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Wired headset is probably where I should go for now. Its cheaper, should be easier to setup, and no compatibility issues, no interference.

So i guess the next tact is how do I get a wired connection to the 8180, the DB-25 to a headset jack? Then another pinout for the existing PTT handle bar switch?
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Look at that, easy peasey to take the display off. Wish I knew and tried this earlier
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Wired headset is probably where I should go for now. Its cheaper, should be easier to setup, and no compatibility issues, no interference.

So i guess the next tact is how do I get a wired connection to the 8180, the DB-25 to a headset jack? Then another pinout for the existing PTT handle bar switch?
Depends entirely on what helmet headset you are going to use. Pick the headset and work backwards from there.
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Yet another area i need to plumb.

So my Deputy buddy informed me the difference between two earplugs versus two speakers. The former is illegal, whilst the latter is not

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Yet another area i need to plumb.

So my Deputy buddy informed me the difference between two earplugs versus two speakers. The former is illegal, whilst the latter is not

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Looks like an easy choice!
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Looks like an easy choice!
How so?

Well on the BT side of the equation, this was made to order for the 8180 accessory port:

https://www.amazon.com/Pryme-BT-M31-.../dp/B071CK2TJC
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Iíll make this new post, now that I believe KAYN answered my question, but I didnít get it until after I posted

1. The KT-8180 display face plate comes off, and can be used as a remote display when attached to the KRK kit? If so, thatís perfect, and this accessory kit is all I need.
Correct. The KCH-10 is what you need to convert the TK-8180 from dash mount to remote mount. Everything you

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2. So the KCH-10/11 (TK-890 display head) that I have is of no value to my remote 8180 goal, yes?
Correct. If you want to use the TK-8180, then the TK-890 control head and microphone are of no use to you.

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3. Iíll need a custom cable to interconnect the Sena to 8180, and a wiring diagram.
Something akin to this, but tailored for the 8180
Sort of correct. Sena sells a cable that has the hirose connector on one end, and bare wires on the other. you will need to correctly solder a DB-25 to the cable. then you will have to configure the port in the software, for the Sena to work with the TK-8180.
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Wired headset is probably where I should go for now. Its cheaper, should be easier to setup, and no compatibility issues, no interference.

So i guess the next tact is how do I get a wired connection to the 8180, the DB-25 to a headset jack? Then another pinout for the existing PTT handle bar switch?
it would be no different to use a wired hgeadset vs. the Sena. you would still need to use the DB-25.
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How so?

Well on the BT side of the equation, this was made to order for the 8180 accessory port:

https://www.amazon.com/Pryme-BT-M31-.../dp/B071CK2TJC
That is the same idea as the Sena, except it is likely powered by the radio and already has the DB-25 attached. You would still need to configure the DB-25 on the radio to work with that product.
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Right...

Purchased:
KRK-10
8180 programming sw cdrom and cable

Still on the fence with wired or wireless comm gear. Like you said, its using and programming the 8180 accessory port either way. The cost difference between the two connectivity options being the difference

This investiture is not riding well with SWMBO, aka CFO, aka Congtressional Budget Committee
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This investiture is not riding well with SWMBO, aka CFO, aka Congtressional Budget Committee
Ah, yes, the Minister of War and Finance. Best keep them happy yet things get ugly.

Last I looked, our motor officers were using wired helmets. They work well. Bluetooth can be a good option, but then you have to remember to "charge your helmet". It WILL run out of batteries at the wrong moment.
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Im curious, can the 8180’s front panel mic input jack be used to plug a wired headset into, instead of using the accessory 25 pin port and all the programming hassel?

Do headsets come with this 5 pin jack?
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Im curious, can the 8180ís front panel mic input jack be used to plug a wired headset into, instead of using the accessory 25 pin port and all the programming hassel?

Do headsets come with this 5 pin jack?


The RJ-45 does not have RX audio, you would need to get receive audio from the external speaker or the DB-25 regardless.
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I've done telephone style handsets for NX-900's (NXDN-800MHz version of the TK-8180) and it's much easier to use the rear DB-25 connector. It has the proper interfaces to do what you want, plus it retains the front speaker functionality which can be handy if you have your helmet removed.

You can either keep the hand mic on the radio head if you want to use that, or just remove it and use the headset.
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OK I guess it’s time to buy an accessory cable or build one

X10DR X-Ponder 1.5m Interface Cables
https://www.rfiamericas.com/product/kenwood-db25-tk690/
https://www.mobileteam-2wayradio.co....k7180-8180.htm
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The bits are coming together...

Next is:
- getting the kit and programming the 8180
- buying and modifying a DB25 cable and PTT
- wiring up the bits to the bike
- buying a wired comm headset (and interfacing it to the radio cable)
- mounting the radio base brick and remote front controls panel
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8180 programming software loaded on my Win8.1 pc.
I donít see how the accessory port is accessed to program the port for the DB25 cable?

Anyone here can advise?
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Old 05-10-2018, 8:57 PM
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Well for one you have the wrong software for that model. You need to have KPG-89DN to be able to program a 8180.

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Old 05-10-2018, 10:56 PM
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Thank you Ram,

Apparently thereís a few KPGs that are assigned to the 8180, I just grabbed the first. After installing the KPG-89D (there were 3: vanilla, v1.02, v1.10). One has to install as Admin due to its installation in Windows protected area.

So this looks like the right tool, next to know what function values are needed to run the remote front panel and PTT
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