RadioReference on Facebook   RadioReference on Twitter   RadioReference Blog
 

Go Back   The RadioReference.com Forums > Site Administration Forums > Forums Administration


Forums Administration For administrative questions about the forums or problems with its use. Before you ask, did you read here first?

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 01-21-2013, 12:14 PM
Member
  Premium Subscriber
Premium Subscriber
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: St. Louis County, MO
Posts: 1,366
Default Script Errors when browsing any forum

Hi All,

My script errors have returned. They appear when I'm broswing the forums so I posted here in the Forums Admin forum instead of the sytem wide forum even though it may be a connectivity issue.

I've been getting a lot of Windows pop up's when browsing the forums using IE8 and the latest patches.

I think I started noticing these errors or warnings about the same time the security advisory came out to disable or remove Java (javascript?).
I did not ever change anything with my Java and am now using the latest Java 7 build 11 although I saw the same errors before build 11 was installed. I guess I was using ver 7b10 when I first saw the error window.

The windows popup says: "Stop running this script?"
Then below that: "A script on this page is causing your web browser to run slowly. If it continues to run, your computer might become unresponsive".

Then I'm given a choice of Yes or No. I've always selected No and let the script continue and the forum pages do display fine.
As soon as I browse to another forum or a thread in the current forum, the chances are good that I may see the script warning again.
Yesterday I did not see any script errors but today I've noticed they are back. I saw them while browsing the forums today while at work and again when I came home. So it's not something with my actual internet connection as work uses DSL and I'm on 100 Mb cable at home. The common thing is both browsers are IE8 on Windows 7.

Did something change with the forums at RR when the java or javascript advisory came out last week that may be causing these warnings?
I can't say I've ever received the same warning or error in all my years of browsing the forums here before. They just started one day last week and I'd not made any changes on my end at work or at home at that time.
I do think a Microsoft security patch may have been released out of band though that could be the cause. I'll investigate that and see if I can see what was patched over the last week and maybe uninstall it if allowed and try and reproduce the forum script error popup.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 01-21-2013, 12:25 PM
Member
  Premium Subscriber
Premium Subscriber
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 798
Default

I'm seeing that as well..

Fairly new, last couple of weeks maybe? I haven't seen it before either.

Same popup script error message.

"A script on this page is causing your web browser to run slowly. If it continues to run, your computer might become unresponsive".

Very annoying to say the least.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 01-22-2013, 8:17 AM
DaveNF2G's Avatar
Member
  Premium Subscriber
Premium Subscriber
Amateur Radio Operator
Amateur Radio
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Waterford, NY
Posts: 5,841
Send a message via Yahoo to DaveNF2G
Default

I was getting those errors, plus an Object error that totally locked up IE8 on all sorts of websites. Disabling Java had no effect, nor did any other suggested tactic I tried.

Solution? I use Firefox now.
__________________
David T. Stark
NF2G WQMY980 KYR7128
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 01-22-2013, 6:18 PM
Dude111's Avatar
Member
   
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 237
Default

Disabling java wont do anything as this site doesnt use java!!

DISABLING JAVASCRIPT MIGHT WORK!!! (And the site will be much faster as a result) I always have them disabled (as much as possible anyway)

Good luck
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 01-22-2013, 10:35 PM
Member
  Premium Subscriber
Premium Subscriber
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: St. Louis County, MO
Posts: 1,366
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dude111 View Post
Disabling java wont do anything as this site doesnt use java!!

DISABLING JAVASCRIPT MIGHT WORK!!! (And the site will be much faster as a result) I always have them disabled (as much as possible anyway)

Good luck
I know how to get rid of Java but how do you disable javascript?

edit: I figured out how to turn off javascript so ignore that question.As you said, this site does not appear to use javascript anyway so while figuring out how to disable it, I stumbled across the setting to disable &quot;Active Scripting&quot; under the Security tab and then the Internet Zone. I selected custom settings and scrolled near the end of the list to the &quot;Scripting&quot; section. The very first item is &quot;Active Scripting&quot; and the last item is Javascript. Disabling javascripting did not do anything here or at weather underground. But... setting Active Scripting to Disable sure did fix things. No script errors here or at Weather Underground. But... you lose a lot of basic functionality when Active Scripting is disabled. For example, at WU when you hover over a menu button, it normally expands and shows you the sub-menu choices. With active scripting disabled, you must now click the button and then a new page opens instead of the list of sub menus. So I must wade through the new page and hunt for the menu (hyperlink) I want.Here at RR when I select Quote to reply to your post or when I hit Edit just now, the original quoted text that you typed is no longer displayed in a formatted fashion. Instead, your quoted text displays with all the HTML codes as well. When I submit my message and am returned to the forum, then everything does display as it should.And yes, turning that off does really speed things up but it sure messes things up for pages or sites that use active scripting. Note that this is not the same thing as activex.Nor is it related to javascript.So from this finding, I've concluded that something, be it a Microsoft update or something else, has messed with active scripting and that is what is causing these script errors I've been seeing lately.RR seems to run fine so far with active scripting disabled other than the HTML code being shown when you quote a post during a reply.I think I'll try browsing a few days with active scripting disabled and see how many sites it really messes up.I wish I could find what changed that started these errors in the first place though as most sites sure are easier to navigate with active scripting enabled.I assume a site that does use javascript would act the same and disabling javascript would also fix those sites but maybe break things like speed tests and the like.Here at RR, you can set Active Scripting to Prompt and it sure prompts the heck out of you when you go to quote and reply to a forum post.And the settings in IE that are supposed to not display script errors and messages do not do anything. Mine were already disabled anyway. I may try and enable the one for debugging and see if I can figure out what part of an active script is causing the problem. Not sure they will show up though.</p>

Last edited by kruser; 01-22-2013 at 11:07 PM..
Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 01-22-2013, 11:11 PM
Member
  Premium Subscriber
Premium Subscriber
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: KS
Posts: 108
Default

1.Open your Internet Explorer browser window.
2.Go to the menu and click on TOOLS(Alt+x)
3.Choose Internet Options.
Once you open the Internet Options then
4.Click the Security Tab.
Now here is the trick. The Zones. By default the Internet Zone is selected. So if you proceed further you would be able to disable Javascript on websites that are live on internet. (What you want.) If you are developing / testing on local files then it would still be working.
5. Choose Custom Level and Scroll down till you find the Scripting Option.
6.On Active Scripting Radio Button choose Disable.
Hope this helps.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 01-23-2013, 12:21 AM
Member
  Premium Subscriber
Premium Subscriber
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: St. Louis County, MO
Posts: 1,366
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thagewood View Post
1.Open your Internet Explorer browser window.
2.Go to the menu and click on TOOLS(Alt+x)
3.Choose Internet Options.
Once you open the Internet Options then
4.Click the Security Tab.
Now here is the trick. The Zones. By default the Internet Zone is selected. So if you proceed further you would be able to disable Javascript on websites that are live on internet. (What you want.) If you are developing / testing on local files then it would still be working.
5. Choose Custom Level and Scroll down till you find the Scripting Option.
6.On Active Scripting Radio Button choose Disable.
Hope this helps.
Read my edit and that is exactly what I did.Trouble is, a lot of things on many sites no longer display correctly or buttons that open automatically when hovered over no longer open. When you click those buttons, you would think the original menu would then still open but that is not usually the case depending on how the site was coded.The good thing is no more script errors and sites do run much faster. Another drawback is that Flash Player no longer works when Active Scripting is disabled.Even though there is a section for active X controls, they still seem to be tied in with active scripting.I tried turning on script debugging but as I figured, it does not display anything when a script warning comes up that says a script is causing your browser to run slowly.Whatever is in the scripts that cause the pages to display slowly and then popup the script warning still work as the debugger does not catch whatever it is that causes the popup.At least I now know how to get rid of the warnings but at the cost of a page that may no longer work or display as it should.The only thing I've found for sure that disabling Active Scripting breaks is flash based pages such as some speedtest sites use. I assume Java based pages and speedtests will no longer work with active scripting disabled also.Whatever the cause is, it sure is a bugger to try and track down because disabling active scripting appears to turn off many things.

edit: with active scripting disabled, my reply above did not format as I had typed it. I had spaces between several of the sentences for easier reading but when I posted my reply, the spaces have been stripped. I had to turn on active scripting to add a space between my post and this edit.

Last edited by kruser; 01-23-2013 at 12:25 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 01-23-2013, 9:57 AM
Member
  Premium Subscriber
Premium Subscriber
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: KS
Posts: 108
Default

Have you tried to disable Script Debugging. You should also uncheck Display a Notification of Every Script Error.

Instructions
1.Open Internet Explorer and go to “Tools.” . (Press Alt+ X)

2. In the “Tools” menu, go to “Internet Options.”

3.Click on the “Advanced” tab. Under “Browsing,” make sure that “Disable Script Debugging” is checked and “Display a Notification of Every Script Error” is unchecked.

4.Restart Internet Explorer. If you are still getting script errors, go to “Start” and select “Run” or \"Start Search.\" Type \"regedit\" in the dialog box.

5.Find the key “HKEY_CURRENT_USER\\Software\\Microsoft\\Internet Explorer\\Styles.” Right-click on that, hover over “New” and select “D Word Value.” Name it “MaxScriptStatements.”

6.Leave the default value of “0X000000000,” and you should be rid of the errors for good.

Just a thought. Keep me posted I hope this works for you.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 01-23-2013, 11:33 PM
Member
  Premium Subscriber
Premium Subscriber
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: St. Louis County, MO
Posts: 1,366
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by thagewood View Post
Have you tried to disable Script Debugging. You should also uncheck Display a Notification of Every Script Error.

5.Find the key “HKEY_CURRENT_USER\\Software\\Microsoft\\Internet Explorer\\Styles.” Right-click on that, hover over “New” and select “D Word Value.” Name it “MaxScriptStatements.”

6.Leave the default value of “0X000000000,” and you should be rid of the errors for good.

Just a thought. Keep me posted I hope this works for you.
I think the first settings that can be checked or unchecked from within IE are already disabled by default these days. Mine all were anyway.

But, I was not aware of the registry hack. That did work so thanks for that!
It appears the registry setting just keeps the script window from popping up as the scripts are obviously still running when you time how long some pages take to load before you regain control of the mouse. Compare that to the same page load times with Active Scripting disabled and there is a huge difference in load times.
With all that said, I'd much rather have the page load correctly and just wait a bit longer for the script to do whatever it is or is not doing than see the stupid warnings! Turning off Active Scripting just breaks too much stuff on a lot of sites that it really is not worth doing it in my opinion. So your method of hiding the popup is a better method as long as I store that in a document so I can restore the setting should I ever need to see the popup warnings again!

Now if I could ever find the root cause of this. Something changed over the past month or so is my best guess of when I started seeing the frequent script warnings.
I uninstalled Java and Flash and then visited a site that was throwing many of the script errors and it still did it even with flash and java gone so I must think it is not related to either of those applications or controls. I guess it could still be a javascript thing as I think uninstalling Java does not get rid of javascript. Of course IE does have a check box to disable what appears to be javascript and even with that disabled, my test sites still threw out the same amount of the script warning popup windows.

My best guess is some Microsoft update or patch that was applied within the past month or so. I only went back to an out of band security patch that was installed on 12/20/2012 I think. I removed it and everything newer including all the .NET stuff but still had the script warnings.
I may try that again but go back into Novembers patch Tuesday.
Then there are some security updates or patches that cannot be removed. I don't think those even show up in the list in Win 7 when you view the list of updates that can be removed. I think they can only be seen when you view your update history. It's very possible a patch that cannot be removed is responsible.
I see the same thing at work and at home both on XP and Win 7 machines.
That darn .NET stuff takes forever to remove also so I doubt I'll remove any of that stuff if I decide to try and find the root cause again. Since my attempt at finding the cause did not help, I let all the security patches reinstall being as they did not fix anything when I removed them.

At least your registry key addition does keep the stupid warning popup from displaying so the page will eventually load instead of getting stuck waiting for you to ACK the script warnings as they pop up!

Thanks for sharing that registry tidbit as it does work even though the pages with slow scripts still take as long to load had you not added the registry value.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 01-24-2013, 4:47 PM
Highpockets's Avatar
Member
  Shack Photos
Shack photos
Premium Subscriber
Premium Subscriber
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Toms River, New Jersey
Posts: 3,709
Send a message via AIM to Highpockets
Default

About a week ago, I started to see a problem with scripts something to do with portalv2.php, that's what the error page tells me. I have no clue if this is part of what's going on. The forums have really slowed down since this started, but as much as I know about computers this could have nothing to do with what's going on. I'm using IE8 also and have the latest Windows updates.
__________________
Steve
BC785D ~ BCD396XT ~ BCD996XT ~ PSR600
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 01-28-2013, 6:38 PM
Member
  Premium Subscriber
Premium Subscriber
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Hudson NH
Posts: 152
Default

I dont know if this is related but I am using a Mac with Mountain Lion OS and am having problems with Radio Reference also. It seems I have to click on the safari toolbar twice to get a page or link to load.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 01-28-2013, 7:48 PM
trsundstrom's Avatar
Mentor
  Premium Subscriber
Premium Subscriber
Amateur Radio Operator
Amateur Radio
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Burlington County, NJ
Posts: 1,016
Default

Wirelessly posted (Moto Droid Bionic: Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 4.0.4; en-us; DROID BIONIC Build/6.7.2-223_DBN_M4-23) AppleWebKit/534.30 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile Safari/534.30)

It might be an IE thing? FWIW Win7 updates had installed IE9 on my Asus eee-pc1018. I found that out today by chance while talking with Schwab tech support when trying to figure out what Oracle did with the latest Java 7u11 "fix." Java broke Google Chrome on Schwab, finally got it working it working in IE9.

RR works well in Chrome for me, faster than IE or FF. But then I prefer to use the smartphone on RR's mobile site.

I love computera :-/

HTH.
__________________
Tom - W2XQ - w2xq.com
RS PRO-2041 & PRO-106
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 5:38 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
All information here is Copyright 2012 by RadioReference.com LLC and Lindsay C. Blanton III.Ad Management by RedTyger
Copyright 2011 by RadioReference.com LLC Privacy Policy  |  Terms and Conditions