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Old 07-08-2014, 4:25 PM
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Can anyone confirm with me that I can program GMRS freqs into a "business" radio?
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Only if the radio is Part 95 compliant.
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Can anyone confirm with me that I can program GMRS freqs into a "business" radio?
Are you asking if it can be done or if it is legal to do so?

Yes, it can be done. Most UHF business radios that span the 462-467 MHz range could certainly be programmed with the GMRS frequencies.

However, the interstitials would likely be a "no-no" as they are 5 watt only for GMRS licensees.

And, unless the radio is Type Accepted for Part 95, it is not legal to do so any way.

I would suggest that you read over some of the many threads here in the GMRS/FRS subforum that deal with this exact topic. It has been discussed over and over and over and the answers are always the same. No sense in starting up the topic again after it has already been chewed upon for many years.
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Old 07-08-2014, 6:18 PM
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The FCC website has a list of Part 90 radios that may be legally used for Part 95 GMRS. On those you "can" and legally may, within the power limits etc.

I predict this thread goes at least 5 pages.
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YES
and who cares no body will check

(at least 3 pages)
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You can program the frequencies into anything but for transmitting, that's another story.
Technically to transmit, it must be part 95 certified. There is a sticky on top of this forum with a list of radios. A lot of people don't adhere to that rule for a number of reasons.
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Now if I got a HAM license, will I be able to talk on GMRS freqs on HAM radios?
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Now if I got a HAM license, will I be able to talk on GMRS freqs on HAM radios?
If you have a GMRS license you can talk on them with any radio that is part 95 accepted. Whether you have a ham license or not you still need a GMRS license.
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GMRS requires a separate license and radios with different certification than a ham radio.
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I already have a gmrs license
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I think what the OP is asking in his second question is if he got a ham license, could he use a 440 capable rig on GMRS as well. That's how I took it anyway.
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The short answer is no. Legally, the equipment would need to have part 95 certification to be used on the GMRS bands. Take regular business band LMR radios for example, Some are both part 90 and part 95 approved, while others are only part 90 approved. even though all of these radios technically can be programmed for GMRS use, "Technically" the ones that are not part 95 approved are not legal to use. Your best bet is to ask what type of radios you want to use, then we can figure out if they are type accepted for GMRS use.
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The more specific answer to your question is found in Section 95.655.

"…[Transmitters with frequency capability for the Amateru Radio Services and Military Affiliate Radio System will not be certificated.]"
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The even more specific answer is it's illegal the way carrying a pair of wirecutters is illegal in Texas.

We can argue about how many parts of Title 47 can dance on the head of a pin, but at the end of the day, the FCC still isn't ever going to bother sending out an RDF team to track down someone who is using a removable antenna on an FRS channel. They have whackers and radio pirates to deal with. :P
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