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Old 08-25-2012, 4:13 PM
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Would anyone be able to confirm for me that the freqs listed below would be some of my best bets for monitoring air to ground fire frequencies out in the southern Riverside County area? Any others that would be good to add? Thanks!

151.220 CSQ CDF Air-to-Ground Primary
169.1125 CSQ CDF Air-to-Ground Secondary
166.675 CSQ Air Tactics 1
169.150 CSQ Air Tactics 2
169.200 CSQ Air Tactics 3
151.280 CSQ Air Tactics 4
151.295 CSQ Air Tactics 5
151.310 CSQ Air Tactics 6
151.2725 CSQ Air Tactics 21
151.2875 CSQ Air Tactics 22
151.3025 CSQ Air Tactics 23
168.625 110.9 PL Air Guard VHF
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Those all look accurate judging by the 2011 CDF radio plan. In that document, however, 169.1125 is listed as USFS air-to-ground secondary. I am not sure if the document is correct because there is another USFS air-to-ground secondary also listed (166.875). I think maybe you have it correct and the document has a typo.

USFS frequencies:
170.0000 MHz USFS air-to-ground
166.8750 MHz USFS secondary air-to-ground

I don't have much experience scanning the frequencies you posted myself, but the radio plan suggests that the use of Air Tactics for air-to-ground communications is rare and discouraged.

There also these air-to-air (Victor) frequencies listed:
122.850 Air to Air Operations
122.900 Air to Air Operations
123.975 Air Tanker Base Ground Control/Operations
122.975 Air to Air Operations Helicopter
123.025 Air to Air Operations Helicopter
122.750 Air to Air Operations
122.925 Air to Air Operations
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...i04Y3dZQ3JmN0E

You might find a little help here in this document. I put the info together over the last week to help me understand how the various freqs are used by the various agencies. It is very much a "work in progress".
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Your questions should be answered by referring to this thread:

New CA Air to Ground frequencies for 2012

Here is the listing for FM air to air tactics frequencies:

FEDERAL

1-166.6750
2-169.1500
3-169.2000

National Forests

Angeles 3
Cleveland 1
Eldorado 1
Inyo 1
Klamath 1
Lake Tahoe Management Unit 2
Lassen 1
Los Padres 1
Mendocino 2
Modoc 3
Plumas 2
San Bernardino 2
Sequoia 2
Shasta Trinity 3
Sierra 3
Six Rivers 3
Stanislaus 2
Tahoe 3

National Parks

Lassen Volcanic 1
Lava Beds 3
Santa Monica Mtns. 3
Sequoia-Kings Canyon 2
Yosemite 2

BLM Districts

Central California 1
California Desert ?
Northern California 1

STATE/LOCAL

4-151.280
5-151.295
6-151.310
21-151.2725
22-151.2875
23-151.3025

Cal Fire

Coast Cascade Region

Amador-El Dorado North 4, South 22
Butte 5
Humboldt-Del Norte (Fortuna) 6
Sonoma-Lake Napa Unit West 22, East 6
Lassen-Modoc 4
Mendocino 22
Nevada-Yuba-Placer West ?, East 6
San Mateo-Santa Cruz 6
Santa Clara 5
Shasta Trinity West 6, East 5
Siskiyou West 6, East 4
Tehama-Glen 5
Marin County 6

Sierra South Region

Fresno-Kings 6
Madera-Mariposa-Merced 6
Monte Vista 6
Riverside 6
San Bernardino 6
San Benito-Monterey 5
San Luis Obispo 4
Tulare 4 or 22
Tuolumne-Calaveras 4

Counties

Kern, Los Angeles, Orange, Ventura 6
Santa Barbara: most likely 6 but this is not verified

VHF AM Air to Air Tacticals

Air Tactics 7 - 130.200 MHz. - San Bernardino, Riverside, San Diego,
Orange and Los Angeles Counties
Air Tactics 8 - 131.475 MHz. - Madera, Mariposa, Merced, Fresno, Kings,
Tulare and Kern Counties
Air Tactics 9 - 131.575 MHz. - Santa Clara, San Benito, Monterey, San
Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara and Ventura
Counties
Air Tactics 10 - 129.075 MHz. - Nevada, Yuba, Placer, Amador, El Dorado,
Tuolumne, Calaveras and Sutter Counties
Air Tactics 11 - 129.775 MHz. - Shasta, Trinity, Tehama, Glenn, Butte,
Plumas and Sierra Counties
Air Tactics 12 - 131.550 MHz. - Siskiyou, Lassen and Modoc Counties
Air Tactics 13 - 131.600 MHz. - Humboldt, Del Norte, Mendocino, Sonoma
and Lake Counties

You should also listen to 168.650, National Flight Following and 123.975 Air Tanker Base. 135.975 is used for a air to air for the Monte Vista Unit and 135.575 for the Cleveland National Forest. 133.425 is used in the San Berdo, Riverside Counties area for air to air tactics.

Keep in mind that all these assignments are for initial attack. Large and multi-day incidents have frequencies assigned to them. There is no way to determine what these will be. You have to listen to an incident carefully as an announcement is made when any frequency is changed during an operational period. Changes made as of the beginning of the next period are announced via the Incident Action Plan, comm plan form.
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