New G3

[DPD1]

Looks like this will be a G5, but with added sync detect and VHF air... Looks pretty good.

http://www.etoncorp.com/product_card...uctDbId=916030

[DanTSX]

what!?

G5+Sync Detect?


SOLD!

[DPD1]

Yeah, I'll probably get one. But I'll wait a while, in case there's any bugs.

[Shortwavewave]

RDS has it sold for me, plus the Airband, and and and WOW looks like its gonna be great lets hope it doesnt have any kin to the 750.

[DanTSX]

Originally Posted by Shortwavewave

RDS has it sold for me, plus the Airband, and and and WOW looks like its gonna be great lets hope it doesnt have any kin to the 750.

The 750 should have all of these "new" features already.

This looks like a winner. But I really want a nice tabletop radio with a nice big room-filling speaker and a big VFO on it that is not an old museam piece.


My 7600GR is gonna be lonely

[poltergeisty]

Interesting reading.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_D...bcarrier_usage

http://www.rdslist.com/

[ka3jjz]

I wouldn't necessarily buy a radio because it had or didn't have RDBS. Fact is, last time I looked, there weren't all that many FM stations in my neck of the woods (central Maryland) that use it. Before I jumped on something like this, I'd do a little checking of the FM stations in your area. Get on one of the FM reflectors, talk to some folks at the WTFDA....research! Maybe even get a copy of the FM Atlas (if a more current version exists than 2005, that is)....

73 Mike

[brianj248]

my 7600 and e1 make me want any and all radios that incorporate the sync detector, but I'll believe it when I see it. Even though I see the ads and color photos, I saw the same with the kaito 2100 upgrade that never appeared. I'll keep my fingers crossed. Some I've talked to regarding this new unit are concerned about the success of a chinese made sync detector circuit because of the shortcomings of previous attempts. It would be great if sony or drake would build or sell the circuit to grundig for this unit as it appears drake will have no other design influence.

[kc2gog]

Originally Posted by ka3jjz

I wouldn't necessarily buy a radio because it had or didn't have RDBS. Fact is, last time I looked, there weren't all that many FM stations in my neck of the woods (central Maryland) that use it. Before I jumped on something like this, I'd do a little checking of the FM stations in your area. Get on one of the FM reflectors, talk to some folks at the WTFDA....research! Maybe even get a copy of the FM Atlas (if a more current version exists than 2005, that is)....

73 Mike

I thought the same thing. I had a rental car and was surprised it had RDS and pretty much every station populated info. Im in lower hudson valley New York. Milage may vary, but just a few years ago there was one station that had it around here, now most do. Might be worth a second look for you.

[DanTSX]

Originally Posted by brianj248

my 7600 and e1 make me want any and all radios that incorporate the sync detector, but I'll believe it when I see it. Even though I see the ads and color photos, I saw the same with the kaito 2100 upgrade that never appeared. I'll keep my fingers crossed. Some I've talked to regarding this new unit are concerned about the success of a chinese made sync detector circuit because of the shortcomings of previous attempts. It would be great if sony or drake would build or sell the circuit to grundig for this unit as it appears drake will have no other design influence.

I don't think that it is out of the reach of the Chinese industry to produce it and make it work well ( that is saying A LOT from me). This IS 20 year old technology ya' know. Sangaen has had it on their radios under $300 since what? 1994 on the 909? But my fear is that the circuit is going to be an "overachiever" of sorts.

I can hear the "wheeeeeeeeeOOOOOOOooooohhhhhhhOOOSSSSSSSHhhhhhhhh hhhMmmmmmmmmmmmmoOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSTTtttthhhhhhh'
tracking away already

That is to say that it will either going right past the sync and trying to re-align, or pull-off the desired frequency on side band. (not sure if those are the best words technically, but I "get" what the S-Det does) My othe fear is that it would produce interference of it's own.


But it's a little handlheld, so what the heck! Not bad! They are giving us what we want! That is worth gratitude and not criticism.

If you want a serious radio w/ sync detect, then there are ALWAYS Sony 2010's on the market in good shape.


Stick the Sync Detect in the 750 table top and i'd pick one up for $300 as long as it sounds okay and isnt deaf. Put RDS on it and i'll write the check now.

[electricman]

I was all set on purchasing a Sony ICF-SW7600GR:

Sony ICF-SW7600GR Shortwave Radio, Sony icfsw7600gr

Until I seen the G3:

Grundig G3 Globe Traveler Radio Receiver

My 2 main interests with the Sony is 1 the Sync Detect:

"A special Synchronous Detector circuit reduces fading and annoying "beat" frequency interference from adjacent stations as well as distortion due to fading shortwave reception."

And 2 the ability to scan memory channels.

Reading the posts here I am a little confused on the Sync Detector on the Sony?

I think it is awesome that this radio has the VHF Air Band and RDS, but these are not selling points for me. I have the VHF Airband covered with my analog scanners and have RDS on my DX-398.

I guess I will just have to wait and see how the reviews come in for this radio.

[brianj248]

the 7600 holds sync loc very well, but once your batteries are half dead, it has a harder time with it. I think the 7600 is outstanding in all other areas too, especially ssb reception. The build quality is also top notch as it is made in Japan and not china. One reservation to have would be audio quality, as the 7600 is really only good for low volume close-to-the-radio listening.
I will be suprised and very impressed if the g3 can match the 7600 in terms of sync detector, mw and ssb performance. And I can't see it matching the build quality of the 7600 either.
So why am I interested in the g3, because I am so in love with the sync detect circuit that I want to own every radio that has one, just to play with it if nothing else, and yes a 2010 is on the radar.

[DanTSX]

Originally Posted by E-Man

I was all set on purchasing a Sony ICF-SW7600GR:

Sony ICF-SW7600GR Shortwave Radio, Sony icfsw7600gr

Until I seen the G3:

Grundig G3 Globe Traveler Radio Receiver

My 2 main interests with the Sony is 1 the Sync Detect:

"A special Synchronous Detector circuit reduces fading and annoying "beat" frequency interference from adjacent stations as well as distortion due to fading shortwave reception."

And 2 the ability to scan memory channels.

Reading the posts here I am a little confused on the Sync Detector on the Sony?

I think it is awesome that this radio has the VHF Air Band and RDS, but these are not selling points for me. I have the VHF Airband covered with my analog scanners and have RDS on my DX-398.

I guess I will just have to wait and see how the reviews come in for this radio.

I have a 7600GR. The Sync Detect is nice and I would miss it, but the thing making me want a G3 when they come out is the friggin tuning knob. Tuning buttons suck! The 7600GR does everything well, but it is ZERO fun to go hunting around the HF bands for far-away broadcasts. I'd say wait! But having said that, my 7600 goes nowhere.

[brianj248]

amen to the tuning knob

[electricman]

Thanks Dan, lack of a tuning knob seems to be the biggest complaint that I have read about the 7600GR. I have also read that some users use the memory channels as a work around for hunting thru the bands.

I would like to be able to set up the memory channels with freqs that I am interested in monitoring (ones that I have confirmed activity and also freqs that others have reported activity) and then use the memory scan to scan those channels. Seems like this would be an efficient way for catching those broadcasts that I always seem to miss?

I see the G3 has 700 memory channels.

[Highlander_821]

I'd like to see HD reception become a standard feature on this type of radio.

[gcgrotz]

Originally Posted by DanTSX

The 750 should have all of these "new" features already.

This looks like a winner. But I really want a nice tabletop radio with a nice big room-filling speaker and a big VFO on it that is not an old museam piece.


My 7600GR is gonna be lonely

Dan: Your 7600 would love to go on vacation with you. I have an old 7600F that has been all around the world with me. Throw that AM switch to 9 KHz when you're away from North America and cruise the local bands.

[Icom_Junkie]

This is the first news of the G3 for me.
Looks like the G3 is a "Big Boy" to the Sony 7600gr
700 Memory spots would be helpful.
Wait and see if the Grundig G3 is worth the upgrade.
.

[CLynch7]

As of today, an email response from Eton says couple of months yet, they still don't have a date.
As much as I want one, I may start saving my pennies for a 2010

[trixwagen]

I received my G3 today. I ordered it from AAFES a few months ago so it should start appearing elsewhere.

I haven't spent much time with it but so far the synchronous detector seems to have some difficulty locking on a frequency. Could just be my radio, who knows? Is it an over hyped feature? I was never that impressed with it on my Sony 7600GR, either.

Sensitivity is very good for a portable. Better than the G6 I tried out and it doesn't overload, well so far, anyway.

The screen lights up with a nice white-blue glow, but the instruction manual says the keys are supposed to light up, too. Not on my radio. Could be one of those "subject to change without notice" features.

I haven't tried a G5 or de1103, but I think the knob is the same. Too small, in my opinion, and it wobbles a bit. Still, a small knob is better than no knob (Sony 7600GR).

Further testing is needed, especially not so close to this noisy computer. I don't know if the G3 is really that much of an upgrade over a G5. I assume ssb might be better. The G3's RDS is mildly informative, when it works.

If I wasn't so impatient, it might have been better to get a G3 after Grundig works out the bugs and does some upgrades. How many upgrade versions of the de1103 were there? Three?

I will get back to you about the air band (I have pretty low expectations) and ssb (still optimistic).