TimeMCI TimeTrac

[IdleMonitor]

http://www.radioreference.com/module...TRSDB&sid=4307

I have I think 3 frequencies in my area that are of this type of system. Not sure though if they're on the same system though.

I forget which program I had used before, but I was able to get a SysID for the ctrl. that's on 460.3375.

Any ideas?

Haven't really heard anything on the frequencies when I've put them in before so I gave up on the system. But I know the ctrl. channel is active.

And can the 246T monitor this system? No, eh.

[mciupa]

Originally Posted by IdleMonitor

http://www.radioreference.com/module...TRSDB&sid=4307

.. can the 246T monitor this system?

No, no scanners will trunk the MPT -1327 systems. But, you can listen conventionally.
I do this with the Maxtel Wireless System in Niagara to monitor The Falls FD.

Which site of those seven listed does 460.3375 belong to ?

I see it mentions that the talkgroups were identified with the help of the Tronquito program. I think that is a downloadable program available here on RR.

Maybe worth a try.

[IdleMonitor]

Well I see it's been partially updated.

The Control channel is actually 460.3875 which I was referring to site 103.

460.2875 I don't see that as being associated with this though in tafl.

460.3875 (Ctrl. Ch.)
460.5125
461.1625

I rarely program these in because I've never thought there was any activity on there. Although the Ctrl. Ch. is active with noise.

If I compress the audio file I can upload it here and have someone with the right program to get the SysID.

I know I had it before, I forget what it was though.

[IdleMonitor]

Well, I've certainly got suprised here.

I just plugged the 2 voice frequencies in and low and behold we've got some radio traffic.

Now to just try and figure out how the hell to identifty users on here. And figure out who out this way would use this system besides the one's in Ottawa.

[DaveH]

You are correct, the CC should have been 460.3875 (correction was requested). 460.3375 belongs to AECL, which is not related to TimeTrac, although it wouldn't be a surprise if Time maintains the AECL system.

System ID, yeah, no biggie, there isn't a lot that can be done with it. Trunkito churns out continuous data that fills the screen. A version that was supposed to fix this didn't seem to work as expected.

MPT-1327 systems use base/offset/step and multiple ranges somewhat like Moto systems. These may not be all the same for all sites. For example one site has base=451.00000, offset=1, and step=6.25kHz (0.00625). Trunkito can't handle 6.25Hz, rounds down to 6.20kHz, which causes the displayed frequencies to be wrong. How far off they are depends on the channel number. I also believe Trunkito can't be set up for multiple ranges, so channels in one range might (sort of) be displayed correctly, while others are way off.

To ID users, you have to stop the program just after a user goes active, and read the hex code. Users sometimes show up on multiple sites simultaneously, but seems to depend whether they originate on the site you are listening to, whether their ID is displayed. I've heard two one-sided parts of a conversation on channels on two different sites, due to networking.

Dave

[IdleMonitor]

I remember that program doing that. What is the easiest way to stop that. Pressing pause?

Can someone .zip the program and include it in the thread. I've been having downloading troubles lately because of Download Accelarator being stuck on my system somehow even though it's been uninstalled.

Originally Posted by DaveH

System ID, yeah, no biggie, there isn't a lot that can be done with it. Trunkito churns out continuous data that fills the screen. A version that was supposed to fix this didn't seem to work as expected.

MPT-1327 systems use base/offset/step and multiple ranges somewhat like Moto systems. These may not be all the same for all sites. For example one site has base=451.00000, offset=1, and step=6.25kHz (0.00625). Trunkito can't handle 6.25Hz, rounds down to 6.20kHz, which causes the displayed frequencies to be wrong. How far off they are depends on the channel number. I also believe Trunkito can't be set up for multiple ranges, so channels in one range might (sort of) be displayed correctly, while others are way off.

To ID users, you have to stop the program just after a user goes active, and read the hex code. Users sometimes show up on multiple sites simultaneously, but seems to depend whether they originate on the site you are listening to, whether their ID is displayed. I've heard two one-sided parts of a conversation on channels on two different sites, due to networking.

Dave

[IdleMonitor]

If this isn't compressed right, let me know. Otherwise it should work.

[IdleMonitor]

Anyone care to confirm all these to see how much they may fill in a few gaps?



451.075000 456.087500 Ottawa (queen Elizabeth Tower A) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
451.237500 456.237500 Ottawa Ontario Bromley Square Time Mobile Communications Inc.
451.350000 456.362500 Ottawa (queen Elizabeth Tower A) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
451.350000 456.362500 Ottawa Ontario Skyline Hotel Time Mobile Communications Inc.
451.400000 456.412500 Pakenham, On (pakenham Ward) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
451.450000 456.462500 Ottawa (queen Elizabeth Tower A) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
451.475000 456.487500 Cumberland, On (2105 Dunning Road) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
451.475000 456.487500 Pembroke, On (hwy 17 & 62) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
451.500000 456.512500 Ottawa (queen Elizabeth Tower A) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
451.600000 456.612500 Ottawa (queen Elizabeth Tower A) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
452.100000 457.112500 Ottawa (queen Elizabeth Tower A) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
452.287500 457.287500 Ottawa (queen Elizabeth Tower A) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
452.775000 457.787500 Ottawa (queen Elizabeth Tower A) Time Mobile Communications Inc. Attn: Don Mackenzie
454.025000 459.025000 Ottawa (queen Elizabeth Tower A) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
460.025000 465.037500 Ottawa Ontario Skyline Hotel Time Mobile Communications Inc.
460.062500 465.062500 Nepean (994 Moodie Dr-mcfarland) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
460.287500 465.287500 Ottawa (3360 Southgate - Stratmore) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
460.387500 465.387500 Cumberland, On (2105 Dunning Road) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
460.387500 465.387500 Renfrew, On (pinnacle Hill) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
460.437500 465.437500 Ottawa (queen Elizabeth Tower A) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
460.437500 465.437500 Springhill, On (vernon) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
460.512500 465.512500 Renfrew, On (pinnacle Hill) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
460.612500 465.612500 Springhill, On (vernon) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
460.637500 465.637500 Nepean (994 Moodie Dr-mcfarland) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
460.637500 465.637500 Ottawa (queen Elizabeth Tower A) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
461.162500 466.162500 Renfrew, On (pinnacle Hill) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
461.387500 466.387500 Pakenham, On (pakenham Ward) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
461.887500 466.887500 Ottawa (3360 Southgate - Stratmore) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
462.212500 467.212500 Ottawa (3360 Southgate - Stratmore) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
462.212500 467.212500 Pembroke, On (hwy 17 & 62) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
462.337500 467.337500 Nepean (994 Moodie Dr-mcfarland) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
463.325000 468.337500 Ottawa Ontario Skyline Hotel Time Mobile Communications Inc.
463.375000 468.387500 Cumberland, On (2105 Dunning Road) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
463.375000 468.387500 Ottawa (queen Elizabeth Tower A) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
463.612500 468.612500 Springhill, On (vernon) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
463.962500 468.962500 Nepean (994 Moodie Dr-mcfarland) Time Mobile Communications Inc.
464.012500 469.012500 Pakenham, On (pakenham Ward) Time Mobile Communications Inc.

[IdleMonitor]

Here's a link that describes this radio system.
http://www.timemci.com/timetrac.htm

Map of there coverage area is at http://www.timemci.com/maps.htm

[IdleMonitor]

Ok, finally got this tronquito program working. Seems that continuous part has been fixed.

Was able to finally get the SysID for the Pinnacle Hill site, not that it matters though.

So when there's activity on the voice frequencies, do I just switch over to the ctrl channel and look at the activity on it with tronquito? And will it give the ID of the user who's on the system?

Finally another system I can maybe help put together.

[DaveH]

Some of the frequencies listed can't possibly be used at two sites close together,
so one of them must be on the road to expiry. More than 90% of the big list
you posted is already on THIS database.

Anybody interested in searching out this kind of data should, or would
have gone to TAFL already. I just don't get the point of dumping this stuff
into a thread.

Dave

[jellotor]

...I believe that UniTrunker also supports decoding MPT1327 systems. Still won't be able to listen in to specific talkgroups until that program is completed but at least you'll be able to ID some talkgroup numbers. And hopefully it'll be easier than using Tronquito.

[IdleMonitor]

So can anyone help decipher the following mumbo jumbo?


New network...

SYS 0x40b9 Unknown network - C.C. 460.0000 MHz
SYS 0x40b9 CLEAR CHAN: 0xc2 Freq:462.4250


CLEAR CHAN: 0xc2 Freq:462.4250


SYS 0x40b9