List of ALL FCC 154mhz Fire Freqs ?

[billpritjr]

Hello

Somewhere in internet land there used to be a list of all FCC allotments for Fire Department use. something like this:

154.19 - Fire
154.21 - Fire
154.23 - Fire
etc etc

then it would go to 155's

154.725 - Police
154.95 - Police

etc

does anyone have such a list anywhere ?

Thank you

 

[KB7MIB]

Several years back, all of the different public safety frequencies were put into a pool. There aren't specific fire or police frequencies any more. Any agency can use any of the public safety pool frequencies. Try googling Part 90 public safety pool allocations.

John
Peoria, AZ

 

[nd5y]

90.20 Public Safety Pool

 

[ofd8001]

"Back in the day" the FCC would allocate frequencies to different services as noted above. As time went along demand for frequencies increased but the number of frequencies was finite. So it wouldn't be unusual for a fire department to be coordinated/licensed for a non-fire frequency.

 

[spdfile1]

90.20 Public Safety Pool

The above link has a list of all the Public Safety Frequencies that were categorized by usage type. So what that said all of the frequencies listed as "PF" were fire. However it wasn't steadfast like other people have said. That's how the old FCC lookup database used to be categorized was by the those codes. "P" stood for Public Safety and then the second letter was type within Public Safety. So "F" was Fire, "P" was Police, "S" was E.M.S. & School Buses, "H" was Highway Maint., "M" was Medical (like the Telemetry Freq.'s), "O" was State Park Police and Conservation type PD & "X" was really any of the above. When I used to look up Railroad Frequencies they were under "LR" which was Local Government Railroad. I prefer the old system because it was more specific and if you heard something on a particular frequency you had a 99.9% chance of knowing what agency type was using it

 

[nd5y]

So what that said all of the frequencies listed as "PF" were fire. However it wasn't steadfast like other people have said.

Back before the FCC changed their system in the 1990s it was steadfast. Each radio service code represented a separate radio service with separate eligibility requirements. Now the old codes only indicate the frequency coordinator.

When I used to look up Railroad Frequencies they were under "LR" which was Local Government Railroad.

No, the old service codes that started with L were land transportation, not local goverment.

 

[N9JIG]

These are the freqs that were historically part of the Fire and Police Radio Services before the PF, PL, PS, PP and PH pools were merged into the single pool PW. While any PW freq can now be assigned there is still some tendency for these freqs to stay as Fire assignments. Also shown is the nominal assignment types. These didn't always end up as such, famously 153.770 was a repeater in Chicago and 153.890 was a repeater in Lake County IL.

These assignments predated the 7.5 KHz. interstitials and even before they were officially merged it was common for interservice sharing to occur. Also, Local Government channels were often co-opted by police or fire operations.


153.770 (Mob)
153.830 (10 watts)
153.890 (Mob)
153.950 (Mob)
154.010 (Mob)
154.070
154.130
154.145
154.160
154.175
154.190
154.205
154.220
154.235
154.250
154.265 (Intersystem)
154.280 (Intersystem)
154.295 (Intersystem)
154.310
154.325
154.340
154.355
154.370
154.385
154.400
154.415
154.430
154.445

Later 150.775, 150.790 and 150.805 were commonly assigned to Fire use but I think officially they were actually EMS channels in the PS category.

Police assigned channels included the following:

154.650 (Mob)
154.665 (State Use)
154.680 (State Use)
154.695 (State Use)
154.710 (Mob)
154.725
154.740
154.755
154.770 (Mob)
154.785
154.800
154.815
154.830 (Mob)
154.845
154.860
154.875
154.890 (Mob)
154.905 (State Use)
154.920 (State Use)
154.935 (State Use)
154.950 (Mob)
155.010
155.070
155.130
155.190
155.250
155.310
155.370 (Intersystem in some parts of the midwest)
155.430
155.445 (State Use)
155.460 (State Use)
155.475 (Intersystem)
155.490
155.505 (State Use)
155.520
155.535
155.550
155.565
155.580
155.595
155.610
155.625
155.640
155.655
155.670
155.685
155.700
155.730
155.790
155.850 (Mob)
155.910 (Mob)
155.970 (Mob)
156.030 (Mob)
156.090 (Mob)
156.150 (Mob)
156.210
158.730
158.790
158.850 (Mob)
158.910 (Mob)
158.970 (Mob)
159.030 (Mob)
159.090
159.150
159.210

There were also a smattering of PS (Medical and school buses etc.), highway, forestry and Local Government assignments.

 

[bb911]

NIFOG May 2015: http://hflink.com/standards/National_Interoperability_Field_Operations_Guide_May_2015.pdf

 

[nd5y]

NIFOG May 2015: http://hflink.com/standards/National_Interoperability_Field_Operations_Guide_May_2015.pdf

This thread has nothing to do with NIFOG and you didn't even link to the current version.

 

[TexScan780D]

The NIFOG May 2015, is there an update?

 

[nd5y]

The NIFOG May 2015, is there an update?

Yes.
https://www.dhs.gov/publication/fog-documents

 

[TexScan780D]

Thanks nd5y.

 

[spdfile1]

Correct. I stand corrected

Back before the FCC changed their system in the 1990s it was steadfast. Each radio service code represented a separate radio service with separate eligibility requirements. Now the old codes only indicate the frequency coordinator.

No, the old service codes that started with L were land transportation, not local goverment.

 

[N9JIG]

PL was local Government channels, Lx were Transportation (LR was railroads etc.)

Off the top of my head the codes that make up the PW group now included:

PP Police
PF Fire
PL Local Government
PS Special Emergency
PH Highway
PM Medical (Split from PS)
PS Special Emergency
PO Conservation
PC Public Coast

 

[TexScan780D]

Remember Police Call book. The publication had FCC frequency allocation table. I sue do messed Police Call.