Homeland security

VPD24193 · #1 (**permalink**) 05-18-2009, 04:16 PM

how do the radio nets work and what net would be for the NJ/NY area

ecps92 · #2 (**permalink**) 05-19-2009, 08:16 AM

Can you be more Specific??

What Agency. Homeland is like saying DOJ

TSA
FAM
INS/ICE
SS
FPS
USCG
Customs
FEMA
National Guard
Civil Air Patrol
[Agencies, obtained from Wikipedia]

You are best to search the WIKI here, as many of the channels have not changed, in years.

Spend sometime searching 162-174, 406-420, 138-144, 148-150.8
make notes. Spend a few weeks and then post your findings.

Not every channel is used every-day/week/month.
Some might pop-up for 5 min's each week, or a long major op.
Others, it's hit-or-miss.

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Originally Posted by VPD24193

how do the radio nets work and what net would be for the NJ/NY area

SOFA_KING · #3 (**permalink**) 05-19-2009, 09:05 AM

I read where you said you were not hearing anything. My first thought was your receiver conditions. What are you using? What antenna? Coax? What is around you for VHF transmitters and FM stations. If you are using a new GRE scanner, do you have an FM broadcast filter? On a clear frequency how many signal bars do you see on the display?

If you live anywhere near NYC you should hear something! But I know what a high RF area NNJ is and how it can trash a scanner receiver without good filtering. When I was up there I ran filters (modded ham radio diplexers and triplexers) to minimize images and overload. Then I would look for a location with a vantage point that had visibility "over" NYC, but not near any transmitters that would overload the scanner. The Palisades rest stops were great! I heard so much there. The best!

Put in the well know (on the wiki) national freqs for the major agencies. DEA, BATFE, USSS, CBP (it is a national plan!), and USMS. You have to hear something, although these are P25 digital so you will need a digital scanner. If you still can't hear anything, you have a receiver problem and may need filtering. The "attenuator" doesn't fix a thing...filtering does.

Good luck.

Phil

VPD24193 · #4 (**permalink**) 05-19-2009, 03:54 PM

ok i have a PRO-95 radioshack scanner. stock amtenna i recently have programed a few frequencies and got some sounds of like a control channel or just an open mic. Im looking for anybranch of homeland security that works in the NJ/NY area.

*would it be worth it to go and buy a digital scanner???*

ecps92 · #5 (**permalink**) 05-19-2009, 05:03 PM

When you say, Programmed.... what frequencies.
Trying to help, but I'm not a dentist

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Originally Posted by VPD24193

ok i have a PRO-95 radioshack scanner. stock amtenna i recently have programed a few frequencies and got some sounds of like a control channel or just an open mic. Im looking for anybranch of homeland security that works in the NJ/NY area.

*would it be worth it to go and buy a digital scanner???*

VPD24193 · #6 (**permalink**) 05-19-2009, 10:23 PM

sorry just some random fbi/dea freqs no homeland security i just want to know wat net is the best for the NJ/ NY area

signal500 · #7 (**permalink**) 05-19-2009, 11:38 PM

VPD,

Here are some frequencies to program in. Search 162-174 MHz and 406-420 MHz also.

U.S. Customs & Border Protection (CBP)

Frequency Type Tone Alpha Tag Description Mode Tag
165.23750 RM 100.0 PL NET 1 FM Federal
169.45000 RM 100.0 PL NET 2 FM Federal
165.23750 RM 100.0 PL NET 3 FM Federal
165.68750 RM 100.0 PL NET 4 FM Federal
164.60000 RM 100.0 PL NET 5 FM Federal
165.23750 RM 100.0 PL NET 6 FM Federal
165.46250 RM 100.0 PL NET 7 FM Federal
165.48750 RM 100.0 PL NET 8 FM Federal
165.68750 RM 100.0 PL NET 9 FM Federal
163.12500 RM 100.0 PL NET 10 FM Federal
165.76250 RM 100.0 PL NET 11 FM Federal
166.58750 RM 100.0 PL NET 12 FM Federal
165.41250 RM 100.0 PL NET 13 FM Federal
165.43750 RM 100.0 PL NET 14 FM Federal
162.05000 RM 100.0 PL NET 15 FM Federal
164.77500 RM 100.0 PL NET 16 FM Federal
165.23750 RM 100.0 PL NET 17 FM Federal
163.62500 RM 100.0 PL NET 18 FM Federal
163.67500 RM 100.0 PL NET 19 FM Federal
163.62500 RM 100.0 PL NET 20 FM Federal
163.62500 RM CSQ NET 21 FM Federal
163.67500 RM CSQ NET 22 FM Federal
163.67500 RM CSQ NET 23 FM Federal
165.68750 RM 94.8 PL NET 24 FM Federal
165.48750 RM 100.0 PL NET 25 FM Federal
166.30000 RM 100.0 PL NET 26 FM Federal
166.20000 RM 100.0 PL NET 27 FM Federal
163.17500 RM 100.0 PL NET 28 FM Federal
169.55000 RM 100.0 PL NET 29 FM Federal
163.22500 RM 100.0 PL NET 30 FM Federal
170.10000 RM 100.0 PL NET 31 FM Federal
165.41250 RM 100.0 PL NET 32 FM Federal
169.55000 RM 100.0 PL NET 33 FM Federal
162.30000 RM 100.0 PL NET 34 FM Federal
163.12500 RM 131.8 PL NET 35 FM Federal
170.72500 RM 100.0 PL NET 36 FM Federal
165.68750 RM 100.0 PL NET 37 FM Federal
166.12500 RM 100.0 PL NET 38 FM Federal
165.23750 RM 100.0 PL NET 39 FM Federal
165.23750 RM 100.0 PL NET 40 FM Federal
165.68750 RM 100.0 PL NET 41 FM Federal
165.51250 RM 100.0 PL NET 42 FM Federal
165.23750 RM 94.8 PL NET 43 FM Federal
162.66250 RM 100.0 PL NET 44 FM Federal
165.43750 RM 156.7 PL NET 45 FM Federal
164.10000 RM 100.0 PL NET 46 FM Federal
165.23750 RM 100.0 PL NET 47 FM Federal
169.41250 RM 100.0 PL NET 48 FM Federal
165.68750 RM 100.0 PL NET 49 FM Federal
162.25000 RM 100.0 PL NET 50 FM Federal
163.30000 RM 100.0 PL NET 51 FM Federal
165.23750 RM 100.0 PL NET 52 FM Federal
166.46250 M CSQ DHS INTEROP FM Federal
166.46250 M CSQ DHS COMMON FM Federal
163.12500 M 100.0 PL TAC FM Federal
164.60000 M 100.0 PL TAC FM Federal
165.41250 M 100.0 PL TAC FM Federal
165.73750 M 100.0 PL TAC FM Federal
169.45000 M 100.0 PL TAC FM Federal
169.55000 M 100.0 PL TAC FM Federal

ecps92 · #8 (**permalink**) 05-20-2009, 08:22 AM

No need to cut-n-paste the whole list [PS 100.0 Hz has been replaced by P25 in most of the Country]

2006 Chris Parris List [Replace 100.0 with P25 in most Areas]
2007 CP MT Update [Again most 100.0 has been replaced with P25]

The OP needs to be more specific on what he has programmed so we can help him out.

I can say I programmed in some FBI Channel [167.5625] and I hear nothing. True. This is a Simplex Only and rarely used, except on a major OP/Surv.

As others have attempted too, his Antenna, Exact Location and what he has programmed [PL, DPL, NO PL, P25 Only] will help us help him.

[Bill, putting in for his Dentistry Merit Badge, after this one]

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Originally Posted by signal500

VPD,

Here are some frequencies to program in. Search 162-174 MHz and 406-420 MHz also.

U.S. Customs & Border Protection (CBP)

Frequency Type Tone Alpha Tag Description Mode Tag
165.23750 RM 100.0 PL NET 1 FM Federal
169.45000 RM 100.0 PL NET 2 FM Federal
169.45000 M 100.0 PL TAC FM Federal
169.55000 M 100.0 PL TAC FM Federal

SOFA_KING · #9 (**permalink**) 05-20-2009, 08:54 AM

Well now I can understand why he is not hearing anything. Essex County with a non-digital hand-held scanner using a "stock" rubber duck antenna in a region that has converted to nearly 100% digital will get you next to nothing.

If you really want to hear fed coms, get a digital scanner and a good antenna (like a discone or Niljon Super-M). Get it above the roof in the clear and use the best coax you can get. If you are near major VHF transmitters you may need a filter. Put the common freqs from the Wiki links in and you should hear something. As Bill said, search the gov bands to find other active freqs. A newer scanner with NAC decode will help to identify who you are listening to.

Without that, you are wasting your time and will hear next to nothing.

Phil