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Old 11-10-2008, 02:55 AM
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Heard about ten minutes ago on 5.885.00
She was using the same pad as last time. Wonder what meaning it has this time around.
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Heard about ten minutes ago on 5.885.00
She was using the same pad as last time. Wonder what meaning it has this time around.
I also heard her on 17.515 at 00.00UTC on Saturday. I finally gave up on her at 15 after...I was holding out for a break or unkey but she wore me out
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I've been hearing her for the past few weekends, usually late on Sunday night around the same time.

I too usually give up on her after a few minutes, but got to hear the "finale" a week or so ago. I was able to hear her a few weeks ago on a Yaesu VX-5, an old RS DX-342, and my IC-746 with a crappy indoor wire I've got strung up on a wall.
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No emocionarse, ella es una grasa de cerdo con una cara para la radio.
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I've noticed they'll often run a dead carrier for some time just before they actually start.

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Cuban numbers stations using either voice, CW, MCW, and sometime RDFT are active just about every hour on the hour. Propagation is your only limitation.

I spend the majority of my listening time on them from Southern Cal, so if I can hear 'em, just about anybody can. One of their skeds is right in the middle of the ham 30-meter band (10125 CW).

The ENIGMA group on Yahoo, while primarily focused on Europe (the E in the acronym-name stands for European) and the middle east, there are a few of us active there who chase Cubans. They have a newsletter that has bunches of freqs. A few Israeli MOSSAD messages (groups of NATO phonetics) are making it across the ocean at this time, also. I haven't heard any yet, though.
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God bless regular-expression translators!

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Wonder what meaning it has this time around.

the invasion begins tomorrow...grab your machete and head for the bunkers ! :-)

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Ya know what was strange with this broadcast? The dead carrier came at the end of the transmission and her voice faded out more and more as the dead carrier got stronger and stronger. Eventually, after about five or seven more minutes under the carrier..poof! She was gone!
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I also heard her on 17.515 at 00.00UTC on Saturday. I finally gave up on her at 15 after...I was holding out for a break or unkey but she wore me out
That's the beauty of using a human voice that was recorded onto digital media and played on the air using a computer that loops it endlessly. As I pointed out before in the first post...she used the same numerical pad as she used about maybe two weeks ago when I last had time to tune in. 5.885.00 seems to be a near constant for that station on Saturday evenings.

I wonder how many stations there are using her voice?
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"Be not touched, she is a grease of hog with a face for the radio."

Emoción and toque conjugate a little differently. Then maybe I should have said "No emocionarse, ella es una cerdo grasiento con una cara para la radio." Oh well, the point is what sounds sexy on radio may not be suitable for TV and usually isn't if you've seen the air staff around here.

"I've noticed they'll often run a dead carrier for some time just before they actually start."

Most shortwave stations do. Older transmitters must be tuned up by hand after a band change and while new digital controlled units do it in seconds automatically there is the matter of electronically slewing the vertical takeoff angle of the antenna to put the strongest possible signal into the target area. Pulsing the transmitter and listening to the return signal (backscatter) between pulses accomplishes this. It's kinda like OTHR with a difference, a technique that's been around for decades, the carrier isn't really dead, you can see the pulses on an oscilloscope.

"The dead carrier came at the end of the transmission and her voice faded out more and more as the dead carrier got stronger and stronger."

Two possibilities here, one is broadcast stations and numbers stations are one and the same. Patching audio is a fairly complex affair and things often go wrong with ancient equipment, then there are some pretty lousy operating engineers. The other is just as likely, another station was tuning up on frequency and eventually swamped the first one. The beauty of "boat anchor" receivers is you can switch the AGC off, turn up the AF gain and use the RF gain as a volume control. That way you can dig the weaker signal out from under the stronger one.

"That's the beauty of using a human voice that was recorded onto digital media and played on the air using a computer that loops it endlessly."

Close but no cigar. Each word is recorded separately and the "text" compiled by computer. It's extremely simple for numbers, the groups are typed into text and read by the voice synthesizer, even the groups may be compiled by computer from the message to be sent. A more complex system is the use of phones (voice sounds) compiled into words like Perfect Paul and Paula on the NWS VHF broadcasts. If you have Windows you have Microsoft Sam, he can be a lot of fun to play with if you can find his hiding place.

"I wonder how many stations there are using her voice?"

Every one since sometime in the 60s when I discovered her.
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dang,, i wish i could catch her.. all i get is some guy in california shouting about the death of civil liberties.. and you to call 888-liberty
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dang,, i wish i could catch her.. all i get is some guy in california shouting about the death of civil liberties.. and you to call 888-liberty
Do you remember the freq? and the time of day you caught him? Thanks
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"dang,, i wish i could catch her.."

TCB, pretty hard to catch a greased pig now isn't it?
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TCB, pretty hard to catch a greased pig now isn't it?

well i just bought a coil antenna for the panasonic rf-4900.,. maybe that will help me.. as for being greased.. i'm always interested in something new,,
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The greased pig was a little (very little) joke in Spanish but seriously what is a "coil antenna"?
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take a round tube and wrap metal wire from top to bottom then make a lead from to your antenna base and connect it,, in theory, if the coil is 150 feet that is how much in hight ability it will give you.
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You could literely build one for $10 ($30 if you want one with 50-100ft coax)

Plus the slinky isnt going to do anything different than a longwire coming off the sheild(or ground what ever you want to call it)
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