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Old 06-07-2009, 12:30 PM
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Default Crusade Activity on RCS

There seems to be some Crusade for Children activity on the RCS trunking channel, along with the usual churchill downs stuff. Just a heads up.
Crusade 3, Crusade 3. Anybody.

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Old 06-07-2009, 01:36 PM
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There seems to be some Crusade for Children activity on the RCS trunking channel, along with the usual churchill downs stuff. Just a heads up.
Crusade 3, Crusade 3. Anybody.
What Talk Groups?
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Old 06-07-2009, 04:10 PM
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Set up a wildcard talkgroup using those 4 control freqs. Set your software to create new groups from hits off the wildcard.
After all the derby crap, I just dropped the fleet groups, so you are on your own their.
All I know is I am getting alot of activity on 49344 and ??
Sorry I don't have my software set up, nor can I access my full list of talkgroups from this trunk group. Anyway I dropped the fleet group thing cause I was sick of messing with it. They change a lot of stuff on a very regular basis with a bunch of new radios added for events so maybe I was missing stuff maybe not but without fleet groups I feel I have dropped one layer of complexity off the grid and still I am able to hear everything. Everything. Try 49344
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The Fleet Map is essential to operation, yes you can hear everything without it. But it will not track properly.

Plus, GRE/RS scanners have a reception/decode delay on Type I systems, This means you miss some traffic, very slight, but you will miss replies, this does not exist on Uniden's. I know this because I often monitor the system with three different scanners.

And if you hold on a talkgroup, you will miss replies without a fleetmap programmed.
I believe 49344 is part of Kosair Charities.

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Those were used at the WHAS studios to shepherd people around.

Crusade 3,4 and so on are fire department coordinators who meet and greet arriving fire departments at WHAS.
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If the TGIDs seem to be permanently assigned and someone will fashion a submission with this info, I'll add it to the DB since this is an annual event...
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If the TGIDs seem to be permanently assigned and someone will fashion a submission with this info, I'll add it to the DB since this is an annual event...
That's why the Fleetmap is so important...
ID change depending on which radio is being used, the change is not a lot, just within the assigned Block. Trouble is with this system some radios don't talk much at all, so it's hard to tell if a rental or a regular part of the company.

That would translate to 600-03; Did we monitor this during Derby?
Label Kosair Crusade Ops?

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I understand that problem!
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Old 06-11-2009, 02:46 PM
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I don't know how many companies use this service, but there are quite a few.

-Churchill Downs
-Supply Chains Solutions - ups subsidiary maybe its just a security company
-UPS Late at night (totally guessing here but I tracked flights (using flighttracker.com) that they talked about, and they were UPS) 2 talkgroups
-Brown Hotel limo service
-4th Str. Live Security
-Some kind of property management company or appliance repair. Dishwashers, airconditioners, heaters.
- There were new radios (talkgroups) brought out for the memorial day events at the river.
- Some kind of city landscape management company.
-- ?????

Whoever was using 49344, and there were several groups(crusade 1,crusade 2, crusade 3), all came up on this same talkgroup every time, with seemingly no delay. I guess that means those radios were Type II ?? .

There is a delay on some talkgroups.

Here is every group I have picked up since a little before derby. Haven't time to label any of them. I had the scanner running 24 hours a day there for a while and didn't pick up any new talkgroups for awhile until memorial day when 3 popped up. Unfortunately I don't have that handy, although I could probably figure it out from looking at old log files.

80 Group 80 0
144 Group 144 0
784 Group 784 0
4944 Group 4944 0
7056 Group 7056 0
9808 Group 9808 0
20544 Group 20544 0
20560 Group 20560 0
22144 Group 22144 0
22160 Group 22160 0
22592 Group 22592 0 Property Management Co
22608 Group 22608 0
22624 Group 22624 0
23104 Group 23104 0
23120 Group 23120 0
27200 Group 27200 0
27264 Group 27264 0
41024 Group 41024 0
41088 Group 41088 0
43584 Group 43584 0
48704 Group 48704 0
48720 Group 48720 0
49280 Group 49280 0
49344 Group 49344 0
49408 Group 49408 0
49472 Group 49472 0
50240 Group 50240 0
50256 Group 50256 0
50272 Group 50272 0
50288 Group 50288 0
50640 Group 50640 0
52800 Group 52800 0
52992 Group 52992 0
54336 Group 54336 0
57600 Group 57600 0
57648 Group 57648 0
57664 Group 57664 0
57680 Group 57680 0
57728 Group 57728 0
57856 Group 57856 0
57888 Group 57888 0
57904 Group 57904 0
57920 Group 57920 0
57936 Group 57936 0
57952 Group 57952 0
57968 Group 57968 0
57984 Group 57984 0
58000 Group 58000 0
58112 Group 58112 0
58144 Group 58144 0
58160 Group 58160 0
58176 Group 58176 0
58368 Group 58368 0
58400 Group 58400 0
58512 Group 58512 0
59648 Group 59648 0
59664 Group 59664 0
59680 Group 59680 0
59696 Group 59696 0
59712 Group 59712 0
59728 Group 59728 0
59744 Group 59744 0
59776 Group 59776 0
59904 Group 59904 0
59920 Group 59920 0
59936 Group 59936 0
59968 Group 59968 0
60208 Group 60208 0
60288 Group 60288 0
60512 Group 60512 0
60528 Group 60528 0
60560 Group 60560 0
60736 Group 60736 0
60752 Group 60752 0
60800 Group 60800 0
60816 Group 60816 0
Wildcard Group Wildcard 0


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Didn't want to make it sound like there was a conflict or anything but I had no idea some of these trunking systems would be so frustrating. Hope those #s help.
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The latenight UPS traffic chrizby mentioned is pretty interesting. It's definitely UPS-related (I've also checked flight numbers and ramp assignments), but I don't think it's actually UPS corporate since UPS has their own big honkin' trunk system. I'm thinking it might be a contractor or something that does something for/with UPS. Just like chrizby, pure guess.

If it is UPS corporate, maybe it's a part of their logistics ops? They would be relatively low volume compared to the rest, and UPS has acquired a lot of their logistics groups so they not be outfitted with UPS radios yet. Anyone else have any info?
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