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NEW!! Harris XL-200P Full Spectrum Radio

Ok, it's no longer a secret. The new Harris Full Spectrum Radio (136-870 MHz) is being released soon and it is a bad puppy. Check out the specs on Harris Portable and Mobile RadiosHarris Radios

Being launched at APCO Intl this month and ready to ship later this year. Get this, Commercial and 700 LTE built-in.

It's gonna blow all others (the "one" other manufacturer) out of the water. EDACS capable too. Possible OpenSky too depending on demand. I'll answer in-depth questions after the launch. Don't want to steal our product manager's thunder.

Oh, and it's smaller and lighter than a XG-75P and APX6/8000.
 
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No but told there are some in pipeline for us as we are in EDACS to P25 migration and also interoperate on a competitors P25 infrastructure and with other VHF and UHF systems. Also already have several 100p and 100m configurations in service.

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That's great! Too bad your unity portables don't do EDACS. So you're currently going thru an IP Gateway? Unity Mobile does allow for EDACS as long as you use the CH-721 control head.

I've had a prototype XL-200P for a couple of months now and it's been amazing. Reception, site transitions, screen size/color, audio amplification, 3 Noise Cancellation Mics on the front of the radio, Situatinal Awareness, GPS, etc. Also the knobs are placed just right for gloves-hands.
 

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Not there quite yet, waiting on final contract negotiations but a cutover date of a bit over a year out with the system spooled up for testing in about 9 months. We do have some 100m's with CH721 and EDACS. The CH100 is nice but not for a primary radio you need to manipulate while driving.

Have a couple 15p units we have been testing on another P25 system for a month or two now that are very promising as well at their price point for public service users.

Still waiting on official word on the 200p price point. Hoping that 700/800 only is not far off from 75p price point to justify a single platform for public safety. Also hoping it is known prior to having to sign our contract in a few weeks.

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Interesting, and it seems like a forward thinking design. Including LTE was smart.

I'd take an APX8000 over it without a moment's hesitation, though. At least I would at this time as it's
a product you can buy TODAY, if your pocket is deep enough.

I dare to predict the future of radio communications: We will see a continuing migration toward the usage of internet protocols, IPV6 addressing, and systems that operate over wifi networks where available, on whatever frequency bands are available, with the form factor of portable radios changing to become more and more like a ruggedized smartphone with a few carefully chosen tactile controls.

The architecture of the radios will increasingly be more and more software defined, and the modulation and bandwidth capabilities will improve to such an extent that I believe that in just a few years, there will be hand-held radios in development that will be physically capable of operation on any frequency range from VHF to 5.8 GHz inclusive, with enough software defined capability to accept 5G LTE via a flash upgrade, or even 6G, even if the spec hasn't been roughly defined when the radio architecture development is frozen during the design process.

It'll be pretty much a super broadband, generic transceiver with all of its capabilities defined by the software, and within broad RF frequency limits, it will be capable of any current or planned modulation schemes and data formats.

SDR technology really is making radio design a "sky's the limit" sort of thing.
 

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DROOL

I was talking to a Harris rep about this at a trade fair yesterday and almost dribbled on the table. Very cool.
 

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Harris and their new radios every couple of years...

But it does look nice. Hopefully it doesn't carry all of the same flaws that previous lines have. It just kills me to see them come out with new hardware just to hang on to the old software and all of the limitations that come with it.
 

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XGPR is the latest code. Harris takes pride in firmware and software. However, unlike every other manufacturer, Harris continuously addresses issues and features by rolling out radio code and RPM updates as often as four times per year. Not to mention the exception release code for individual customers needing a specific issue addressed without a full release.
 

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Harris has it's faults including some product / software release documentation, shortage of local shop / Mfg Reps in many areas and a few other things. Having regular firmware updates and a great programming platform aren't among them.

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Agreed, RPM (and programmer before it) really set the standard for how radio programming software SHOULD be laid out.

Very neat, very orderly, very logical, and best of all, complete codeplug portability between every supported radio, and the list of supported radios is "the entire current product line plus all the legacy models still in relatively common service".

Motorola (and everybody else) could learn a lot from RPM.
 

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Absolutely cool that you can switch between a XG-100P to a UHF XG-75P to a XG-25M with RPM using one mission plan. Simply select a different Radio Type.....even legacy radios.
 
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With all this talk of SDR radios, IP based radios and computer based anything, all I can think about is AUXCOMM.... Time and time again we see all this "fancy" radio technology pushed onto agencies, and then it fails. One of my biggest goals as CommL for a SAR team is redundancy. We use digital radios, but what if they fail? I always have a plan in place. All that aside, sign me up. Ill buy one!
 

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Ever heard of BeOn? Now that's total redundancy for you. Imagine having complete P25 Standard Communications on your cell phone regardless of carrier, radio manufacturer, or even trunking technology....even certified P25 AES encryption end-to-end.
 
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Ever heard of BeOn? Now that's total redundancy for you. Imagine having complete P25 Standard Communications on your cell phone regardless of carrier, radio manufacturer, or even trunking technology....even certified P25 AES encryption end-to-end.

I just checked it out. That is pretty interesting. P-25 on your cellphone that shows up as LMR on your radio system. I am still a strong advocate of having analog backup to everything though.
 

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With all this talk of SDR radios, IP based radios and computer based anything, all I can think about is AUXCOMM.... Time and time again we see all this "fancy" radio technology pushed onto agencies, and then it fails. One of my biggest goals as CommL for a SAR team is redundancy. We use digital radios, but what if they fail? I always have a plan in place. All that aside, sign me up. Ill buy one!

The biggest hurdle with any product like this will be AFFORDABILITY. I speak from the standpoint of working at a place that is just implementing a new P25 phase 2 network while being weened of a 30 year old Smartnet II system with 10-12 year old subscriber units.

The money is just NOT THERE in most agencies to hand out $7000 radios to every subscriber. And not every sub NEEDS a high tier, high end radio like this or an APX8000, I can see these being command staff radios or a cache of say, 50 sitting in an EMA somewhere for that day but meanwhile, everyone else will still have their 10 year old XTS5000.

Now if Harris (or whoever) produced these at the price point of say, $1800-2200 a pop, they would change the market. But that won't happen.
 

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The XG-15p is going for around $1200 with all accessories, the 25p for around $2400, the 75p around $3400 and a fully loaded 100p for around $5000.

The only way to get to $7000 on a Harris radio is a fully featured, dual head, all band Unity Mobile with 100w low band amplifier.

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