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Old 02-17-2012, 8:32 AM
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Default can any of the Wouxun Radios work on MURS?

Just wondering if any Wouxun's will work on MURS?

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Check transmit frequency range the specifications.
If the radio transmits 136-174 MHz it will work on MURS.
Some Wouxun models only transmit on the 2 meter amateur band 144-148 MHz.

None of the Wouxun radios are certified for Part 95 so legally you cannot use them on MURS or GMRS.
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Check transmit frequency range the specifications.
If the radio transmits 136-174 MHz it will work on MURS.
Some Wouxun models only transmit on the 2 meter amateur band 144-148 MHz.

None of the Wouxun radios are certified for Part 95 so legally you cannot use them on MURS or GMRS.
thanks, yeah I know they are not part 95 legal, just wondering, in a SHTF scenario if my wouxun kg-uv3d could do it.
Specs say tx. 144-148 rx 136-174

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MURS frequencies are in the 151-154 range.
It will not transmit on MURS unless you have the software to unlock it, but if you are using it on GMRS you probably already did that.
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MURS frequencies are in the 151-154 range.
It will not transmit on MURS unless you have the software to unlock it, but if you are using it on GMRS you probably already did that.
gmrs is not legal either on these radios that I knew, just wondering incase of a SHTF type thing...


In a hypothetical SHTF type thing I wonder how far a radio with 5 watts would be able to talk to another 5 watt radio on the MURS freq.

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In a hypothetical SHTF type thing I wonder how far a radio with 5 watts would be able to talk to another 5 watt radio on the MURS freq.
There is no good anwser to that because there are too many variables that affect radio range. It depends on your surroundings, terrain, type of antennas used, operator skill and other things. Using VHF or UHF hand held radios with typical stock antennas and .5 to 5 watts your range should be anywhere from several hundred feet to 20 miles or more.
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There is no good anwser to that because there are too many variables that affect radio range. It depends on your surroundings, terrain, type of antennas used, operator skill and other things. Using VHF or UHF hand held radios with typical stock antennas and .5 to 5 watts your range should be anywhere from several hundred feet to 20 miles or more.
Hypothetically wouldn't the murs be able to go farther outdoors with 5 watts then the gmrs, because of the VHF doing better against trees and hills...etc (thats what I have read about vhf) then the uhf gmrs on 5 watts?

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People continually ask about HT radio range. The post above by ND5Y summarizes the best answer to the question and should probably be made a sticky on the Board. THERE IS NO HARD AND FAST ANSWER TO THE QUESTION. There are too many variables involved.
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People continually ask about HT radio range. The post above by ND5Y summarizes the best answer to the question and should probably be made a sticky on the Board. THERE IS NO HARD AND FAST ANSWER TO THE QUESTION. There are too many variables involved.
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Hypothetically wouldn't the murs be able to go farther outdoors with 5 watts then the gmrs, because of the VHF doing better against trees and hills...etc (thats what I have read about vhf) then the uhf gmrs on 5 watts?
It depends on your surroundings. Sometimes UHF might be better. Sometimes VHF might be better. Using hand helds there is generally not that much difference between 150 and 450 MHz.
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this model-KG-UVD1P does comply with fcc regs 47cfr part 2 (j) / ansi and ieee c95.1-1992 / icnirp 1998 exposure guide lines...and complies with fcc part 90 with directives 1995/5/ec compliances...it will do the murs freqs...ii have this dual band model and love it
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In my personal experience between 2 dual band HT's on simplex, at 2 miles apart, switching between VHF, & UHF, VHF worked better. Both radios never moved while switching between VHF, & UHF. One radio was at a 3rd story window, & one was at ground level. GARY N4KVE
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Just wondering if any Wouxun's will work on MURS?

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as others have mentioned it is illegal, But for a SHTF scenario it will work. I have the MURS, GMRS and FRS frequencies programmed in my Wouxun. Other than testing to make sure it works, I do not use this radio on those frequencies. I just like to have the capability in case of emergencies.
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as others have mentioned it is illegal, But for a SHTF scenario it will work. I have the MURS, GMRS and FRS frequencies programmed in my Wouxun. Other than testing to make sure it works, I do not use this radio on those frequencies. I just like to have the capability in case of emergencies.
The Wouxun dual-band portables are Part 90 approved however fwiw. A very convenient fact for hams who are also emergency responders...
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The Wouxun amateur radio dual-band portables are Part 90 approved however fwiw.
GMRS/FRS and MURS are part 95

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this model-KG-UVD1P does comply with fcc regs 47cfr part 2 (j) / ansi and ieee c95.1-1992 / icnirp 1998 exposure guide lines...and complies with fcc part 90 with directives 1995/5/ec compliances...it will do the murs freqs...ii have this dual band model and love it

So am I reading this right that the KG-UVD1P can be used?
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So am I reading this right that the KG-UVD1P can be used?
You don't seem to understand.
The KG-UVD1P, KG-UV2D, KG-UV3D and KG-UV6D each have various versions with different band splits.
Some of them only transmit in the amateur bands and need to be unlocked.
Some of them will not cover certain frequencies at all.
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You don't seem to understand.
The KG-UVD1P, KG-UV2D, KG-UV3D and KG-UV6D each have various versions with different band splits.
Some of them only transmit in the amateur bands and need to be unlocked.
Some of them will not cover certain frequencies at all.
Oh I understand, I own a KG-UVD1P and a KG-UV3D
I was asking if the KG-UVD1P was fcc compliant for murs?
Someone stated an FCC rule above.
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No, the radios are only Part 90 approved. MURS and GMRS are Part 95.
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Simple answer. they can tx/rx on murs and gmrs if you unlock them, pretty easy. Is it ok? The fcc says no. Do it at your own risk.
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