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Old 10-18-2013, 2:17 PM
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I'm looking for a portable radio that can receive and transmit in all three bands. I work in the EMS field and I'm looking to purchase my own radio for reason too long to list here. We currently are dispatched by the local PD which operated in the 800 MHz, our talk around radio operated in the VHF and the local FD which works closely with us operate in the UHF, hence the need for a tri band radio. I need help finding one, as its been unbearable trying to find a good one.
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Since this doesn't appear to be Amateur radio related so I'm moving this to Industry Discussion.
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The only radio I'm aware of that will do vhf, uhf, and 800mhz is the Thales Liberty and they are very expensive.

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Old 10-18-2013, 9:21 PM
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There is also the Harris XG-100P portable radio:


http://www.harriscaprock.com/downloa...100P_Radio.pdf

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Expect to spend at least $4-5000 for a new one.
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You said that you are dispatched by the PD on 800 MHz. Do you need to talk back to the PD? If not find a nice used portable on their system and then a dual VHF/UHF radio. The two should be a lot cheaper than the Thales.
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You said that you are dispatched by the PD on 800 MHz. Do you need to talk back to the PD? If not find a nice used portable on their system and then a dual VHF/UHF radio. The two should be a lot cheaper than the Thales.
Yes we need to reply to acknowledge jobs. I will look into purchasing a used 800 mhz radio but the thought of walking with two radios is agonizing.
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Old 10-19-2013, 4:35 PM
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What is the 800 radio system (EDACS, SmartZone, P25)? If P25 the Harris Unity is a good fit if you have around $5,000 to spend.


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Old 10-20-2013, 12:16 AM
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Can I assume that you are not the only person with this problem? If so a cross band audio switch with a 800 & VHF mobile installed in a fire truck would serve everyone in range. That way you can use a VHF/UHF portable and have the 800 signal relayed via the VHF mobile.

I sold this device for several years to meet interoperability requirements for different public safety departments. It works great and is reasonably priced. The company I worked for made 14 of these units in hard plastic Platt cases with 800/UHF/VHF radios, AC/DC power supply, AC cord, DC cord and necessary mag mount antennas. A true portable interoperable radio system. http://ncsradio.com/commercial/C250.shtml

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It's cheaper to have a patching solution. Whether it be a crossband patch in the rigs or a dedicated frequency/repeater that is patched to your other departments/systems.

The cost of 2-3 of these multiband radios would pay for a dedicated patch solution. Outfitting a whole department would break the bank... which is why most manufacturers (Like Motorola) stick to 1-2 bands per radio.
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Thanks fellas for the input
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My dept bought several of these, and to a large degree, they were a failed experiment for us. Not necessarily because they didn't work, but because they are more complex to operate than need be. In my opinion (based on experience & feedback from several users), they are better suited for the ham goober and/or an individual skilled user, and not for commercial radios that may have several users with varied radio skills. We now use another similar device from another manufacturer that is largely idiot proof, and we like them much better.

Not trying to stomp on this recommendation, but just keep in mind if you look into this, there are other similar solutions out there. Good luck.
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they are better suited for the ham goober and/or an individual skilled user
A most interesting play of words! ham goober and skilled user used interchangeably..
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Hello all,
I'm looking for a portable radio that can receive and transmit in all three bands. I work in the EMS field and I'm looking to purchase my own radio for reason too long to list here. We currently are dispatched by the local PD which operated in the 800 MHz, our talk around radio operated in the VHF and the local FD which works closely with us operate in the UHF, hence the need for a tri band radio. I need help finding one, as its been unbearable trying to find a good one.
If you're who I think you are...our talkaround is UHF, not VHF. It's HUDCEN that's on VHF.

There are UHF/VHF dual banders for cheap, there are 800/VHF dual banders for less cheap, there's the APX which will get you any two out of three (the only way I'm aware of to get UHF/800), and then there's the Harris Unity if you're willing to drop a few months' worth pay.
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Just to throw this out there, in most situations a patch is not ideal. Unless an end to end IP patch such as that of a P25 ISSI gateway you end up dealing with DAQ issues, emergency function issues, loss of RID/LID carry through and many other things. Patching (particularly using an audio gateway in the field) should always be a last resort.


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