P25 Phase 2 Firmware update for PSR 800 - Page 4

mike_s104 · #61 (**permalink**) 10-14-2012, 2:06 PM

Has anyone tried the PSR-800 with the new firmware on the Mississippi State system? I've posted there a few times but seem to be ignored.

cpunut · #62 (**permalink**) 10-14-2012, 2:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DonS

For limited definitions of "simple".

I'm with Don on this. Good job GRE team, you know who you are. I'm sure it was not easy.

troymail · #63 (**permalink**) 10-14-2012, 2:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cpunut

I'm with Don on this. Good job GRE team, you know who you are. I'm sure it was not easy.

Ditto! Awesome job.... keep it up!

KevinC · #64 (**permalink**) 10-14-2012, 2:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cpunut

I'm with Don on this. Good job GRE team, you know who you are. I'm sure it was not easy.

Does your shoulder hurt?

loumaag · #65 (**permalink**) 10-14-2012, 2:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cpunut

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Originally Posted by DonS

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all they needed was a simple firmware update to allow Phase II monitoring.

For limited definitions of "simple".

I'm with Don on this. Good job GRE team, you know who you are. I'm sure it was not easy.

Yeah, simple, it only took them better than a year and a half of working on it to get it to public beta.

However long it took, it is here and working now, so great job GRE!

DonS · #66 (**permalink**) 10-14-2012, 3:00 PM

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Originally Posted by loumaag

Yeah, simple, it only took them better than a year and a half of working on it to get it to public beta.

However long it took, it is here and working now, so great job GRE!

That's presuming they actually worked on P2 for that long (they didn't).

loumaag · #67 (**permalink**) 10-14-2012, 3:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DonS

That's presuming they actually worked on P2 for that long (they didn't).

Good point Don, I guess they did have to wait for some actual systems to be deployed. Duh, me.

KE5TLF · #68 (**permalink**) 10-14-2012, 5:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinC

Same here, but it's always done this on X2 so no big surprise.

Well that's a bummer. Hope they can remedy that. Does it mute the noise with "Silence" selected?
Also does the TDMA(either X2 or PII) audio in general seem louder to you than FDMA? Either previously or currently? I know PII TDMA audio seems noticeably louder here than FDMA.

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Originally Posted by tilt404

For those who didn't notice, in the ezscan software after the 1.07 update from yesterday in the audio tab, there's a new 'read disk' button, letting you import/read audio files you previously moved off the scanner and view them once again in ezscan with all the attached data on the files intact like tgid, rid, time, ect. This is a feature I've been asking for and glad to see.

Cool, hadn't been there yet. Though hopefully that is just a rough start and they can bring it up to 21st century standards instead of it's current Windows 3.1 level. LOL (at the very least add a option to load from subfolders, if possible.)

Bummed that no "STAT" option has been integrated yet. I guess at this point there's little reason to hope it ever will.

A suggestion, if possible, to have the mode indicator changed to where it would display FD, TD, or X2 as applicable.

Other than the noticeably louder TDMA audio, still no real issues so far. (other than the same old stuff that continues to go un-addressed.)

KevinC · #69 (**permalink**) 10-14-2012, 6:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KE5TLF

Well that's a bummer. Hope they can remedy that. Does it mute the noise with "Silence" selected?
Also does the TDMA(either X2 or PII) audio in general seem louder to you than FDMA? Either previously or currently? I know PII TDMA audio seems noticeably louder here than FDMA.

I haven't really noticed a difference in audio levels, I have noticed P25 seems to be more susceptible to varying user voice levels though. It doesn't appear the encryption settings do anything on either flavor of TDMA at this time.

loumaag · #70 (**permalink**) 10-14-2012, 6:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KE5TLF

Well that's a bummer. Hope they can remedy that. Does it mute the noise with "Silence" selected?
Also does the TDMA(either X2 or PII) audio in general seem louder to you than FDMA? Either previously or currently? I know PII TDMA audio seems noticeably louder here than FDMA.

I don't notice that here, I would imagine it might be a level setting thing on the system you are monitoring assuming you have digital AGC turned on.

KE5TLF · #71 (**permalink**) 10-14-2012, 6:33 PM

Yeah maybe so. It's by no means ear shattering or really even annoying, but it is enough to be noticeable. Seems maybe the Foresty dispatcher may be trying to swallow her mic too when she xmits. She is really loud. The forestry officers not quite so much.

Overall I'm really impressed with the quality so far. TDMA seems to even deal with some slight, occasional, interference I get on one of the voice channels on one of the sites I monitor better than FDMA does.

mrlindstrom · #72 (**permalink**) 10-14-2012, 6:58 PM

loumaag,

Which system(s) are you monitoring that have TDMA?

cpunut · #73 (**permalink**) 10-14-2012, 7:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinC

Does your shoulder hurt?

Nope. How about you?

KevinC · #74 (**permalink**) 10-14-2012, 8:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cpunut

Nope. How about you?

I was just kidding with you, y'all did a good job.

loumaag · #75 (**permalink**) 10-14-2012, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mrlindstrom

loumaag,

Which system(s) are you monitoring that have TDMA?

TxWarn P25 and Houston Public Works.

nosoup4u · #76 (**permalink**) 10-15-2012, 9:51 AM

For anyone who thought the radio id's did not decode as well in 1.6, it seems back to normal in the beta firmware.

loumaag · #77 (**permalink**) 10-15-2012, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinC

...It doesn't appear the encryption settings do anything on either flavor of TDMA at this time.

I am not in the stream of this development in any way, other than loading the public test beta on my radio. However, I do notice that the radio does recognize that it is getting encrypted traffic on the TDMA channels. Right now I am listening (well hearing is a better term) to an encrypted conversation in P2 on a system and am watching the icon switch between "D2" and "E" on line 1. I would imagine since the radio is recognizing it as encrypted, sooner or later, they will get the settings to work on the TDMA transmissions.

loumaag · #78 (**permalink**) 10-15-2012, 1:11 PM

Let me add something I just noticed in reference to my previous reply.

I had the volume turned down to a soft level on my PSR800 and was monitoring with Unitrunker (fed with a different radio) in an effort to try and map out the RIDs and TGs being used on P2. All of a sudden I realized, that I was hearing, at the beginning of each transmission the beginning of the "busy signal" that I have the PSR800 set for encrypted traffic before it stopped and I started hearing the gobbldy-gook of the encrypted transmission. Since it did not stay on during the transmission it probably got that initial notification from the channel grant. That would tend to go along with the statement in the release notes that limited data is available from the actual phase 2 transmission (no RIDs) but that doesn't explain how the "E" continues to be displayed throughout the transmission.

This is certainly not earth shattering news, just an observation for the general knowledge pool.

KevinC · #79 (**permalink**) 10-15-2012, 1:27 PM

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Originally Posted by loumaag

Let me add something I just noticed in reference to my previous reply.

I had the volume turned down to a soft level on my PSR800 and was monitoring with Unitrunker (fed with a different radio) in an effort to try and map out the RIDs and TGs being used on P2. All of a sudden I realized, that I was hearing, at the beginning of each transmission the beginning of the "busy signal" that I have the PSR800 set for encrypted traffic before it stopped and I started hearing the gobbldy-gook of the encrypted transmission. Since it did not stay on during the transmission it probably got that initial notification from the channel grant. That would tend to go along with the statement in the release notes that limited data is available from the actual phase 2 transmission (no RIDs) but that doesn't explain how the "E" continues to be displayed throughout the transmission.

This is certainly not earth shattering news, just an observation for the general knowledge pool.

Which is exactly how it reacts in X2 also.

dpcain · #80 (**permalink**) 10-15-2012, 4:20 PM

I've also noticed that TDMA PII appears noticeably louder. However, I'm picking up the brand new Maryland FiRST system with perfect clarity where reception permits, so many thanks to GRE. Where I really wet myself, however, is something that anybody else near Baltimore County or City will notice... or anywhere with a Phase I system using CQPSK LSM modulation. This was a massive problem with transmission distance-over-time phasing problems. However, this new update appears to make the PSR800 fully CQPSK-compatible. For the first time since the system came online, I am hearing Baltimore County Police and Fire with garble-less perfect quality.