Finding talkgroup ID's

venom6733 · #1 (**permalink**) 10-05-2009, 07:02 PM

In delaware county ive been using id tracker 2 to track new ids...im scanning emergency radio services motorola type 2 that arent part of the indiana safe-t project Emergency Radio Service (800 Mhz) Trunking System, Various, Indiana - Scanner Frequencies ive came acrossed several ids and none are on this page...how do i go about looking them up and finding out what they are??? ive tried the fcc website but they dont put ids...just freqs.
here they are in case u can find them
114 912 976 1360 25664 25680 25696 29248 32320 45184 45200 45216 45232 45248
45344 45360 45376

Thanks for any help i might get

rdale · #2 (**permalink**) 10-05-2009, 07:52 PM

There is no lookup system. You listen in and correlate the ID to a user.

W9NES · #3 (**permalink**) 10-05-2009, 09:00 PM

Go to Safe-t and look up Delaware County and then look for the talkgroups you need.

rdale · #4 (**permalink**) 10-05-2009, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by W9NES

Go to Safe-t and look up Delaware County and then look for the talkgroups you need.

Nice try - but don't confuse him.

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Originally Posted by venom6733

im scanning emergency radio services motorola type 2 that arent part of the indiana safe-t project

ddoorman · #5 (**permalink**) 10-05-2009, 10:59 PM

The first thing you should do is to gather together a pen/pencil and a tablet of paper. Then turn on your scanner to a single channel and listen to it for an extended period of time over several days. As you do this take notes as to location, type of call, call signs, time of call, etc. The more information you write down the better off you will be and you may be able to ID the source.

Keep your notes and read the newspaper concerning local events relative to PD, FD, etc. This may allow you to equate a call or a series of calls to a particular event and thus allowing you to ID. This is the way it was done many years ago before we had Police Call, RadioReference, etc. This seems to me to be an aspect of this hobby that many have forgotten and many new members never use.

W9NES · #6 (**permalink**) 10-06-2009, 06:51 AM

Sorry R-dale, I did not confuse him.If I need infomation on the talkgroups I go to the database for Safe-t and look at the talkgroups and then match up the talkgroup that I am getting.Anyone can do this and it is very easy to do.

rdale · #7 (**permalink**) 10-06-2009, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by W9NES

If I need infomation on the talkgroups I go to the database for Safe-t and look at the talkgroups

Nothing personal but it sounds like you are confused. The database for Safe-T only includes talkgroups for the Safe-T system. Nothing more. Not MECA, not IPL, nothing but Safe-T. He said he is NOT scanning the Safe-T system, but other local systems, so those talkgroups would NOT be listed in the Safe-T database.

This is the system he is looking for ID's to - http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=2197

W9NES · #8 (**permalink**) 10-06-2009, 10:02 AM

All he can do is write down the talkgroups on a piece of paper and listen to what they are being used for.That will tell you a lot and then post them here on RR.Com and update the database for others that also need that infomation.Again if ever in doubt please consult the data base under Delaware County and you will find the infomation you are seeking.

w8fcc · #9 (**permalink**) 10-06-2009, 03:35 PM

I think the poster is confused Safe T and Emergency Radio Service are two separate systems and have nothing to do with each other Safe T supports Fire Police Where as the company Emergency Radio Service supports two way radios for use for taxies, buses small businesses and maybe some county’s parks depts and other kinds of stuff with nothing to do with Public Safety FD/PD there might be some local ambulance service on there or security firms If the ID's are not listed in the RR DB then as said before just listen and you will find out what they are.

usswood · #10 (**permalink**) 10-07-2009, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by W9NES

All he can do is write down the talkgroups on a piece of paper and listen to what they are being used for.That will tell you a lot and then post them here on RR.Com and update the database for others that also need that infomation.Again if ever in doubt please consult the data base under Delaware County and you will find the infomation you are seeking.

He's the one thats confused and ur not helping W8FCC

venom6733 · #11 (**permalink**) 10-07-2009, 05:49 AM

Didnt mean to start a bunch of crap with this post...its just most id# i wrote down in the eairler post arent listed under hoosier safe t and for example...talkgroup 29248 which is one i found that is listed says its Safe t County EMS Operations for Ohio county...about 7 counties south of me and im hearing agriculture stuff like starting on rows of corn and combine problems...ill do the pencil/paper thing for a while and see whats up...thanks guys

W9NES · #12 (**permalink**) 10-07-2009, 08:03 AM

24298 is a vaild talkgroup for Ohio Co. EMS. If in doubt please look at the Safe-t database under Ohio County.I just looked there and it is listed as a Safe-t talkgroup.

venom6733 · #13 (**permalink**) 10-07-2009, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by W9NES

24298 is a vaild talkgroup for Ohio Co. EMS. If in doubt please look at the Safe-t database under Ohio County.I just looked there and it is listed as a Safe-t talkgroup.

as i said eairler...these ids arent part of the Safe t system and also i live 7 counties north of ohio county and the 24298 id was talking about combine problems and workin in cornfields bundling corn...i doubt ohio county ems does corn removal

rdale · #14 (**permalink**) 10-07-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by W9NES

24298 is a vaild talkgroup for Ohio Co. EMS. If in doubt please look at the Safe-t database under Ohio County.I just looked there and it is listed as a Safe-t talkgroup.

Come on, stop messing around. He's not listening to Safe-T, so that wouldn't be the talkgroup he's hearing.

I know you aren't involved with emergency services / public safety, but you should be able to figure out that if people are talking about a combine problem or rows of corn -- that's not ambulance chatter. You are in Indiana, so those terms should be familiar.

venom6733 · #15 (**permalink**) 10-07-2009, 05:18 PM

These are the freqs for SAFE T for muncie...855.73750, 866.05000, 866.22500a, 866.31250, 866.42500, 866.60000, 866.95000, 867.10000, 867.42500, 867.63750, 867.95000, 868.26250c, 868.77500, 868.95000, 868.98750 also found here---> Indiana Project Hoosier SAFE-T Trunking System, Statewide, Indiana - Scanner Frequencies

These are the ones i was questioning about which is listed as another emergency radio service for Muncie
854.56250, 856.01250, 857.01250, 859.01250c, 860.01250, 860.58750a also found here---> Emergency Radio Service (800 Mhz) Trunking System, Various, Indiana - Scanner Frequencies

These are 2 seperate pages...no 2 frequencies match....one is Safe t and one isnt for thoes who think im confused. It was just a simple question and i didnt mean to get people arguing with each other i was just wanting to update the page that isnt safe t with talkgroup info for unknown id's.

venom6733 · #16 (**permalink**) 10-07-2009, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by w8fcc

I think the poster is confused Safe T and Emergency Radio Service are two separate systems and have nothing to do with each other .

I think your confused...as i stated in my first post and i quote "im scanning emergency radio services motorola type 2 that arent part of the indiana safe-t project" thats 'arent..as in are not'

alphabravo1 · #17 (**permalink**) 10-07-2009, 08:01 PM

In my area, they used to use the old Fire Frequency non-repeater at that time) for "working" in the fields and other misc stuff.

The only way to figure out use is by listening and writing them for a best guess unless you have inside information or user.
Also, do you have a fleet map set up for the ERS system?

venom6733 · #18 (**permalink**) 10-07-2009, 08:21 PM

according to the webpage...its type 2 and it doesnt need a subfleet
as far as i can gather type 1 needs the subfleet...no problem hearing them...just figuring out who they are

djl998 · #19 (**permalink**) 10-07-2009, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by venom6733

These are 2 seperate pages...no 2 frequencies match....one is Safe t and one isnt for thoes who think im confused. It was just a simple question and i didnt mean to get people arguing with each other

Don't worry about it. You should just adopt a general policy of not paying attention to W9NES. As for figuring out talkgroups, all you can do is listen and figure out who it is by what they're saying.

frankcastle · #20 (**permalink**) 10-08-2009, 08:23 AM

Maybe it is a large farm operation that rents a radio system from ERS during harvest season. That is something that ERS does. We have a very large festival every year in my county. ERS comes in and sets up a digital UHF repeater system to handle all festival communication.