Two New Frequencies for GMRS - Page 2

quarterwave · #21 (**permalink**) 03-04-2013, 11:14 AM

Well, since the link doesn't work, and these are known guard bands, I will hold off on the party horns.

Even if they do issue these, how long with it take Radio Shack, Cobra, Midland, Uniden and Motorola to lobby the FCC to allow them to put the NEW "GMRS" channels in their combo radios so they can be used illegally? About 8 minutes, I project.

I was working with a customer the other day, and I noticed a nice set of 6 Uniden Combo radios on a desk. I grabbed one and fired it up. Sure enough they are on FRS 1 with PL code 1. I asked if they used them much (they had just moved in the building) and the guy said not yet. And I told him he might want to put them on another FRS channel (And explained he should not use the GMRS channels and why) because his competition down the road (whom I also service) uses FRS 1 / PL 1. LOL!

N5AMS · #22 (**permalink**) 03-04-2013, 2:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by div3405

Well many of you laughed at me when I said there were a new set of frequencies coming from the FCC for GMRS.

When they went to narrow banding four new frequencies came up at either end of the GMR spectrum that are now authorized to be used.

462.5375
467.5375
462.7375
467.7375

Confirmed here:

Spectrum Dashboard - Reboot.FCC.gov

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The link is dead

nd5y · #23 (**permalink**) 03-04-2013, 2:52 PM

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Originally Posted by N5AMS

The link is dead

Try this
Spectrum Dashboard - Reboot.FCC.gov
It's like an interactive version of part of the US frequency allocation chart.
Under Radio Service select GMRS or click the GMRS bands on the chart then click Search.
It shows the upper and lower band limits. The previous poster erroneously thinks those are new frequencies.

Jimru · #24 (**permalink**) 03-04-2013, 3:02 PM

I smell a troll here, guys. OP posted this same thing in 2010.

div3405 · #25 (**permalink**) 03-07-2013, 1:46 PM

Try this site:

Go to the page 28

Jimru · #26 (**permalink**) 03-07-2013, 3:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by div3405

Try this site:

Go to the page 28

Interesting. I apologize to you, sir.

quarterwave · #27 (**permalink**) 03-07-2013, 3:57 PM

The link: http://transition.fcc.gov/oet/spectr...e/fcctable.pdf

I still don't think that means they are adding those channels, I think it refers to the very edge of the band with modulation from the center of the adjacent frequency 462.5375->462.5500 is the last center.

I could be wrong, but usually they are more clear about what is being added or removed, this appears to be more of a chart of bands. A color coded table would be better, we used to have one NABER put out back in the day, hanging in our M shop.

robertmac · #28 (**permalink**) 03-08-2013, 12:26 AM

I guess the FRS/GMRS frequencies are now so overloaded new ones need to be added, if that is the case? I doubt their really is a need.

SteveC0625 · #29 (**permalink**) 03-08-2013, 1:48 AM

None of the Part 95 sections that actually describe the specific GMRS (and MURS and FRS) Tx and Rx frequencies show any changes or amendments in several years. There's no new channels listed.

balibago · #30 (**permalink**) 03-08-2013, 8:44 PM

These new channels will come in handy to stay in touch with my children at a busy shopping mall or to keep track of busy senior citizens as they go from pharmacy to pharmacy in search of the best deals on generics. Maybe we could have a GMRS FRS version of Obama phone on it. Use the new frequencies for democratic community organizers to stay in touch in the community.

gewecke · #31 (**permalink**) 03-09-2013, 7:45 AM

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Originally Posted by balibago

These new channels will come in handy to stay in touch with my children at a busy shopping mall or to keep track of busy senior citizens as they go from pharmacy to pharmacy in search of the best deals on generics. Maybe we could have a GMRS FRS version of Obama phone on it. Use the new frequencies for democratic community organizers to stay in touch in the community.

There aren't any new frs or gmrs frequencies meaning there is a total of 22 usable frequencies depending on if you're licensed or not.
Politicians are probably the LAST people most of us would want to hear on the air.

73,
n9zas

ecps92 · #32 (**permalink**) 03-09-2013, 8:43 AM

Amazing the damage a Troll can do. Worse than Animals and Children.

Mabye it's time for a moderator to step in and close the thread, as no one is listening to the facts

Quote:

Originally Posted by gewecke

There aren't any new frs or gmrs frequencies meaning there is a total of 22 usable frequencies depending on if you're licensed or not.
Politicians are probably the LAST people most of us would want to hear on the air.

73,
n9zas

rapidcharger · #33 (**permalink**) 03-09-2013, 10:43 AM

This thread is up to two pages?

Good grief.

Dantian · #34 (**permalink**) 03-09-2013, 4:49 PM

The FCC already has two pending proceedings on GMRS, I don't think they are going to add a third one. Not if they have any sense.

And they already got egg on their beard years ago when they restricted the 675 channel as only for use in emergencies and traveler assistance. They yanked that restriction back the same year (1999).

Hopefully nobody has filed a petition to allocate GMRS channels to Homeland Security. But I suppose stranger things have happened.

div3405 · #35 (**permalink**) 03-15-2013, 2:07 PM

Well Ladies and Gentlemen!!!

I have finally gotten the right information from the FCC which states:

"If you look at Part 2, 2.106 Table of Frequency Allocations, The Personal Radio (Part95) is listed as 462.5375- 462.7375. Thus it is trying to indicate that the frequency marks the band edge of the GMRS band of frequencies but because it is at the band edge it can not be used. Any attempts to operate on this frequency would throw out of the permitted GMRS band."

So I have been wrong the whole time!

My apology for been human and getting everyone's hopes up.

Jimru · #36 (**permalink**) 03-15-2013, 8:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by div3405

Well Ladies and Gentlemen!!!

I have finally gotten the right information from the FCC which states:

"If you look at Part 2, 2.106 Table of Frequency Allocations, The Personal Radio (Part95) is listed as 462.5375- 462.7375. Thus it is trying to indicate that the frequency marks the band edge of the GMRS band of frequencies but because it is at the band edge it can not be used. Any attempts to operate on this frequency would throw out of the permitted GMRS band."

So I have been wrong the whole time!

My apology for been human and getting everyone's hopes up.

You are a human bean, indeed!

You did get some of us to think twice, some others knew all along that it could not be.

I'm one of the ones that thought twice. Hey at least you got me to think!

gewecke · #37 (**permalink**) 03-16-2013, 9:30 AM

Apology accepted.

73,
n9zas

KF4ZTO · #38 (**permalink**) 04-18-2013, 7:09 PM

Where exactly are all 15 of the GMRS + the 7 "FRS only" channels fully congested? 11-meter CB is congested. While in a large city you can hear activity on a handful of the channels for sure...saying the service is "congested" is a bit of a stretch don't you think?

Also, +1 to whoever said Part 95 services (which both GMRS and FRS fall under) aren't narrowbanding.

bill4long · #39 (**permalink**) 04-26-2013, 8:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by div3405

When they went to narrow banding four new frequencies came up at either end of the GMR spectrum that are now authorized to be used. 462.5375
467.5375, 462.7375, 467.7375

Absolutely false.

A) GMRS was not subject to narrow-banding.

B) The channels are explicitly specified in the regulations, as shown here:

Code of Federal Regulations

KB7MIB · #40 (**permalink**) 04-26-2013, 5:51 PM

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; U; en-US) Gecko/20081217 Vision-Browser/8.1 301x200 LG VN530)

This has already been settled if you look up a few posts. The OP admitted he was mistaken, and apologized.
Can this thread be closed now?