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Old 12-04-2012, 8:51 PM
   
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Ok, so a few weeks ago I came across two Motorola HT1250's that are UHF. I was talking to a friend of mine and we wanted to use these for when were out on our quads or when we are out plowing snow or what ever else. We both have the software to program the radios so that isnt a proublem. My question to you guys is, is this legal and would I need to get a licence from the fcc? The radios are programmed with channels that are not used in our area, we have checked.

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To use frequencies in the UHF band you will need licenses. Whether you get a GMRS or a HAM license is totally up to you. Those radios will work great for those. The other option would be to find two VHF radios to use on the MURS channels. These are a set of VHF frequencies that can be used without a license with a maximum power output of 2 watts.
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Ok, so a few weeks ago I came across two Motorola HT1250's that are UHF. I was talking to a friend of mine and we wanted to use these for when were out on our quads or when we are out plowing snow or what ever else. We both have the software to program the radios so that isnt a proublem. My question to you guys is, is this legal and would I need to get a licence from the fcc? The radios are programmed with channels that are not used in our area, we have checked.

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All radios except FRS and MURS radios require an FCC issued license. Operating on a frequency your aren't licensed for or authorized to use by someone else who is licensed can subject you to fines and forfeiture of equipment by the FCC. Furthermore, you could be interfering with someone and not even know it.

Best thing to do is for you and your friends to get GMRS licenses as the other poster advised, as one license covers anyone in your immediate family. You can also use repeater systems on GMRS with permission of the repeater owner or put up your own repeater if you wish.
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Actually, it doesn't sound like GMRS is the right radio service for you. But there's some good news.

You mentioned "squads" and you also mentioned "snow plowing"

I don't know if this is for rescue or some municipal services but if so, you should try getting a license for and a frequency/pair in the government pool where your operations will be better coordinated from interference such as 5 year olds playing on their FRS radios. If you are eligible for a license there, you will be exempt from the filing fees.

If not, you should try to apply for a part 90 business pool- perhaps itinerant frequencies (itins. don't require coordination but must be shared with possibly many others).

If you went the GMRS route, everyone that uses the radios that isn't related to you would also have to get their license and there is the common belief amonst many GMRS users that business communications such as snow plowing isn't allowed and they will sometimes go to ridiculous lengths to advise you of such whether they are correct or not or whether they are breaking the law themselves. As it is, a part 90 license is cheaper over the course of a 10 year period than a GMRS license over that same time.

MURS is out because that's for VHF and you don't have VHF radios not to mention the radios you have aren't compliant with the MURS restrictions.

As others mentioned, to just program them up to a seeming unused frequency and transmit there without a license puts you at risk of criminal penalties.
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You mentioned "squads" and you also mentioned "snow plowing"
Quads not Squads - Four Wheelers - he is looking for something for he and his buddies to chat on.
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Quads not Squads - Four Wheelers - he is looking for something for he and his buddies to chat on.
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In that case the government pool is out.
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Can't they get a HAM technician's ticket and use simplex frequencies if there a few miles apart?!!
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Can't they get a HAM technician's ticket and use simplex frequencies if there a few miles apart?!!
Yes this is one of the things I mentioned
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Can't they get a HAM technician's ticket and use simplex frequencies if there a few miles apart?!!
where can I get more info on the technician's ticket?
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