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08-25-2009, 12:18 AM
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B.i.a.
I am lost on where else to look for the BIA frequencies. Out here in Wyoming on the Wind river indian reservation we have the BIA police. On the back of some vehicles they say Federal police. i have been searching for months and maybe I am looking in all of the wrong places. Are they going to be under Federal Freq's or like a local?
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08-25-2009, 12:49 AM
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The Bureau of Indian Affairs, part of the Department of the Interior, does have some allocated federal frequencies, but they often show up on frequencies in the public safety bands or even on business frequencies. There does not seem to be a set standard for the BIA to operate on, just whatever works for them. Sometimes they piggyback on local or state law enforcement channels.
If they are using federal allocations, try one of these:
34.780
36.180
38.970
38.980
40.010
40.030
40.050
40.310
40.330
40.370
40.410
40.430
40.850
40.990
41.140
41.350
41.630
41.770
162.0250
163.0250
163.0750
163.1250
163.1500
163.1750
164.2500
164.4250
164.5750
164.6250
164.6750
164.7250
164.7500
164.7750
164.8000
164.8625
165.3375
165.6875
165.7125
166.2750
166.3000
166.3250
166.3750
166.6125
166.6375
166.7250
166.8000
166.8500
166.8750
166.9000
166.9250
166.9750
167.0250
167.0750
167.1250
167.1500
168.2750
168.3000
168.3250
168.3750
168.4750
168.5000
168.5250
168.6250
168.8000
169.1250
169.1500
169.1750
169.4000
169.5500
169.6250
169.7000
169.7750
169.8000
170.0750
170.1000
171.1500
171.6250
171.6500
171.7000
171.7250
171.7500
171.7750
172.0250
172.1000
172.3000
172.4250
172.4500
172.5250
172.6000
172.6250
172.6750
172.7000
172.7250
172.7500
172.7750
172.8500
173.7625
406.4750
408.0750
408.4750
408.5250
408.6250
408.7250
408.7750
411.6250
411.6500
411.6750
411.7250
411.7750
411.8500
411.8750
412.1750
412.2750
412.3750
414.8250
414.8750
415.0250
416.0250
417.3750
417.4000
417.6750
417.8500
419.6500
419.8500
419.9500
419.9750
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08-25-2009, 02:40 AM
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Have you tried these?
Shoshone & Arpaho Tribes
155.00250 WQIZ715 BMPublic Safety (I'm thinking this should be 155.025, but the FCC listing RR shows is .0025 as well)
156.18000 WQIZ715 RMPublic Safety Multi-Dispatch
156.19500 WQIZ715 BMPublic Safety Multi-Talk
These all look like they would cover that area from Boysen Peaks on the North to just north of Wind River (Ft. Washakie) on the Southwest
Fremont County, Wyoming (WY) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference
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08-25-2009, 03:09 AM
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.0025 is correct, narrowband FM.
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08-25-2009, 10:47 AM
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Mick, this is from a Mobile radio I believe was previously used by B.I.A. in the midwest:
> CH RX TX PL was 3B
> 1. 166.000 166.000
> 2. 167.100 167.100
> 3. 166.4625 166.4625
> 4. 166.000 167.100
> 5. 166.000 163.125
> 6. 166.000 164.100
> 7. 164.100 166.200
> 8. 166.4375 165.2375
> 9. 167.100 BLANK
> 10. 167.100 BLANK
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08-25-2009, 11:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 10-95
Mick, this is from a Mobile radio I believe was previously used by B.I.A. in the midwest:
> CH RX TX PL was 3B
> 1. 166.000 166.000
> 2. 167.100 167.100
> 3. 166.4625 166.4625
> 4. 166.000 167.100
> 5. 166.000 163.125
> 6. 166.000 164.100
> 7. 164.100 166.200
> 8. 166.4375 165.2375
> 9. 167.100 BLANK
> 10. 167.100 BLANK
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This looks more like a Tresury Dept radio with old IRS and US Customs in it.
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08-25-2009, 11:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SOFA_KING
This looks more like a Tresury Dept radio with old IRS and US Customs in it.
Phil 
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It very well could be , I had it saved on my computer as B.I.A.-MW, which I recall
meaning it was from a Mid west BIA radio, but I may have screwed up an labeled it incorrectly. Anyway, somebody let us know what you hear on these...
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08-25-2009, 11:55 AM
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You are right Phil the 3B aka 131.8 Hz PL answers that one
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Originally Posted by SOFA_KING
This looks more like a Tresury Dept radio with old IRS and US Customs in it.
Phil 
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08-25-2009, 12:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ecps92
You are right Phil the 3B aka 131.8 Hz PL answers that one 
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Yep, Bill. How are you? I'm hanging in here (barely).
It is very interesting to see how this was programmed. The 163.1250 in that channel plan was a surprise to me. I also logged something in NYC on that with 131.8 on it. Could it have been? Neat stuff!
I'm watching 166.0000 with a sharp eye. I was picking up some distant, but strong enough for solid copy ,P25 with half encrypted traffic and half clear traffic on it a couple of weeks ago. NAC 001 every time. This could have been the IRS with that NAC. These frequencies need to be watched!
Phil 
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08-25-2009, 01:20 PM
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These frequencys came out of an analog only Astro Saber I purchased at fed auction and I have went back
and found the original codeplug and it is indeed IRS/Treasury.They may very well be using the same layout now, just P25.
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08-25-2009, 02:17 PM
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Around here, 163.1250 is an input to US-ACE, so it was likely not used here in New England.
The last Activity on those channels [3B] was late 90's here.
Wasn't there a REORG and many of the functions moved into/under
Treasury OIG?
I have them at 164.5375R / 172.6375 in
Been busy, weekend Mtn Top trips, finding new and exciting FED's.
New one up here 150.6250 S P25 / $293 still trying to ID who they are.
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Originally Posted by SOFA_KING
Yep, Bill. How are you? I'm hanging in here (barely).
It is very interesting to see how this was programmed. The 163.1250 in that channel plan was a surprise to me. I also logged something in NYC on that with 131.8 on it. Could it have been? Neat stuff!
I'm watching 166.0000 with a sharp eye. I was picking up some distant, but strong enough for solid copy ,P25 with half encrypted traffic and half clear traffic on it a couple of weeks ago. NAC 001 every time. This could have been the IRS with that NAC. These frequencies need to be watched!
Phil 
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