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06-07-2009, 12:30 PM
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Crusade Activity on RCS
There seems to be some Crusade for Children activity on the RCS trunking channel, along with the usual churchill downs stuff. Just a heads up.
Crusade 3, Crusade 3. Anybody.
Last edited by chrizby; 06-07-2009 at 12:42 PM..
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06-07-2009, 01:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chrizby
There seems to be some Crusade for Children activity on the RCS trunking channel, along with the usual churchill downs stuff. Just a heads up.
Crusade 3, Crusade 3. Anybody.
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What Talk Groups?
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06-07-2009, 04:10 PM
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Set up a wildcard talkgroup using those 4 control freqs. Set your software to create new groups from hits off the wildcard.
After all the derby crap, I just dropped the fleet groups, so you are on your own their.
All I know is I am getting alot of activity on 49344 and ??
Sorry I don't have my software set up, nor can I access my full list of talkgroups from this trunk group. Anyway I dropped the fleet group thing cause I was sick of messing with it. They change a lot of stuff on a very regular basis with a bunch of new radios added for events so maybe I was missing stuff maybe not but without fleet groups I feel I have dropped one layer of complexity off the grid and still I am able to hear everything. Everything. Try 49344
good luck
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06-07-2009, 07:09 PM
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The Fleet Map is essential to operation, yes you can hear everything without it. But it will not track properly.
Plus, GRE/RS scanners have a reception/decode delay on Type I systems, This means you miss some traffic, very slight, but you will miss replies, this does not exist on Uniden's. I know this because I often monitor the system with three different scanners.
And if you hold on a talkgroup, you will miss replies without a fleetmap programmed.
I believe 49344 is part of Kosair Charities.
Last edited by alphabravo1; 06-07-2009 at 07:20 PM..
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06-08-2009, 10:49 PM
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Those were used at the WHAS studios to shepherd people around.
Crusade 3,4 and so on are fire department coordinators who meet and greet arriving fire departments at WHAS.
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06-10-2009, 11:15 PM
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If the TGIDs seem to be permanently assigned and someone will fashion a submission with this info, I'll add it to the DB since this is an annual event...
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06-11-2009, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by unitcharlie
If the TGIDs seem to be permanently assigned and someone will fashion a submission with this info, I'll add it to the DB since this is an annual event...
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That's why the Fleetmap is so important...
ID change depending on which radio is being used, the change is not a lot, just within the assigned Block. Trouble is with this system some radios don't talk much at all, so it's hard to tell if a rental or a regular part of the company.
That would translate to 600-03; Did we monitor this during Derby?
Label Kosair Crusade Ops?
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06-11-2009, 08:54 AM
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I understand that problem!
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06-11-2009, 02:46 PM
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I don't know how many companies use this service, but there are quite a few.
-Churchill Downs
-Supply Chains Solutions - ups subsidiary maybe its just a security company
-UPS Late at night (totally guessing here but I tracked flights (using flighttracker.com) that they talked about, and they were UPS) 2 talkgroups
-Brown Hotel limo service
-4th Str. Live Security
-Some kind of property management company or appliance repair. Dishwashers, airconditioners, heaters.
- There were new radios (talkgroups) brought out for the memorial day events at the river.
- Some kind of city landscape management company.
-- ?????
Whoever was using 49344, and there were several groups(crusade 1,crusade 2, crusade 3), all came up on this same talkgroup every time, with seemingly no delay. I guess that means those radios were Type II ?? .
There is a delay on some talkgroups.
Here is every group I have picked up since a little before derby. Haven't time to label any of them. I had the scanner running 24 hours a day there for a while and didn't pick up any new talkgroups for awhile until memorial day when 3 popped up. Unfortunately I don't have that handy, although I could probably figure it out from looking at old log files.
80 Group 80 0
144 Group 144 0
784 Group 784 0
4944 Group 4944 0
7056 Group 7056 0
9808 Group 9808 0
20544 Group 20544 0
20560 Group 20560 0
22144 Group 22144 0
22160 Group 22160 0
22592 Group 22592 0 Property Management Co
22608 Group 22608 0
22624 Group 22624 0
23104 Group 23104 0
23120 Group 23120 0
27200 Group 27200 0
27264 Group 27264 0
41024 Group 41024 0
41088 Group 41088 0
43584 Group 43584 0
48704 Group 48704 0
48720 Group 48720 0
49280 Group 49280 0
49344 Group 49344 0
49408 Group 49408 0
49472 Group 49472 0
50240 Group 50240 0
50256 Group 50256 0
50272 Group 50272 0
50288 Group 50288 0
50640 Group 50640 0
52800 Group 52800 0
52992 Group 52992 0
54336 Group 54336 0
57600 Group 57600 0
57648 Group 57648 0
57664 Group 57664 0
57680 Group 57680 0
57728 Group 57728 0
57856 Group 57856 0
57888 Group 57888 0
57904 Group 57904 0
57920 Group 57920 0
57936 Group 57936 0
57952 Group 57952 0
57968 Group 57968 0
57984 Group 57984 0
58000 Group 58000 0
58112 Group 58112 0
58144 Group 58144 0
58160 Group 58160 0
58176 Group 58176 0
58368 Group 58368 0
58400 Group 58400 0
58512 Group 58512 0
59648 Group 59648 0
59664 Group 59664 0
59680 Group 59680 0
59696 Group 59696 0
59712 Group 59712 0
59728 Group 59728 0
59744 Group 59744 0
59776 Group 59776 0
59904 Group 59904 0
59920 Group 59920 0
59936 Group 59936 0
59968 Group 59968 0
60208 Group 60208 0
60288 Group 60288 0
60512 Group 60512 0
60528 Group 60528 0
60560 Group 60560 0
60736 Group 60736 0
60752 Group 60752 0
60800 Group 60800 0
60816 Group 60816 0
Wildcard Group Wildcard 0
Sierra 8 2nd & broadway
Didn't want to make it sound like there was a conflict or anything but I had no idea some of these trunking systems would be so frustrating. Hope those #s help.
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06-14-2009, 11:51 PM
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The latenight UPS traffic chrizby mentioned is pretty interesting. It's definitely UPS-related (I've also checked flight numbers and ramp assignments), but I don't think it's actually UPS corporate since UPS has their own big honkin' trunk system. I'm thinking it might be a contractor or something that does something for/with UPS. Just like chrizby, pure guess.
If it is UPS corporate, maybe it's a part of their logistics ops? They would be relatively low volume compared to the rest, and UPS has acquired a lot of their logistics groups so they not be outfitted with UPS radios yet. Anyone else have any info?
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