I have been looking for a while now and can't seem to find a ribless programming cable for the Remote mount Orion. I was going to just buy one from price industries however they have closed. If anyone has a schematic for the ribless cable I really would appreciate it.
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Orion Programing cable
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I've looked in the help file and if I remember correctly the only schematic is for the cable that uses a rib. But I will have to look again. Or maybe someone knows how to build a jumper to in place of a rib box, as I don't have one of those.
Thanks for the replies.
I've looked in the help file and if I remember correctly the only schematic is for the cable that uses a rib. But I will have to look again. Or maybe someone knows how to build a jumper to in place of a rib box, as I don't have one of those.
Thanks for the replies.
mitaux8030
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Not hard to make.
For a remote control unit programming cable, solder a male & female DB37 connectors, all pins, 'back to back', and then make the following connections:
DB37 pins to a female DB9 that conects to your PC comm port:
DB37 > DB9
2 > 3
3 > 2
7 > 5
also jumper pins 8 to 25 and 6 to 20 on the DB37
and connect pins 7 to 8 on the DB9.
Then encase the back to back DB37s in epoxy to make it rigid.
If you have a local control unit, you only need to use a single DB37, no back-to-back needed.
For a remote control unit programming cable, solder a male & female DB37 connectors, all pins, 'back to back', and then make the following connections:
DB37 pins to a female DB9 that conects to your PC comm port:
DB37 > DB9
2 > 3
3 > 2
7 > 5
also jumper pins 8 to 25 and 6 to 20 on the DB37
and connect pins 7 to 8 on the DB9.
Then encase the back to back DB37s in epoxy to make it rigid.
If you have a local control unit, you only need to use a single DB37, no back-to-back needed.
mitaux8030
Silent Key
The one described above works for me just fine. If it doesn't work for you, then try making these changes to the above:
DB37 > DB9
2 >120 ohm> 3
3 >120 ohm> 2
6 > 8
20 > 7
There is another diagram that has some confusing information that addionally has the following with the note "add to DB25 side" (my confusion is did they really mean DB37 side, or do they mean the Accessory DB25 connector on a remote CU?)
DB37 or DB25???
join pin 7 > pin 8 with cathode of diode to pin 8. Diode type not specified, so 1N4148 would probably do.
join pin 8 > pin 25 with 130 ohm.
DB37 > DB9
2 >120 ohm> 3
3 >120 ohm> 2
6 > 8
20 > 7
There is another diagram that has some confusing information that addionally has the following with the note "add to DB25 side" (my confusion is did they really mean DB37 side, or do they mean the Accessory DB25 connector on a remote CU?)
DB37 or DB25???
join pin 7 > pin 8 with cathode of diode to pin 8. Diode type not specified, so 1N4148 would probably do.
join pin 8 > pin 25 with 130 ohm.
Muxlow
Super Secret
So lets see if i got this rite
Connect all 37 pins from the male to the female?
1-1
2-2 amd so on on the DB37?
And then connect pin 8-25 and 6-20 on both DB37's?
And only 3 wires go into the DB9 from the 37?
Then jump the other 2 pins and that that?
Whats the most simple way to connect the 37's to each other. Would be a pain to connect wires to each pin to pin. Would it be possible to connect them direct and not use any wire for the DB37's? Other then the 4 jumpers and connect them to the DB9?
A picture im sure would help me out. Ill see it and then be like wow... im dumb
I tried to make a cable last night from my front mount cable, figured just copy that pin out to 2 DB37's and then to then DB9.. but failed
Connect all 37 pins from the male to the female?
1-1
2-2 amd so on on the DB37?
And then connect pin 8-25 and 6-20 on both DB37's?
And only 3 wires go into the DB9 from the 37?
Then jump the other 2 pins and that that?
Whats the most simple way to connect the 37's to each other. Would be a pain to connect wires to each pin to pin. Would it be possible to connect them direct and not use any wire for the DB37's? Other then the 4 jumpers and connect them to the DB9?
A picture im sure would help me out. Ill see it and then be like wow... im dumb
I tried to make a cable last night from my front mount cable, figured just copy that pin out to 2 DB37's and then to then DB9.. but failed
radioman2001
Member
You don't even have to hook up the control cable, unlike Motorola the control head doesn't need to be hooked up for programming. I program our radios with just the radio hooked up and power applied.
Basically from the radio db37 to a db9 female.
db37 pin > db9 pin
2 > 3
3 > 2
7 > 5
also jumper pins 8 to 25 and 6 to 17 on the db37, and 7 to 8 on the db9.
Pin #25 needs A+ for the radio to turn on.
Basically from the radio db37 to a db9 female.
db37 pin > db9 pin
2 > 3
3 > 2
7 > 5
also jumper pins 8 to 25 and 6 to 17 on the db37, and 7 to 8 on the db9.
Pin #25 needs A+ for the radio to turn on.
Muxlow
Super Secret
Iv made 2 different types of cables and programmer keeps saying Couldnt initalize radio.
How do i tell what the last ver of programmer was used to program the radio?
How do i tell what the last ver of programmer was used to program the radio?
You can try Radio Cable & Programmer Solutions for Programming for cables. I previously bought from Price Industries but they have closed down their site.
Muxlow
Super Secret
I think the cables are fine. It just may have been programmed with RPM. The person i got it from said it was last used with R18. Same ver i have.. but im not so sure. Just need to know how to check that in the radio itself
Muxlow
Super Secret
HA
Had the wrong com port the whole time
Had the wrong com port the whole time
EWTCMT
Member
I'm a little rusty on Orion programming and what work I did was at a former employers,anyway if I copy this schematic and connect the DB9 directly to the COM port of the PC running Programmer it should initialize and be able to read? If pin 25 needs A+ to turn on radio do I need to supply that from a power supply or is the 5v from the comport OK?
Thanks for any and all refreshing
Wayne
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