Shawnee County chooses Motorola P-25 system

[Chauffeur6]

System created in the database. As soon as they go on the air and you guys can determine control channels, SysID/WACN and whether it's Phase I or Phase II, please submit that info. Have fun!

Topeka / Shawnee County (P25) Trunking System

[cinsu]

Originally Posted by Chauffeur6

System created in the database. As soon as they go on the air and you guys can determine control channels, SysID/WACN and whether it's Phase I or Phase II, please submit that info. Have fun!

Topeka / Shawnee County (P25) Trunking System

Wow, you don't mess around! From all the information I have read I don't believe there will be any phase II capable radios on the system from most agencies.

[KAA951]

A quick update on progress on the new Shawnee County / Topeka system. The new towers have been completed in the northwest and southeast areas of the county. System equipment and the microwave links still have to be installed.

The implementation plan is to have non-essential services switch to the system first (public works and mass transit) to work out any system bugs. Then, emergency services will switch over from analog to digital. This is a huge project that includes replacing radios in nearly all emergency vehicles in the county and issuing new portable radios to all firefighters countywide.

[PVPD730]

Originally Posted by KAA951

A quick update on progress on the new Shawnee County / Topeka system. The new towers have been completed in the northwest and southeast areas of the county. System equipment and the microwave links still have to be installed.

The implementation plan is to have non-essential services switch to the system first (public works and mass transit) to work out any system bugs. Then, emergency services will switch over from analog to digital. This is a huge project that includes replacing radios in nearly all emergency vehicles in the county and issuing new portable radios to all firefighters countywide.

Any word on encryption for the L.E. side? Last I heard was TPD/SNCO planned to leave the routine dispatch channels open, while tac/specialized ops would be encoded.

[KAA951]

Originally Posted by PVPD730

Any word on encryption for the L.E. side? Last I heard was TPD/SNCO planned to leave the routine dispatch channels open, while tac/specialized ops would be encoded.

Still the word. However, unlike the state system, they have built in OTAP / OTAR (Over the Air Programming / Rekeying). So, if something happened to change their mind they could encrypt the whole system and radio attached to it with some simple keystrokes. Or, they could dynamically create a new talk group plan. End users wouldn't know if the talk group number changes. And, they can automatically rekeying the encryption periodically to frustrate any hacking attempts.

[cinsu]

Originally Posted by KAA951

Still the word. However, unlike the state system, they have built in OTAP / OTAR (Over the Air Programming / Rekeying). So, if something happened to change their mind they could encrypt the whole system and radio attached to it with some simple keystrokes. Or, they could dynamically create a new talk group plan. End users wouldn't know if the talk group number changes. And, they can automatically rekeying the encryption periodically to frustrate any hacking attempts.

Let me do some looking in my files here but I believe they dropped the OTAR in favor of a more expensive fire station alerting system (which they have now decided against and have put the money towards a new CAD system instead) If I remember correctly OTAP was a separate option and they kept it.

Edit: I can't find it now. If it is still around I will go back and listen to the final commission meeting where the system was approved, I think Lance Royer talks about removing it there.

[PVPD730]

Originally Posted by cinsu

Let me do some looking in my files here but I believe they dropped the OTAR in favor of a more expensive fire station alerting system (which they have now decided against and have put the money towards a new CAD system instead) If I remember correctly OTAP was a separate option and they kept it.

Edit: I can't find it now. If it is still around I will go back and listen to the final commission meeting where the system was approved, I think Lance Royer talks about removing it there.

I'm not sure what type of gear they're going for, but I believe OTAP comes standard on the APX units. Not sure about the XTS/XTL radios, though.

[cinsu]

Originally Posted by PVPD730

I'm not sure what type of gear they're going for, but I believe OTAP comes standard on the APX units. Not sure about the XTS/XTL radios, though.

Both features are available on both style of radio, it's in the software that they purchase and in the case of OTAR a piece of hardware at the controller.

Most if not all county public safety agencies will be getting APXs, the other county agencies will get XTS/XTLs or whatever they purchase that is P25 able.

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[KAA951]

The rest of the new freqs for Shawnee County (15 channels total).

WQSI611

854.6125 FB2 100p 420e Units: 1 8K10F1D 8K10F1E
856.5875 FB2 100p 420e Units: 1 8K10F1D 8K10F1E
857.5875 FB2 100p 420e Units: 1 8K10F1D 8K10F1E
858.5875 FB2 100p 420e Units: 1 8K10F1D 8K10F1E
857.0875 FB2 100p 420e Units: 1 8K10F1D 8K10F1E
858.0375 FB2 100p 420e Units: 1 8K10F1D 8K10F1E
858.0875 FB2 100p 420e Units: 1 8K10F1D 8K10F1E

[nec911]

Originally Posted by cinsu

Both features are available on both style of radio, it's in the software that they purchase and in the case of OTAR a piece of hardware at the controller.

Most if not all county public safety agencies will be getting APXs, the other county agencies will get XTS/XTLs or whatever they purchase that is P25 able.

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I asked in a meeting the other day and found out that we will have the OTAR on our P25 here in Shawnee County. Which is encouraging for those of us who have to respond and put get comms plans for IMT and etc.

I have been helping some agencies with their radio orders and mostly Fire and LEO are going to have the APX. EMS, Library, Hospitals, EMA, Transportation, Public Works, City services, Airport are staying with either 1500's or 2500's. Esp since Harris, Kenwood and Motorola is having some good sales going on right now. In EMA I am looking at the Tri-band radios for interop and they are priced pretty good as well.

[KAA951]

Originally Posted by nec911

In EMA I am looking at the Tri-band radios for interop and they are priced pretty good as well.

Order one for me!