I think I'm done with Disneyland scanning... ;)

[b52hbuff]

...well 'almost'. Some background...

I have tried for several years to snag all of the TGIDs associated with Disneyland's TRS. My trusty (rusty? ) tool has been a Uniden BC-780XLT with Trunk*Star software. The combination allows me to 'SEARCH' the system and catch new TGIDs that aren't part of my known list.

My recent experience with a Uniden BCD-996T leads me to believe that a lot of my previous experience has been chasing phantom decodes that are not really part of the system.

So my belief is that the TGID list on this board is probably as complete as we're going to get...

[Mick]

Hello. Here's my logs for Disneyland as of Feb 2006:

Disneyland
16
48
80
112
144
176
208
240 Red/Emergency
272 Blue/Security primary
304 Chat channel
336 Chat channel/security supervisors
368 Park ops; “River 1” “Indy 1, Jungle 1” “Attractions 1, Theme Park
1” “Adventure units” “Parade units” “Buzz1, Tomorrowland 1”
400 Park ops chat channel; Tomorrowland “Auto units” “Code Z”
“Monorail” “It’s raining, close the tree house”
432 purple/train central/monorail ops///white/green
464 trams///parking
496 facilities; “Maintenance Central” “Custodian 1 channel”
528 utilities///Purple/parking “Maintenance Center”
560 “Maintenance Center”; “Warehouse” units; Orange/Brown
592 Fire department
624 “Entertainment Central”; show/talent/character units///Green
656 parade/Fantasmic/festival/pink/ “Pyro testing” ”river” ”Island”
“Costuming” ”Facilities” ”Barge 1”
688 audio ops/channel 16/costuming units/magic/Parade
units/yellow/slate/floats/rehearsal units
720 DL custodial///silver
752 project units; Construction?
784 red/chat DCA chat? “Downtown lookout”; Hotel Security?
816 Hotel security///Downtown Disney Hotel security ops, Blue/
“Tortilla Joes” “Grand”
848 “Special Event” units
880 “Parade” units; channel 9; “Event”; “Fantasmic”; Guest Control?
912 Electricians/Autopia base; “13”; “Parade route”; “Fantasmic” units
944 Hotel security (816’s) chat channel/// DD Hotel security ops, chat
x960 “they have entered the monorail”
976 “lost keys”
1008 Security PCO DD Feb 2006; Special event ch; Parade show units
1040 Security “Team Leader”; PCO DD Feb 2006
1072 Security “Team Leader”; PCO DD Feb 2006
1104 Fire Dept. “DF” units
1136 Vending Central///silver; ODV; “Foods”
1168 Announcements/all call; “Emerg. Park & Hotel”
1200
1232 DCA security?/lookout; “Security 1 Control” “Hotel 1 Inspection”
1264 “Custodial Central” heard once 25Mar2005
1296 Landscape units; “Swarm of bees” “injured possum”
1328 ceremony/parade ops/film units; Traffic Control?
1360 DCA security chat channel; “Structure lookout Baker 16”
1392 Comm chat ch/ch 14/access/gate escorts/checkpoints; Hotel?
1424 Cleaning crews; “5” (720’s chat channel) DL; “No TP in N.O.”
1456 “Monorail purple entering the park”
1488 “periphery 3 to the mail room”
1520 custodial/landscape///DCA/DL custodial; “Drink spill monorail”
1552 DCA facilities
1584 audio units?
1616 “FX” units///DCA Show FX ops “working on Laser”
1648 GC hotel phone center/reception/HK
1680 vending? “Down to 5 cotton candies”
1712 ODV chat; “Cast member not feeling well”
1744 vending///DCA vending ch. 12/DCA
1776 announcements/A3 celebrity ch. Feb 2001; Hotel?
1808 Jungle Cruise///Adventureland ops
1840 Presentation services/DCA?; DCA Inspectors?
1872 PCO ch.; “man w/camera on his head”///ch. 14/Security
1904 A2; Special Events?
1936 “choir” units/buses; announcements
1968
2000 custodians; Hotel? Team Disney ops and security?
2032 Spanish speakers/hotel? Team Disney ops and security?
2064 hotel? landscaping
2096 “Hotel” “downtown 1” “Grand” “merchandise” “guest claims
issue” “Front desk manager” “Resort 1” Downtown Disney area
2128 “Recreation Units; DLH/Lifeguards?/Health Club/
2160 GC Hotel/Sequoia ballroom///banquet services
2192 Avalon Cove/Are we holding celebs?
2224 GC service
2256 DCA Foods? “Trash compacter needs to be packed”
2288
2320 “I’m in DCA trailer complex” “CFA run” “Key service”
2352 DCA parades; DCA Guest Control; “Parade” units
2384 GC Hotel custodians; “HK work orders”
2416 “On chat” DCA Ent. chat; Trams/Shuttles
2448 Carts///waste; “Costuming” “Holding traffic” “Need more
scooters” “By productions table”; Parade ops?
2480 Tour guides/Festival/Drivers/Tram/DCA parade
2512 Film units///Hyperion theater; Entertainment units?
2544 entertainment; “Madness”
2576 foods
2608 DL Hotel Emergency/A1/Alarm resets; “Emerg. Park Ch.”
2640 Stand at the media entrance “Storybook 8”; Fantasmic ch.?
2672 GC Hotel phone center/“Work orders” “Maint. Center”
2704 “9”/purge valve/test launch; DCA radio check? Facilities chat?
2736
2768 “caution sign on Freedman”
2800
2832
2864 “Bonita”/”Marina” “By the pool”
2896
2928
2960
2992
3024
3056
3088
3120
3152
3184
3216
3248
3280
3312
3344
3376
3408
3440
3472
3504 Festival units
3536
3568
3600
3632
x3648 “Motors can get it.”
3664
3696 Golden State/Eureka/Hollywood units///DCA ops; “Wait
time” “Attractions” “Theme Park” & “Entertainment” units
3728
3760
3792 DCA waiting times///DCA chat “On chat”; 3696’s chat
3824 ticket booths/”VP” units///DCA guest control; “Walt’s Apt. keys”
“Ticket” units; “City Hall” units; “Guest service” Main gate?
3856 “Are you on chat?
3888
3920 Publicity units/DCA “Ride down”
3952 GC Hotel guest services///concierge///DCA guest services “Valet,
phone center” “Valet booth” “Valet request” “Graveyard bell”
“VIP approaching in a Gold Pontiac”
3984 Trams/buses/Shuttles/costume units; “Marty”; “Festival” units
4016
4048
4080 active 30Mar2005
4112
4144
4176
4208
4240
4272
4304
4336
4368
4400
4432
4464
4496 ?
4528
4560
4592 active 25Mar2005
4624
4656
4688
4720
4752
4784
4816 “Overlaying carpet”
4848
4880
4912 “Control, Grand 6 awaiting nurse” active 29Mar2005
4944
4976
5008
5040
5072
5104
5136
5168
5200
5232 active 12Oct2004
5264
5296
5328
5360
5392 keyed up
5424
5456
5488
5520
5552
5584
5616
5648
5680
5712
5744 active 12Oct2004
5776
5808
5840 security
5872
5904
5936
5968
6000
6032
6064
6096
6128
6160
6196
6224 active
6256
6288
6320
6352
6384
6416
6448
6480
6512
6444
6576
6608
6640
6672
6704
6736
6768
6800
6832
6864
6896
6928
6960
6992
7024
7056
7088
7120
7152 active
7184
7216
7248
7280
7312 alert 25744
7344
7376
7408
7440
7472
7504
7536
7568
7600
7632
7664
7696
7728
7760
7792
7824
7856
7888
7920
7952
7984
8016
8048
8080
8112
8144
8176
8208
8240
8272
8304
8336
8368
8400
8432
8464
8496
8528
8560
8592 “Guests are bumping”
8624 Monorail
8656
8688
8720
8752
8784
8816 ?
8848
8880
8912
8644
8976
9008 active
9040
9072
9104
9136
9168
9200
9232
9264
9296
9328
9360
9392
9424
9456
9488
9520
9552
9584
9616 active 12Oct2004
9648
9680
9712
9744 phone patch = 938.425
9776
9808
9840 Hotel
9872
9904
9936
9968 phone patch = 938.425
10000

10864 busy
12752
16656 control
16816 active
16880 maintenance center
18864 security
19104 Screamin’ 104
19152 “98 at DCA stroller shop” “Foods 1 tour central”
19280 Dumbo is 101/”Code 1 CFA to Screamin’”
19264 work orders
19286 active
20176 wait times
23152
32176 “Hotel manager, go ahead” ///DLH
32208 Hotel engineering///DLH; “Koi Pond”
32240 Hotel chat/housekeeping///DLH
32272 DLH “Banquet” units; “Cerritos” “Terrazo”
32304 DLH housekeeping
32336 DLH landscape
32368
32400
32432
32464
32496
32528
32560
32592
32624
32656
32688
32720
32752 active
32784 Spanish
32816 Paradise Pier Hotel; “HK” “Front desk to Bellman”
32848 Housekeeping/banquet; Paradise Pier Hotel
32880 Spanish
33072 “Monorail central”
33648
34864 “HK”

41840 “Clear to go”

44880 simulcast with 432

50016 “By the Matterhorn”
51744
51792 Hyperion
51888 “Meet at CFA”
52280 work order
54368 phone patch
55264
56176 Nokia factory?
56484 Hotel Red?

(rev. 16 Feb 2006)

[cristisphoto]

I was gonna ask who in heck would find An amusement park THAT dang interesting but then I remember all the good stuff in Anahiem is Closed to outsiders LOL

Man I think I wold move if my area was like that....
Regards
Crista

[Eng74]

It is great to know what is going on when you are at the parks. You know when the rides are down or the wait time for them.

[cristisphoto]

Ok I confess sometimes I listen to Macys Security
When its quiet
That are actually pretty busy
reminds why I dont shop in Frisco
Btween securty guards
and Snobby reatailers
I think I'll go to the Peninsula LOL
But anyways
Yeah You should listen if you ever on Frisco
They can get Pretty dang Crazy in those stores



Crista

[b52hbuff]

Originally Posted by Mick

Hello. Here's my logs for Disneyland as of Feb 2006:

Disneyland
...
(rev. 16 Feb 2006)

You should cross reference this against the information in the TRS database.

I am also very curious about how you obtained the list? What radio? Where was it located? What kind of antenna? What was relative signal strength? etc...

My previous experience with a Uniden BC-780XLT, with the supplied antenna, in a hotel < 1k feet from Disneyland is similar to yours. HOWEVER, when I tried the Uniden 996T in the same configuration, the number of 'phantom groups' has been reduced to ZERO. I think the decode on the 996 is just that much better than the 780.

My other observation is that enabling I-Call on the 780 made it more suseptible to decoding errors in the TGID SEARCH mode.

[Mick]

Hello. I got the list from personal monitoring from 2.5 miles away with scanners like the Uniden BC780, BC245, and BCD396T scanners. I have used rooftop antennas like the AS MONR31, but this location is close enough with just a short 2 inch antenna, and the signal strength is full scale.

Originally Posted by b52hbuff

You should cross reference this against the information in the TRS database.

I am also very curious about how you obtained the list? What radio? Where was it located? What kind of antenna? What was relative signal strength? etc...

My previous experience with a Uniden BC-780XLT, with the supplied antenna, in a hotel < 1k feet from Disneyland is similar to yours. HOWEVER, when I tried the Uniden 996T in the same configuration, the number of 'phantom groups' has been reduced to ZERO. I think the decode on the 996 is just that much better than the 780.

My other observation is that enabling I-Call on the 780 made it more suseptible to decoding errors in the TGID SEARCH mode.

[b52hbuff]

Originally Posted by Mick

Hello. I got the list from personal monitoring from 2.5 miles away with scanners like the Uniden BC780, BC245, and BCD396T scanners. I have used rooftop antennas like the AS MONR31, but this location is close enough with just a short 2 inch antenna, and the signal strength is full scale.

Well, it you're up for it...

My recommendation is to take all of these unknown TGIDs and put them in a scan list. Scan the scan list in 'closed' mode and disable the I-Call feature. Use the ID Tracker:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/k/d/kd5eis/I...tm#IDTrackerII

...and verify that those TGIDs actually produce real distinct voice and not phantom decode errors...

[wayne_h]

That's the problem with the Uniden gear.....you're going to get a lot of bogus talkgroups when you listen long enough and ignore/lockout/search past other active stuff. So I'm willing to bet that many talkgroups are in error, especially anything referencing phone patches.

Best way to figure this out is to use Trunker. Gleaming the info from the affiliation log or looking over the group TXT file and verifying more than a few calls were made (there's a counter for it) you can determine what's legit.

I use to drive up from San Diego and sit in the Del Taco parking lot with Trunker running. This was before any 900MHz trunktracker (I used an MTS2000) and scanners couldn't handle the spacing on 900; adjacent channel interference really hosed decoding. It's one of those interests that you don't understand unless you're doing it.

-Wayne

[b52hbuff]

Originally Posted by wayne_h

That's the problem with the Uniden gear.....you're going to get a lot of bogus talkgroups when you listen long enough and ignore/lockout/search past other active stuff. So I'm willing to bet that many talkgroups are in error, especially anything referencing phone patches.-Wayne

Well, you have to admit that they've come a long way from the 780 to the 996. The 996 seems to have a much more solid decode. I didn't realize how bad the 780 was until I ran the 996...

[wayne_h]

Originally Posted by b52hbuff

Well, you have to admit that they've come a long way from the 780 to the 996. The 996 seems to have a much more solid decode. I didn't realize how bad the 780 was until I ran the 996...

I'll agree, but the GRE is still the standard.

Back then the 235 I used (had the tap) was so bad, especially with locked TGs. Anything was an improvement.

-Wayne

[radio10-8]

Frisco? You must not be a native San Franciscan? )

[iepoker]

Thats funny about the 'Frisco' thing... that was the first thing I thought of too =)

For those keeping score, 'Frisco' is sort of taboo in the bay area... they prefer 'The City' I think...

Or at least thats how it was 20 years ago when I was a young deadhead making my way to Grateful Dead shows first in San Francisco, then moving across the bay to the remote reaches of Berkeley and Oakland.

[inigo88]

I'm local, I live 20 min north across the Golden Gate Bridge. Trust me, you're absolutely right - It is 'The City' or 'SF', or, here's an original idea: "San Francisco!" Every time I read Frisco though I shudder. Then again, her past posts here and on the bayscan yahoo group show a clear distain for the city and everyone living there. So my question is, if you hate a place enough, why don't you move? That would probably be a better solution than complaining about it all the time in scanner forums.

I'm going to end this rant because this thread is about Disneyland not SF, but please... if you're going to talk about Macys, then talk about Macys and the freqs they use and why it's entertaining to listen to. DON'T start complaining about 'Frisco' and how everyone there is snobby and you hate the whole place. It got old like six months ago!

[iepoker]

...It's definetely not Kansas up there, thats for sure.

Come on Crista... three times, theres no place like home, theres no place like home, theres no place...

IMNSHO, and contrary to what Bill O'Reilly (and Crista I guess) would say, i found "the city" to be a great place to visit and live. Its embrace of freedoms not so embraced in... say, Kansas, are what attracts me to it... just got too exspensive for me.

Stuck inside of So Cal, with the Pomona Blues again....

[wayne_h]

<sigh> Thread hijack! Sorry Buff.

I personally want nothing to do with "The City." I go there as little as possible. I think California would do a lot better without the politics and viewpoints that are pissed from that city/county.

-Wayne

[hotdjdave]

In Los Angeles, the LAPD refer to Los Angeles as "The City" when calling in a person's DL (or a suspect/vict info with address) if the person actually lives in Los Angeles and not another community in Los Angeles (like Van Nuys, Northridge, Brentwood, etc). I think they get if from the TV show Dragnet, where Sgt. Friday says in the opening monologue: "This is the city: Los Angeles, California. I work here. I carry a badge..." I am sure that many, if not most, don't even know why they say it. Just like many other customs in the LAPD, we just do it because we have always done it that way, or my sergeant did it that way. Monkey see, monkey do.

See the caption under the first picture of Downtown LA: http://www.geocities.com/los_angeles_coast/

Originally Posted by wayne_h

I personally want nothing to do with "The City." I go there as little as possible. I think California would do a lot better without the politics and viewpoints that are pissed from that city/county.

-Wayne

Referring to Frisco, I agree totally, but one step further: the USA could do without. But no, now we got Pelosi (from Frisco) third in line for President of the USA...God forbid!


Keeping on topic - I need to get over to Disneyland this coming next year to check out the new stuff and try out my scanner there. Last time I was there, I didn't have my BCD396T (or any trunk tracking scanner).

[b52hbuff]

Originally Posted by hotdjdave

Keeping on topic - I need to get over to Disneyland this coming next year to check out the new stuff and try out my scanner there. Last time I was there, I didn't have my BCD396T (or any trunk tracking scanner).

Please try my profile here:
http://www.radioreference.com/forums...ate+disneyland

Let me know how it works for you.

p.s. I recommend listening to the radio via ipod earbuds...

[Jurassic69]

Hey all. First time poster here. I am a Disney geek and I borrowed my bosses Kenwood TriBander TH-FG and took it to the park today. I couldn't pick up ANYTHING. Does anyone have the patience to tell me what I am doing wrong?

Thanks a million!

Sam

[hotdjdave]

Originally Posted by Jurassic69

Hey all. First time poster here. I am a Disney geek and I borrowed my bosses Kenwood TriBander TH-FG and took it to the park today. I couldn't pick up ANYTHING. Does anyone have the patience to tell me what I am doing wrong?

Thanks a million!

Sam

Using the wrong radio. You need trunk tracking scanner.