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Old 04-10-2017, 6:31 PM
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Looks like the radio project is now getting pushed back to June. They are still working on the Moses Mountain radio site.

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Completion of the town’s public radio system update, which was estimated to be done in April, has been pushed back to possibly June.
Dick Aarons told The Press last week that the last stage of the project — strengthening the foundation at Moses Mountain — is taking longer than anticipated. AT&T is the company working on its completion.
The $3.7-million project started in 2012, and was expected to be operational by April 1.
“I’m told that they’re [AT&T] waiting for some galvanized structural steel, and as soon as it’s delivered,” Aarons said, “their crews will be working on completing the job — I’m guessing by the third week of April.”
Once construction on Moses Mountain is complete, Aarons’s team will place a shelter for the radio equipment at the tower location.
“The new time is probably like June,” said Aarons.
But he said that a good part of the system is already up and running.
“With the exception of the fire department, all departments are using the new radios,” he said.
The radios are being used in analog mode, but will be switched to digital once the full scope of the project is complete.
Moses Mountain is a critical location because it is a relay point for the radio frequency signals that allow for digital radio communications.
Aarons said the system will guarantee all public safety responders 95% communication from any house in Ridgefield through their portable radios.
Radio upgrade pushed back to June | The Ridgefield Press
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Anybody happen to catch any activity on the new system as of yet. Remember them mentioning that it was going to go online around June.
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Anybody happen to catch any activity on the new system as of yet. Remember them mentioning that it was going to go online around June.
Well, I don't know about any new channels but 154.9725 PL.71.9 is still going strong in analog mode. Listening to it as I write this.

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Anybody happen to catch any activity on the new system as of yet. Remember them mentioning that it was going to go online around June.
Im thinking they MIGHT get it on line and working well by June 2019.

its already been 5 years, whats a few more LOL
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Sayonara analog, hello digital.

The town’s public safety radio system will be transmitting digitally this month thanks to the completion of a multi-year overhaul that featured six construction sites around town — and out of it — that link communications for the police, fire, fire police, highway, emergency management, and parks and recreation departments.

The last piece of the puzzle — Moses Mountain tower, across the Danbury border — was finished in early June.

Now, incompatible radios at the scene of an emergency — including garbled transmissions and weak signals in many areas of town — are a thing of the past.

“Parks and Recreation and Highway are involved because during a major storm they’re clearing roads, plowing, taking care of wires,” said Acting Emergency Manager Dick Aarons who has been overseeing the $3.7-million radio system upgrade for the last half decade.

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Aarons said that the Moses Mountain tower took the longest because of unexpected complications.

“It took us a whole year — or a little bit longer — to get permission to work on that tower,” he said.

“Once we got that permission, we finished our work in three weeks.”

But, even before Moses Tower was complete, Aarons said that a large part of the system had been up and running for months.

“Parks and recreation, the highway department, the office of emergency management and the fire police — they’re already using the new radios on the new digital system,” he said.

The holdouts

The two departments still communicating on the old-school analog system? Fire and police.

Aarons said that the new radios have been installed, but those departments have yet to make the switch to digital.

The plan is for both the cops and firefighters to be on the new system Tuesday, July 25.

Aarons said that, with the digital signal, emergency responders will be able to communicate from their portable radios from any home in Ridgefield
Gone digital: Radio upgrade complete | The Ridgefield Press
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159.045 NAC131 Sounds like its cross patched to the low band today. But just like Trumbull FDs VHF cross patch it was put together poorly and sounds horrible.

It can be done so it sounds good but you have to know what your doing.

As I always say, you can have 10 million dollars in your radio system but if you don't select the correct local shop to support it you will get something that sounds like you spent $10......They selected poorly.

I'm not close enough to see if the 151.325 digital fire ground is active or not.
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Sadly, there seems to be no shortage of radio shops that will eagerly take money and then exploit the radio ignorance of department managers to deliver suboptimal radio systems.

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159.045 NAC131 Sounds like its cross patched to the low band today. But just like Trumbull FDs VHF cross patch it was put together poorly and sounds horrible.

It can be done so it sounds good but you have to know what your doing.

As I always say, you can have 10 million dollars in your radio system but if you don't select the correct local shop to support it you will get something that sounds like you spent $10......They selected poorly.

I'm not close enough to see if the 151.325 digital fire ground is active or not.
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Does anyone know who else is on the Moses Mtn tower in Danbury?
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159.045 NAC131 Sounds like its cross patched to the low band today. But just like Trumbull FDs VHF cross patch it was put together poorly and sounds horrible.

It can be done so it sounds good but you have to know what your doing.

As I always say, you can have 10 million dollars in your radio system but if you don't select the correct local shop to support it you will get something that sounds like you spent $10......They selected poorly.

I'm not close enough to see if the 151.325 digital fire ground is active or not.
The low band cross patch will remain for dispatching the vollies.
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What frequency is Trumbull fire using for their VHF cross patch? I don't see, and haven't seen, anything in the database except for the UHF fireground channels and the 33.56 and 33.76 dispatch channels.
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What frequency is Trumbull fire using for their VHF cross patch? I don't see, and haven't seen, anything in the database except for the UHF fireground channels and the 33.56 and 33.76 dispatch channels.
155.9625-DPL-311 Its been up for a few years and has fair coverage but the audio is very low. Easy to fix but you have to get the right person.
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The low band cross patch will remain for dispatching the vollies.
We can only hope if they keep it patched they can get someone who knows how to make it work, out there to fix it.
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155.9625-DPL-311 Its been up for a few years and has fair coverage but the audio is very low. Easy to fix but you have to get the right person.
Thanks! I never knew that it existed.
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159.045 NAC131 Sounds like its cross patched to the low band today. But just like Trumbull FDs VHF cross patch it was put together poorly and sounds horrible.

It can be done so it sounds good but you have to know what your doing.

As I always say, you can have 10 million dollars in your radio system but if you don't select the correct local shop to support it you will get something that sounds like you spent $10......They selected poorly.

I'm not close enough to see if the 151.325 digital fire ground is active or not.
Any idea what the channel lineup for the FD portables is? Curious what other fireground frequencies they have besides 151.325?
Also according to the article they mention that they officially switch over on the 25th of July so hopefully they do some tweaking with the cross patch and it starts to sound better.
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Does anyone know who else is on the Moses Mtn tower in Danbury?
Besides the Town Of Ridgefield you also have the following,

Danbury Police
Fairfield County Police PD Hotline
Litchfield County Dispatch
Connecticut State Police
Marcus Communications
There is a also a relay to the WRNN studio in Kingston, New York
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the system is up and running, but they have bugs. It is cross banded to the low band. A few nights ago during a serious propane leak, the entire system failed and was basically unusable. I dont know the details on that, took all night for them to get it back online.

In my experience, when you try to cross band and cobble things together, they generally dont work too well. I also have a big problem with digital communications for the fire service. Sure, they've come a long way with digital technology, but the weakest link in a chain is what I worry about, and most of these systems are too complicated for the end users, who mostly are "just" firefighters or park & rec guys, or whatever. Simple is great, they should have left it analog...

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The whole digital is bad for the fire service thing was over 10 years ago but people are very slow to catch up.
No one has ever died because of Digital Voice, If you really want to look you will see that for the last 15 years when people yell that digital was the cause of an issue its always one of the following, Poor Training, poor fire ground operations or the radio were set up incorrectly. You can go read 100s of NIOSH reports and you will find they blame the radios in some of them but its not how the voice is broadcast its how the radio is used and the policy/procedures for using them.

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The whole digital is bad for the fire service thing was over 10 years ago but people are very slow to catch up.
No one has ever died because of Digital Voice, If you really want to look you will see that for the last 15 years when people yell that digital was the cause of an issue its always one of the following, Poor Training, poor fire ground operations or the radio were set up incorrectly. You can go read 100s of NIOSH reports and you will find they blame the radios in some of them but its not how the voice is broadcast its how the radio is used and the policy/procedures for using them.

The Fire Service ...250 years of tradition, never marred by progress.
What "progress" is there to be made where none is needed? Especially when said "progress" does nothing but increase profits and commissions for the salesman? Why put digital pump controls where a $25 throttle cable worked perfectly for 75 years?

In a small town, such as Ridgefield, it is a complete waste of time, resources, and money. Someone bought the snake oil...
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What "progress" is there to be made where none is needed? Especially when said "progress" does nothing but increase profits and commissions for the salesman? Why put digital pump controls where a $25 throttle cable worked perfectly for 75 years?

In a small town, such as Ridgefield, it is a complete waste of time, resources, and money. Someone bought the snake oil...
LMAO...you are correct why spend money on a radio system so the people who protect the public can do it to the best of their ability.

While you are at it let get rid of medications for diabetics and people with heart issues...none of that new fangled stuff, they didn't need it in the 1700s so they don't need it now! Im with you 100%
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LMAO...you are correct why spend money on a radio system so the people who protect the public can do it to the best of their ability.

While you are at it let get rid of medications for diabetics and people with heart issues...none of that new fangled stuff, they didn't need it in the 1700s so they don't need it now! Im with you 100%
Answer my question with something other than sarcasm if you can. For the record, I "protected the public" and used said radios for 30 years. And Bernie has more years than that and is still doing it.
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