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Two New Frequencies for GMRS

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There is a proposal to add two frequencies to GMRS 462.7375
462.7500 which are to be used as the new Homeland Security Emergency Channels.

This is not confirmed at this time, but keep your ears to the ground.
 

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Any updates on this? I'm intrigued. I can't find anything obvious on the web about it.
 

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There is a proposal to add two frequencies to GMRS 462.7375
462.7500 which are to be used as the new Homeland Security Emergency Channels.

This is not confirmed at this time, but keep your ears to the ground.

More info??
n9zas
 

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Hmmm low power radios fighting Pagers - Nice try

There is a proposal to add two frequencies to GMRS 462.7375
462.7500 which are to be used as the new Homeland Security Emergency Channels.

This is not confirmed at this time, but keep your ears to the ground.
 

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Anyone can 'propose' anything.

I can 'propose' to the FCC that the whole 450-470 band should be turned into a mega-GMRS. Doesn't mean it's going to happen.

This 'proposal' is asking for business radio service channels to be reallocated to GMRS. Who 'pays' the FCC Commisioners more (somehow or other)? Buisness, or GMRS Radio Manufacturers?

Next: Homeland Insecurity Emergency Channels? Homeland Insecurity exists to protect the government from the citizens. It's a 'cop shop'. No interest in such things.

Now, if it's created: Who's going to enforce this 'special' channel? Not the FCC, they are trying desperately to DE-regulate GMRS so they can wash their hands of it. Why would a 'special' channel be needed? Designate one of the current ones, if you like.

Bear in mind that GMRS is NOT intended to be a 'chit chat' service for hobbiests, it's intended for family communications within a family. It was never intended as a place to call 'CQ'.
 

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Bear in mind that GMRS is NOT intended to be a 'chit chat' service for hobbiests, it's intended for family communications within a family.

Is this not "personal communications"? This IS what GMRS was designed for.:)
n9zas
 

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Interestingly, the FCC ULS only shows 3 licenses for 462.7375 in the whole US, all of them expired or terminated
 

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Why would homeland security want frequencies in the GMRS spectrum? Would citizens that hold a valid GMRS license be able to use the two new frequencies? I haven’t seen anything on the FCC's ULS that would indicate a request by DHS for these frequencies. This is more likely a rumor that builds credibility by getting more people to discuss it.
 

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Now, if it's created: Who's going to enforce this 'special' channel? Not the FCC, they are trying desperately to DE-regulate GMRS so they can wash their hands of it. Why would a 'special' channel be needed? Designate one of the current ones, if you like.

I guess the 'special' channel could be half-duplex only, citizens transmit on 467.xxx.......gov't transmits on 462.xxx...with no repeaters allowed....and transmitter disabled unless a valid GPS position can be sent.
(This is assuming a 467 channel is also in the rumor)

I don't see any local government agencies spending the money to set up base stations for this channel.

Therefore, I don't see this useful for reporting incidents relating to national security

On the other hand, temporary equipment brought in for disasters, such as Katrina could be set up
to listen for calls for help, when other means of communication are down.

As you said.......it would be easier to just designate an existing channel.......like channel 9 on the CB band was years ago.....Even then, when CB was as common as a cell phone is today, law enforcement lost interest in monitoring, and equipment was never replaced after the initial roll out.

I can 'propose' to the FCC that the whole 450-470 band should be turned into a mega-GMRS. Doesn't mean it's going to happen.
At one time that WAS the Citizen's Class A Band.
 

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Cheap GMRS radios proved useful in major disasters like Katrina, but getting FCC STA permissions to use them was overly complicated, especially when a mix of federal and local agencies were involved. There is also some indication of utility for people requesting help if all other infrastructure is out. This could be a way to have an extra frequency or two programmed in FRS/GMRS radios, licensed by rule, available to government as well as non-government, but able to work at higher power than FRS and not part of the general "chat pool" of frequencies (i.e. switching to it would require pressing a special button or something).

But all that is speculation unless div3405 posts more info!

For me the interesting thing is that 462.7375 seems to be an unused frequency. According to the FCC Spectrum Dashboard, it is listed as both part of FRS/GMRS and part of Industrial/Business. I wonder if there is concern about interference from GMRS?
 

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When I put my original GMRSrepeater on here in South Florida--it was a CLASS A Citizens Band station. I had three (3) licenses. One for the repeater, one for the control station, and one for the mobiles.
Three repeaters later--thanks to the Lords of Lightning--still use my system..
 

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Bear in mind that GMRS is NOT intended to be a 'chit chat' service for hobbiests, it's intended for family communications within a family.

Is this not "personal communications"? This IS what GMRS was designed for.:)
n9zas
GMRS was intended to be used by construction workers who stand in the road holding spinning stop signs on poles.

I swear this is all I hear on channel 1 during the summer
 

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GMRS was intended to be used by construction workers who stand in the road holding spinning stop signs on poles.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that's noticed this.

Imagine the legal ramifications if an accident was caused by a 3rd party interfering with this type of communication.

A case where the persons involved are wrong, except the injured.

Used to see the same thing 30 years ago.....before blister-packed GMRS/FRS radios.
The only thing different was they used a mobile CB radio wired to a car battery.
 

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GMRS was intended to be used by construction workers who stand in the road holding spinning stop signs on poles.

I swear this is all I hear on channel 1 during the summer

Yeah,yeah I know. :roll: I heard em' too.
n9zas
 

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Here are the new frequencies for GMRS

Well many of you laughed at me when I said there were a new set of frequencies coming from the FCC for GMRS.

When they went to narrow banding four new frequencies came up at either end of the GMR spectrum that are now authorized to be used.

462.5375
467.5375
462.7375
467.7375

Confirmed here:

Spectrum Dashboard - Reboot.FCC.gov
 

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I'm still laughing. Those aren't new frequencies, those are the band edges. You are not reading and interpreting the Spectrum Dashboard chart properly. The only frequencies authorized for GMRS use are listed at § 95.29 Channels available. Also GMRS isn't subject to narrowbanding.
 
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Four New Frequencies for GMRS

Well many of you laughed at me when I said there were a new set of frequencies coming from the FCC for GMRS.

When they went to narrow banding four new frequencies came up at either end of the GMR spectrum that are now authorized to be used.

462.5375
467.5375
462.7375
467.7375

Confirmed here:

Spectrum Dashboard - Reboot.FCC.gov[/QUOTE]
 

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I guess I'm guilty too. :lol:

There are STILL only 8 repeater outputs,and 8 inputs.

73,
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