Needing clarification!!

[adamdavis]

Needing clarification on an idea. I am paying my 85.00 to use the GMRS bands, I can't find in the fcc regs where is addresses the use of these bands to using a paging system ie the 1/3 sec tone paging using Mot Minitors. Does FCC alow this on these frequencies?

[Moto_Jedi]

The GMRS is not intended for use in the manner you have described. You can read the actual part 95 rules at the link below to confirm that fact:

2005 CFR Title 47, Volume 5

[adamdavis]

What sections I thought it would address it, I didn't find it, could you specify the section(s) or quote it? I am not trying to prove other wise, just new to the GMRS concept and have alot to learn. I was questioning this concept of the pagine tones, as it would allow people to reach me while away from area and not have to pay for a "paging" service such as arch or american messaging etc.

[Moto_Jedi]

It is clearly stated in this section that voice paging only is permissable in GMRS. It states that certain types of subaudible tones may also be used, but only in conjunction with an actual voice transmission.

That GMRS is intended solely as a voice communications radio service is made clear throughout the entire text of the rules. Many people try to rationalize that because certain things (their pet projects, for example) are not specifically spelled out as not being allowed, then it must be OK, and that tends to be a very juvenile attitude.

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[adamdavis]

Understood I see the policy stating the use of tones. That if using tones greater than 300 Hz, then it must be followed with a voice transmission, so In my case the tone paging may be used only if a voice message follows the tones. For example (If understood right) I transmit tone sequence then follow with a message to call the office to transmit the next location employees are to meet that would be acceptable under FCC ruling correct?

[gewecke]

Do you also understand that gmrs is NOT intended for company or as a work channel? GMRS is a PERSONAL radio service,so "employees" are not what this service would be used for.
N9ZAS.

[adamdavis]

The above example was just that...... an example.......I am trying to learn the in's and out's of this radio system, PLEASE don't attack me, I came here for information on how to use the system right.

I just had the idea of using the 1/3 sec paging for members in a group in the event we would go to a theme park or swap meet as a way to communicate with out everyone having handhelds.

[N_Jay]

Originally Posted by adamdavis

the above example was just that...... An example.......i am trying to learn the in's and out's of this radio system, please don't attack me, i came here for information on how to use the system right.

I just had the idea of using the 1/3 sec paging for members in a group in the event we would go to a theme park or swap meet as a way to communicate with out everyone having handhelds.

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[gewecke]

Would a batch of good quality gmrs talkies help? They include the paging tones and would allow two way comms. Much more use than just a pager I would think.
N9ZAS.

[adamdavis]

I was looking at cost.......what would a good quality GMRS talkie run that would allow paging and two way comm?

[UPMan]

Note that the Uniden GMR2889 (and soon to be released GMR2872 and GMR2875) include an individual calling feature that allows you to have either an individual or all persons in your group's radio alert them to an incoming call intended for them. Their radio will display the calling person's name (well, 4-letter version of their name). If talking to an individual, all other radios within the group remain silent until the individual call is over.

We've actually had that feature on our high-end radios since 2004.

[trace1]

Well some of those cute little bubble-pack type of FRS/GMRS radios are loaded with a bunch of "calling", "paging" tones...

[adamdavis]

Yea.....liking the idea of having a 0.5 watt radio too:P........that everyone including their brother have, that you can't find a quiet channel on to save your life..........

[N2DLX]

Originally Posted by adamdavis

Yea.....liking the idea of having a 0.5 watt radio too:P........that everyone including their brother have, that you can't find a quiet channel on to save your life..........

Same packed channels.. with the exception that you can run higher power. If little Jimmy next door has his radio, his 0.5 watt next door will kill your 50 watts several miles away, repeater or not.

[adamdavis]

Oh........could u elaborate?

[N_Jay]

Originally Posted by adamdavis

Oh........could u elaborate?

R-Squared

[adamdavis]

N_Jay........what's your deal..........please do not post in my thread if all you can do is ridicule me....... Thank you!

[trace1]

Originally Posted by adamdavis

N_Jay........what's your deal..........please do not post in my thread if all you can do is ridicule me....... Thank you!

Wow!!!

[b7spectra]

If you have a 50 watt radio or repeater transmitting and little Johnny next door to you keys up his 1/2 watt radio on the same frequency, due to his closeness to you, he would most likely cover the signal you are trying to receive.

I read in another thread that some people used 900 MHz radio's to great advantage at some theme parks. The GMRS is 5 watts, so you should, technically, be able to talk all around one. Some places even have GMRS repeaters up in the areas and you could use them. Just make sure you have a ZA license.

[gewecke]

True. Also a good quality,properly tuned gmrs repeater should not have much problem from a normal "bubble pack" radio,unless it were very close to the duplexer.
Most of them do not have sufficient rf output to create a problem,in spite of mfg.specs.
N9ZAS.