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Old 03-16-2017, 4:46 PM
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Thanks much for the info on the Hawaii County network. Do you have System ID and WACN info for Hawaii County? I'm curious why they did not migrate to 700/800 MHZ (thought was a Federal mandate)?

On another note, do you have additional talk groups for Maui Phase 2 than what's listed in the RR database? I'm heading to Maui in about a week for about 5 days. I have a Whistler TRX-1 that I'm planning on using.
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Thanks much for the info on the Hawaii County network. Do you have System ID and WACN info for Hawaii County? I'm curious why they did not migrate to 700/800 MHZ (thought was a Federal mandate)?

On another note, do you have additional talk groups for Maui Phase 2 than what's listed in the RR database? I'm heading to Maui in about a week for about 5 days. I have a Whistler TRX-1 that I'm planning on using.
According to the RR database, the System ID = 855 and the WACN = BEE00. I can confirm this via Unitrunker and Pro96Com also.

As for Maui County PD, I've also heard talk groups 5110 and 5120 in addition to the two listed in the database. 5110 seems to be the most active. I'm not familiar with Maui at all, so I'm not quite sure of the the exact areas those talkgroups cover.
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Thanks for the update!
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Is Hawaii County Digital Switch over encrypted
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Some info from Pro96Com and Site NAC's.
Quickly logging from the large cruise ship that's in Hilo Port

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-TowerInfo
System ID : 855
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 1-1
Tower Number (Hex) : T0101
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Flavor : Phase 2
Call Sign(s) : WQVN651
Timestamp : Sat Mar 18 15:48:39 2017
SITE NAC:851

-Tables
#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth,Slots
04,145.00000,0.00250,0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
05,155.00000,0.00250,0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
06,165.00000,0.00250,0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
07,145.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
08,150.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
09,155.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
10,160.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
11,165.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2

-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"04-2407","i",151.01750,"04-2407",151.01750,0,1
"04-2494","c",151.23500,"05-1624",159.06000,1,0
"05-0235","a",155.58750,"05-1762",159.40500,1,0
"08-0814","v",151.01750/0,"09-3200",159.00000/0,1,12
"08-0815","v",151.01750/1,"09-3201",159.00000/1,1,9
"09-0470","v",155.58750/0,"09-3524",159.40500/0,1,2
"09-0471","v",155.58750/1,"09-3525",159.40500/1,1,1

-Neighbors
#Format: TowerID,TowerIDHex,System ID,Channel,Frequency
105,"T0105",855,"05-0466",156.16500
106,"T0106",855,"04-2578",151.44500
107,"T0107",855,"04-2569",151.42250
111,"T010B",855,"05-0445",156.11250

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FileVersion:8
-TowerInfo
System ID : 855
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 1-5
Tower Number (Hex) : T0105
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Flavor : Phase 2
Call Sign(s) : WQWG875
Timestamp : Sat Mar 18 16:46:31 2017
SITE NAC: 855

-Tables
#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth,Slots
04,145.00000,0.00250,0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
05,155.00000,0.00250,0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
06,165.00000,0.00250,0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
07,145.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
08,150.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
09,155.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
10,160.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
11,165.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2

-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"05-0085","di",155.21250,"05-0085",155.21250,0,1
"05-0151","ad",155.37750,"05-1654",159.13500,1,0
"05-0229","ad",155.57250,"05-1636",159.09000,1,0
"05-0466","c",156.16500,"05-1732",159.33000,1,0
"09-0170","v",155.21250/0,"09-3050",158.81250/0,1,6
"09-0171","v",155.21250/1,"09-3051",158.81250/1,1,6
"09-0302","v",155.37750/0,"09-3308",159.13500/0,1,2
"09-0458","v",155.57250/0,"09-3272",159.09000/0,1,45
"09-0459","v",155.57250/1,"09-3273",159.09000/1,1,44

-Neighbors
#Format: TowerID,TowerIDHex,System ID,Channel,Frequency
101,"T0101",855,"04-2494",151.23500
106,"T0106",855,"04-2578",151.44500
111,"T010B",855,"05-0445",156.11250

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FileVersion:8
-TowerInfo
System ID : 855
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 1-6
Tower Number (Hex) : T0106
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Flavor : Phase 2
Call Sign(s) :
Timestamp : Sat Mar 18 17:55:40 2017
SITE NAC: 856

-Tables
#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth,Slots
04,145.00000,0.00250,0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
05,155.00000,0.00250,0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
06,165.00000,0.00250,0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
07,145.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
08,150.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
09,155.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
10,160.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
11,165.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2

-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"04-2518","a",151.29500,"05-1718",159.29500,1,0
"04-2578","c",151.44500,"05-1780",159.45000,1,0
"08-0868","v",151.08500/0,"08-0868",151.08500/0,0,2
"08-0869","v",151.08500/1,"09-3009",158.76000/1,1,1

-Neighbors
#Format: TowerID,TowerIDHex,System ID,Channel,Frequency
101,"T0101",855,"04-2494",151.23500
105,"T0105",855,"05-0466",156.16500
108,"T0108",855,"05-0160",155.40000
111,"T010B",855,"05-0445",156.11250
112,"T010C",855,"05-0208",155.52000

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FileVersion:8
-TowerInfo
System ID : 855
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 1-7
Tower Number (Hex) : T0107
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Flavor : Phase 2
Call Sign(s) : WQVQ892
Timestamp : Sat Mar 18 17:13:48 2017
SITE NAC: 857

-Tables
#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth,Slots
04,145.00000,0.00250,0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
05,155.00000,0.00250,0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
06,165.00000,0.00250,0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
07,145.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
08,150.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
09,155.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
10,160.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
11,165.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2

-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"04-2446","di",151.11500,"04-2446",151.11500,0,1
"04-2506","a",151.26500,"04-3547",153.86750,1,0
"04-2569","c",151.42250,"04-3610",154.02500,1,0
"08-0892","v",151.11500/0,"08-3028",153.78500/0,1,3
"08-0893","v",151.11500/1,"08-3029",153.78500/1,1,2

-Neighbors
#Format: TowerID,TowerIDHex,System ID,Channel,Frequency
101,"T0101",855,"04-2494",151.23500
104,"T0104",855,"04-2563",151.40750
108,"T0108",855,"05-0160",155.40000
116,"T0110",855,"05-0442",156.10500
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FileVersion:8
-TowerInfo
System ID : 855
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 1-11
Tower Number (Hex) : T010B
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Flavor : Phase 2
Call Sign(s) : WQWE527
Timestamp : Sat Mar 18 18:13:46 2017
SITE NAC: 85B

-Tables
#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth,Slots
04,145.00000,0.00250,0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
05,155.00000,0.00250,0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
06,165.00000,0.00250,0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
07,145.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
08,150.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
09,155.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
10,160.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
11,165.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2

-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"05-0091","i",155.22750,"05-0091",155.22750,0,1
"05-0145","a",155.36250,"05-1606",159.01500,1,0
"05-0250","ad",155.62500,"05-1693",159.23250,1,0
"05-0445","c",156.11250,"05-1537",158.84250,1,0
"09-0182","v",155.22750/0,"09-3500",159.37500/0,1,1
"09-0500","v",155.62500/0,"09-3386",159.23250/0,1,2
"09-0501","v",155.62500/1,"09-3387",159.23250/1,1,1

-Neighbors
#Format: TowerID,TowerIDHex,System ID,Channel,Frequency
101,"T0101",855,"04-2494",151.23500
105,"T0105",855,"05-0466",156.16500
106,"T0106",855,"04-2578",151.44500
113,"T010D",855,"04-2482",151.20500
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4 more Pro96Com reports:

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FileVersion:8
-TowerInfo
System ID : 855
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 1-4
Tower Number (Hex) : T0104
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Flavor : Phase 2
Call Sign(s) : WQVS632
Timestamp : Sat Mar 18 21:08:49 2017
SITE NAC: 854

-Tables
#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth,Slots
04,145.00000,0.00250,0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
05,155.00000,0.00250,0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
06,165.00000,0.00250,0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
07,145.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
08,150.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
09,155.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
10,160.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
11,165.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2

-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"04-2425","di",151.06250,"04-2425",151.06250,0,1
"04-2563","c",151.40750,"05-1774",159.43500,1,0
"04-3923","a",154.80750,"05-1699",159.24750,1,0
"08-0850","v",151.06250/0,"09-3260",159.07500/0,1,9
"08-0851","v",151.06250/1,"09-3261",159.07500/1,1,5

-Neighbors
#Format: TowerID,TowerIDHex,System ID,Channel,Frequency
107,"T0107",855,"04-2569",151.42250
116,"T0110",855,"05-0442",156.10500

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FileVersion:8
-TowerInfo
System ID : 855
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 1-8
Tower Number (Hex) : T0108
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Flavor : Phase 2
Call Sign(s) : WQWC679
Timestamp : Sat Mar 18 21:43:58 2017
SITE NAC: 858

-Tables
#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth,Slots
04,145.00000,0.00250,0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
05,155.00000,0.00250,0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
06,165.00000,0.00250,0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
07,145.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
08,150.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
09,155.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
10,160.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
11,165.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2

-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"04-2482","di",151.20500,"04-2482",151.20500,0,1
"04-2596","a",151.49000,"05-1576",158.94000,1,0
"05-0160","c",155.40000,"05-1732",159.33000,1,0
"08-0964","v",151.20500/0,"09-3104",158.88000/0,1,17
"08-0965","v",151.20500/1,"09-3105",158.88000/1,1,15
"08-1192","v",151.49000/0,"09-3152",158.94000/0,1,3
"08-1193","v",151.49000/1,"09-3153",158.94000/1,1,3

-Neighbors
#Format: TowerID,TowerIDHex,System ID,Channel,Frequency
106,"T0106",855,"04-2578",151.44500
107,"T0107",855,"04-2569",151.42250
112,"T010C",855,"05-0208",155.52000
116,"T0110",855,"05-0442",156.10500

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FileVersion:8
-TowerInfo
System ID : 855
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 1-12
Tower Number (Hex) : T010C
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Flavor : Phase 2
Call Sign(s) : WQWE666
Timestamp : Sat Mar 18 22:13:41 2017
SITE NAC:85C

-Tables
#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth,Slots
04,145.00000,0.00250,0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
05,155.00000,0.00250,0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
06,165.00000,0.00250,0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
07,145.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
08,150.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
09,155.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
10,160.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
11,165.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2

-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"05-0073","di",155.18250,"05-0073",155.18250,0,1
"05-0130","ad",155.32500,"04-3622",154.05500,1,0
"05-0208","c",155.52000,"04-3643",154.10750,1,0
"09-0146","v",155.18250/0,"08-3076",153.84500/0,1,27
"09-0147","v",155.18250/1,"08-3077",153.84500/1,1,27
"09-0260","v",155.32500/0,"08-3244",154.05500/0,1,3
"09-0261","v",155.32500/1,"08-3245",154.05500/1,1,3

-Neighbors
#Format: TowerID,TowerIDHex,System ID,Channel,Frequency
106,"T0106",855,"04-2578",151.44500
108,"T0108",855,"05-0160",155.40000
109,"T0109",855,"04-2557",151.39250
116,"T0110",855,"05-0442",156.10500
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FileVersion:8
-TowerInfo
System ID : 855
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 1-14
Tower Number (Hex) : T010E
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Flavor : Phase 2
Call Sign(s) :
Timestamp : Sat Mar 18 22:38:21 2017
SITE NAC: 85E

-Tables
#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth,Slots
04,145.00000,0.00250,0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
05,155.00000,0.00250,0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
06,165.00000,0.00250,0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
07,145.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
08,150.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
09,155.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
10,160.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
11,165.00000,0.00250,-0.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2

-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"05-0181","a",155.45250,"05-1537",158.84250,1,0
"05-0271","a",155.67750,"05-1693",159.23250,1,0
"05-0382","c",155.95500,"05-1750",159.37500,1,0

-Neighbors
#Format: TowerID,TowerIDHex,System ID,Channel,Frequency
102,"T0102",855,"05-0085",155.21250
115,"T010F",855,"05-0316",155.79000
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Is the Hawaii County's Police system encrypted now that it's digital
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I have not heard any encrypted communications... yet.
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Still uncertain as to weather Hi county digital system is actually encrypted request a simple answer Yes/No as I am not really knowledgeable in this area. Thinking about purchasing a new scanner if it's not encrypted thanks Danny
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I think my answer was fairly clear, I'm just telling you my experience so far in the past week. I'm not going to give you a flat out Yes/No, because I don't know what their plans are for the future. I'm just telling you that so far I have not heard any encryption.
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Hi I am thinking about purchasing a Uniden BCD 436 since it looks like Hawaii County is not encrypted at this time. Is ok for me to ask if you think this would be good on the Big Island? Thanks for your help & great information Danny'
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I should be fine. Another option is the BCD325P2 that should work just fine too.
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Ok great thanks for the feed back re BCD436 etc.
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Just want to thank whomever is updating the Hawaii County TGs it is much appreciated. It's been so long since I had to program my BCD 396XT I had lost my PC cable so re-ordered and just finished programing the scanner this morning. Looks to be a lot of dead spots especially in the Pohakuloa area for fire and police. I am currently monitoring to see what TGs are broadcasting. Other than Pohakuloa TGs I have heard Medic 9 talking on the Hilo med group fairly clear, which brings up the question: Is the Hilo med TG digital?
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Just want to thank whomever is updating the Hawaii County TGs it is much appreciated. It's been so long since I had to program my BCD 396XT I had lost my PC cable so re-ordered and just finished programing the scanner this morning. Looks to be a lot of dead spots especially in the Pohakuloa area for fire and police. I am currently monitoring to see what TGs are broadcasting. Other than Pohakuloa TGs I have heard Medic 9 talking on the Hilo med group fairly clear, which brings up the question: Is the Hilo med TG digital?
The Hawaii County system is P25 phase 2, the 396XT is phase 1. Pohakuloa is phase 1. The state medicom system is still analog on 453.4, however the license was updated to add P25 phase 1. HIRIN is also phase 1.
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Old 03-23-2017, 4:44 PM
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Thank you. So I guess my BCD396XT is basically a paperweight and incapable of receiving P25 Phase II spectrum. Oh well, might be able to use on the mainland if I run across Phase I systems.

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Old 03-23-2017, 9:11 PM
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I just talked to a ranking Officer with Hawaii County Police who indicated that Police/Fire Transmissions on the Big Island of Hawaii are encrypted. I haven't been able to confirm that however. Anyone with any information to clarify this woul be appreciated
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Old 03-24-2017, 3:42 AM
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My analog scanner doesn't work anymore (of course). What should I buy now?
Cannot get used to not having my scanner.
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Old 03-24-2017, 1:26 PM
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Fire control has been dispatching on TG 6505. Looks like they are patching 6502 and 6503 into 6505 during the tone out. I will submit 6505 to the database.
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