could the reason that nothing has been heard on these two frequncies mean that it is still in the buildout phase and just not completed yet. It looks like the license WQJH349 is only a little over a year old. I have a strong feeling feeling that it is a interoperability frequency for most of the towns in Fairfield county.

Could be. I haven't even heard any testing. I suppose it could be one of those wishful thinking projects that got nailed by budget cuts.

Cskib32087 · #6 (**permalink**) 07-28-2009, 04:04 PM

its going to be a multi site VHF/UHF/800 simulcast system. I asked the Northeastern Comm guys working in redding and thats what they told me. The equipment is there its just not turned on yet for some reason. They don't know why but think it will be on end of october area in VHF & UHF and 800 later.

Lynch_Christopher · #7 (**permalink**) 07-28-2009, 04:55 PM

Thanks for the response. Thats interesting that the system hasn't been turned on yet. So basically in the future the Fairfield County Hotline will consist of a VHF, UHF, and 800 MHz frequency? What is the 800 MHz frequency going to be?

Cskib32087, you mentioned that you talked to the Northeastern Communications guys working in Redding how much more work do they have to do in the communications center? Will Redding have the ability to transmit on 460.1625 in addition to the 154.1000?

Dave520 · #8 (**permalink**) 07-28-2009, 06:39 PM

Here is a letter that is part of the license mentioned above. This mentions the VHF frequencies only.

https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsEntry/a...Ind=applAttach

Lynch_Christopher · #9 (**permalink**) 07-28-2009, 07:28 PM

Yeah I also saw that letter when I took a look at the license info. They do mention the VHF existing network but maybe they chose to expand it to the UHF and 800 MHz band since the letter was written. Looking at the license most of the 460 frequencies are paired up with the 154.100 transmitter locations.

Dave520 · #10 (**permalink**) 07-28-2009, 08:57 PM

I could see it for VHF and UHF but I do not see the need for 800mhz. We already have ITAC, STOCS & CSPERN. CSPERN seems to work pretty good, I heard New Haven down in Greenwich when they were first testing it. Plus the State Police system covers Fairfield County pretty well. Just my $.02

Thanks,
Dave

Lynch_Christopher · #11 (**permalink**) 07-28-2009, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave520

I could see it for VHF and UHF but I do not see the need for 800mhz. We already have ITAC, STOCS & CSPERN. CSPERN seems to work pretty good, I heard New Haven down in Greenwich when they were first testing it. Plus the State Police system covers Fairfield County pretty well. Just my $.02

Thanks,
Dave

Good point. I guess maybe the feeling behind the UHF and the VHF is that a lot of towns big and small may already have the VHF and UHF and the infrastructure is in place whereas they may not have the STOCS, or ITAC radios. I know the STOCS is more for on scene communications to link portables. I think the main purpose behind the current UHF and VHF is for dispatchers to let other dispatch centers and cruisers around the county know that something is going on such as a car chase. Dispatchers could also let other towns over the ITAC channels know about the chase but I am sure that most of the police cruisers aren't equipped with ITAC channel receivers. What are the CSPERN frequencies? The only downside of the VHF Hotline is that towns outside of Fairfield County may not be equipped with those frequencies It seems like there are so many different types of interoperability that it would be hard to keep track of them, but if one town doesn't have a particular system they could use another system.

awasser1 · #12 (**permalink**) 07-29-2009, 12:52 AM

It's funny or maybe not...We have all those interagy freq u already listed and the towns still dont use them. they still call on the phone...State Police is good about using Hotline...They need to just make one big system for the whole state everyone is covered. Building these systems one town at a time is not cost effective...Use some of that stimulus money now!

Dave520 · #13 (**permalink**) 07-29-2009, 10:41 AM

CSPERN = 858.2625 PL 156.7 CSPERN = Connecticut State Police Emergency Network.

A few years ago there were newspaper articles that bragged about this system. Police can talk from one end of the state to the other. Provided they have 800mhz capabilities! It is not used very much, but when they do use it it sounds pretty good.

Also, do a search on this forum and you will see some of the discussions about this system.

Dave

Lynch_Christopher · #14 (**permalink**) 07-29-2009, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave520

CSPERN = 858.2625 PL 156.7 CSPERN = Connecticut State Police Emergency Network.

A few years ago there were newspaper articles that bragged about this system. Police can talk from one end of the state to the other. Provided they have 800mhz capabilities! It is not used very much, but when they do use it it sounds pretty good.

Also, do a search on this forum and you will see some of the discussions about this system.

Dave

Hey Thanks for Info. Actually after I posted that I went and looked at the threads having to do with CSPERN. There is a fair amount of information about it. It sounds like it is a great concept just getting all of the equipment installed in all of the towns communication centers and outfitting the police cruisers with the 800 MHz radios. It seems like the majority of the users of CSPERN are the towns and cities that already use 800 MHz systems.

I wonder what towns currently have the capability to monitor the CSPERN frequency? I know most of the towns probably have the capability to monitor the ITAC and ICALL frequencies.

SKYNET156 · #15 (**permalink**) 07-29-2009, 11:10 AM

I know that in new haven county we use 460.1500 as a new haven county calling channel,
I am not sure what they use statewide, because towns like wallingford are 800mhz P25, but if you run the license for wallingford, they show 460.1500mhz, i am not sure if they have a link into the repeater or just use portables,
With the CSPERN system, i am suprised that the state police just don't input the 800mhz conventional frequency in their portables and mobiles,
I have heard police chases broadcast over that 800mhz frequency, i am not sure about ITAC, i have heard only 1 broadcast going over that, and that was a testing/roll call purpose during july 2008,
I know that connecticut also has all the lowband systems still in place, and i am not sure how frequent the use is on that?
They should really look into a statewide system such as ITAC style systems that are designed to cover the entire state in the event of a major emergency,
We have so many systems put into place that i can't keep up with all of them,
I know that alot of other states have 4-5 specific frequencies put into place on 1 band that is used for interop during chases, major emergencies, Ect,
I just don't know why we have so many different systems in place that we are having trouble linking

awasser1 · #16 (**permalink**) 07-30-2009, 08:18 AM

Probably because it costs money...The Gover is already screaming to raise our taxes. Where is all that money from the Fed Govt they can use !

Firebuff66 · #17 (**permalink**) 07-30-2009, 07:23 PM

Reddings Dispatch center is done, they are using the new consoles for ablout 2 weks now.. The VHF/UHF/800 fairfield county System is going to be patched together, A norwalk car on 800 can talk to a new canan car on VHF while in a chase and wilton car on UHF listens...Can't patch the I-call or C-spern to do that as they are state wide systems..Every PSAP in the state has CSPERN & I-TAC/I-CALL in them. The problem is they are mostly in the same radio and don't scan

Lynch_Christopher · #18 (**permalink**) 07-30-2009, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebuff66

Reddings Dispatch center is done, they are using the new consoles for ablout 2 weks now.. The VHF/UHF/800 fairfield county System is going to be patched together, A norwalk car on 800 can talk to a new canan car on VHF while in a chase and wilton car on UHF listens...Can't patch the I-call or C-spern to do that as they are state wide systems..Every PSAP in the state has CSPERN & I-TAC/I-CALL in them. The problem is they are mostly in the same radio and don't scan

Hey Thanks for the response I appreciate it. Thanks for clearing up info about the VHF,UHF, 800 county system works. Has the whole system been completed yet?

In regards to the Redding Dispatch center do you work or there or have helped install their new system? Did they add a third console I know they originally had 2? I heard that they should be switching to digital sometime in August.

Lynch_Christopher · #19 (**permalink**) 09-24-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cskib32087

its going to be a multi site VHF/UHF/800 simulcast system. I asked the Northeastern Comm guys working in redding and thats what they told me. The equipment is there its just not turned on yet for some reason. They don't know why but think it will be on end of October area in VHF & UHF and 800 later.

Do you happen to know if they still plan on beginning use of the new UHF and 800 MHz hotline at the end of October?