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Old 02-04-2013, 11:14 AM
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Lightbulb Barstow FD changes dispatch

Effective 0800 today, Barstow FD will be dispatched by their own PD. They will continue to use the County TRS. One TG ID seems to be 17360. I understand they have assigned two new TGs. Once I can get them confirmed, I'll submit to the DB. Feel free to reply or submit to the DB if you already know them.
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Old 02-04-2013, 1:47 PM
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I think the other TG is 17328.
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I have heard traffic today on the 17328 (43B) talkgroup. My guess is that this my be the primary talkgroup. I guess this would be 1-BRFD1? I know Barstow PD is 1-BRPD1.
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Old 02-06-2013, 3:39 PM
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OK, I'll bite; be afraid of what?
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Old 02-06-2013, 7:22 PM
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OK, I'll bite; be afraid of what?
Police dispatching Fire...

fire can pretty much guarantee they'll to be told to stand by while someone's license is checked.
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:31 AM
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I have dispatched for Fire and PD at the same time, and yes... we would occasionally take PD over fire in a priority basis. After the initial dispatch to a fire/rescue unit, much of the rest of the work is done by the field staff with (generally) very little interface with us. PD on the other hand seems to require more support for their types of work. They also have a higher likely hood of an immediate situation arising (and blowing up) in their face.

With that said, if you are intimating that a rescue unit, say, requesting an ambulance expedite for a full arrest vs. a PD officer running a plate/records check would be told to stand by you are mistaking a half way trained dispatchers ability to multi task which is what we are all about.

...Hell, during someones lunch I may be talking to a PD channel, a Fire channel and a Public Works channel pretty much at the same time and I like to think I am pretty dang good at my job. Working at a big Dept like LAPD may have its challenges... but I would challenge any of them to 'do it all on their own' like we do at smaller municipalities.

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PS: Barstow, I'm sure, most trained folks could dispatch for both departments with a partner no problem.
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PS: Barstow, I'm sure, most trained folks could dispatch for both departments with a partner no problem.
You obviously do not live in Barstow. I do.

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From what I have heard so far, the police dispatchers are doing very well. Last night the handled the mercy air call pretty well. This morning Comm Center raised them on their talk group on a 911 transfer. From what I have heard the 17360 (43d) t/g is a station alert.
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In its specifics, dispatching and the dispatch environment varies widely by time and place, but the basic "job" and skill sets required are pretty universal - multitasking, prioritizing, detailed long- and short-term memory, maintaining calm and control within yourself and the people you're working with (fellow employees and the public), information evaluation and ordering, etc.
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Working at a big Dept like LAPD may have its challenges... but I would challenge any of them to 'do it all on their own' like we do at smaller municipalities.
I took that challenge years ago when I began dispatching for Grass Valley PD (11 officers, 4 dispatcher-clerks at the time) after having previously dispatched for LAPD and supervised at South Bay Communications, then in Redondo Beach, and had no problems. After a couple weeks of training I went solo on the one-person combination dispatch center, records division, and front desk.

As I'm sure I've mentioned here before, my absolutely busiest day dispatching ANYWHERE was one Sunday there when a freak windstorm blew in, toppling trees, power and phone lines, and all the rest. While my couple of officers and one sergeant were running around like crazy checking and assessing the damage in an attempt to sort of triage everything, I was also the weekend Public Works dispatcher and FD's "tactical" dispatcher. Half the town's 6000 people were calling in on my two 9-1-1 lines and four business lines to report problems or to ask "when will it be fixed?" <sigh - like I'm gonna know?>, and it seemed the other half who'd lost phone service were lined up at the front desk for the same reasons. And PG&E kept calling asking for traffic control here, barricades there, "we've got wires down in the street what's the officer's ETA?" Right.

It wasn't on the same life-safety scale as handling 3 or 4 simultaneous shootings and 211s plus the routine calls in 77th Division on a Summer Saturday night, but as you allude to, in this case I had to do everything literally by myself. Couldn't even reach any of the off-duty dispatchers for help, and I'd only been there perhaps two months at the most. But the identical skills and habits I had (or had developed) kicked in and we all got through the day not too much the worse for wear. I was never "super-dispatcher" by any means, though my ratings were always above average, but as you're well aware, it's the very nature of the job to constantly be expecting and reacting effectively to the unexpected, and coping with new situations that for a quick second may seem filled with copelessness.

Over the years a number of my LAPD co-workers moved off to smaller agencies - South Bay, Huntington Beach, San Marino, OCFA, CSU-Northridge PD, Newport Beach (or maybe it was Costa Mesa), some town in PA, another one to a little burg in MA, etc, and as far as I know they were all able to cope with the change and stayed until retirement or are still on the job.

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I'm sure they'll do fine. After all... they ARE police dispatchers already. Just listen to BOTH Barstow PD and Barstow FD when both have something more than routine calls. You will see what I mean as far as who gets the closer attention. With respect, having worked fire dispatch in this county previously, handling a Mercy Air call is not exactly taxing on the dispatcher. One call to Comm Center to place the request, one in return when they give you an ETA and contact freq. Glad to hear they were able to convey the info.
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Old 02-14-2013, 3:06 AM
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KMA I worked Avalon where the sheriff's station dispatches for everyone on the island. Sheriff, City Fire, County Fire, Baywatch and monitors Harbor Patrol.

I've worked as a station dispatcher on the mainland at some very very busy stations. Worst two days was on the island when an apartment complex caught fire and a very windy day when a boat sank in the harbor. Thankfully I was no longer on the island when they had the big wild fire out there a few years ago.
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Old 03-07-2013, 11:11 PM
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PD accidentally dispatched both Medic Engines to the same Medical Aid this afternoon. Dispatcher sounded pretty confused until the Capt from ME361 explained to her both engines were toned out to the same address and calltype and cancelled themselves.
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