Issues tracking Troop E CSP

ledscan89 · #1 (**permalink**) 12-16-2011, 2:43 PM

I have both a Uniden Bearcat 996T and a RadioShack Pro 106. Both are digital, and in the past, I had no issues tracking any of the CSP sites. A few months ago, I noticed I'm missing transmissions, especially on Troop E's dispatch channel, (CH 37). This mostly happens after someone talks and the person answering lets the signal stop for a second before answering, the scanner tries to track the talkgroup and pick the transmission back up, but the channel either blinks on and off, or stays on the channel and shows signal but there's no audio in either case. This happens on both radios, and I've tried every setting I can think of to fix this. Does anyone have any ideas? It's really becoming quite annoying..

Thanks in advance for the help.

y10kiscoming · #2 (**permalink**) 12-16-2011, 8:07 PM

This definitely sounds like a rebanding issue. Have you updated the firmware and set CSP as a rebanded system?

ledscan89 · #3 (**permalink**) 12-16-2011, 8:55 PM

I'm running 3.02.00 on the 996T, I think that's the most recent. I overhauled the scanners after the rebanding took place and reprogrammed all of the CSP in to it..

Is there a setting I could be missing? I'm wondering if I'm the only one having this issue, but it seems odd that both radios would do it.

scanningisfun · #4 (**permalink**) 12-16-2011, 9:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ledscan89

I'm running 3.02.00 on the 996T, I think that's the most recent. I overhauled the scanners after the rebanding took place and reprogrammed all of the CSP in to it..

Is there a setting I could be missing? I'm wondering if I'm the only one having this issue, but it seems odd that both radios would do it.

So you are saying you have the tables in the scanner and that the signal strength where you are is relatively good?

ledscan89 · #5 (**permalink**) 12-16-2011, 9:13 PM

Signal strength is good, I have the frequencies programmed in as are on here. Could it be something to do with the P25 wait time?

Also, as there's no band plan listed I believe they're set to default.

scanningisfun · #6 (**permalink**) 12-16-2011, 9:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ledscan89

Signal strength is good, I have the frequencies programmed in as are on here. Could it be something to do with the P25 wait time?

Also, as there's no band plan listed I believe they're set to default.

Tables as in rebanding tables. If the 'Site Controller' assigns a voice frequency on a splinter frequency without the table in your scanner, the scanner will go to the wrong voice frequency. Troop E simulcast has one splinter voice frequency and two 'general' voice frequencies. Splinter frequencies end with .025, .050, .075, etc.

ledscan89 · #7 (**permalink**) 12-16-2011, 9:28 PM

My frequencies are programmed exactly like that, yes.

scanningisfun · #8 (**permalink**) 12-16-2011, 9:29 PM

Search the wiki for 'Rebanding' to help you understand more.

For the 996T, just enter the following tables:

Band Plan 1: 851.0250 | 854.0000 | Offset 440 | + | 25 kHz

Band Plan 2: 851.0125 | 868.9875 | Offset 0 | + | 25 kHz

ledscan89 · #9 (**permalink**) 12-16-2011, 9:40 PM

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Originally Posted by scanningisfun

Search the wiki for 'Rebanding' to help you understand more.

For the 996T, just enter the following tables:

Band Plan 1: 851.0250 | 854.0000 | Offset 440 | + | 25 kHz

Band Plan 2: 851.0125 | 868.9875 | Offset 0 | + | 25 kHz

For some reason I'm not able to find the "Edit Band Plan" option anywhere.

scanningisfun · #10 (**permalink**) 12-16-2011, 9:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ledscan89

For some reason I'm not able to find the "Edit Band Plan" option anywhere.

Program System--->CT State Police--->Troop E Site--->Edit Band Plan---->Custom----->Enter the tables
above.

ledscan89 · #11 (**permalink**) 12-16-2011, 9:55 PM

Ah may have solved the mystery..I don't think the program was programmed as a "Custum" from the start, only as a P25..therefore it was using the default and wouldn't let you change the band plan. I popped in just E's site and put it on Search and put my Radioshack on wildcard, and the Uniden is picking up everything while the radioshack shows the same TGID with no audio.

scanningisfun · #12 (**permalink**) 12-16-2011, 9:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ledscan89

Ah may have solved the mystery..I don't think the program was programmed as a "Custum" from the start, only as a P25..therefore it was using the default and wouldn't let you change the band plan. I popped in just E's site and put it on Search and put my Radioshack on wildcard, and the Uniden is picking up everything while the radioshack shows the same TGID with no audio.

Sorry about that, I didn't know the 996T makes you put in the site type from the start. I guess the tables worked. Were the tables already put in when you selected Custom?

ledscan89 · #13 (**permalink**) 12-16-2011, 9:58 PM

Yes THANK YOU! You have no clue how long I've been trying to figure this thing out because I knew I wasn't crazy. Many thanks! Now to figure out how to change the band plan in the RadioShack Pro106. (The Uniden's storage setup is so much more logical).

scanningisfun · #14 (**permalink**) 12-16-2011, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ledscan89

Yes THANK YOU! You have no clue how long I've been trying to figure this thing out because I knew I wasn't crazy. Many thanks! Now to figure out how to change the band plan in the RadioShack Pro106. (The Uniden's storage setup is so much more logical).

Refer to this post:

Pro-106 Rebanding

ledscan89 · #15 (**permalink**) 12-16-2011, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by scanningisfun

Refer to this post:

Pro-106 Rebanding

Wow, that's awesome, thank you for the help again, I really appreciate it!