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07-31-2011, 8:59 AM
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Honestly, does Facebook have to be here at all? We're not a bunch of 17 year old girls in the RR community.
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07-31-2011, 11:21 AM
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I actually agree with Rob to some extend. I refuse to put "Like" buttons on any of my websites. The extent of Facebook on my sites have to do with sharing. Honestly I don't care who "likes" my website, if people send information in that means they like my website
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07-31-2011, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by blantonl
I am going to look into a solution that would allow feed providers to moderate and admin comments on their feeds.
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Lindsay, if I decided to add a feed for my area is there a way to keep my feed OFF of fakebook entirely?
Obviously I'm not a fan of that site.
Thanks!
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07-31-2011, 4:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob1956
Honestly, does Facebook have to be here at all? We're not a bunch of 17 year old girls in the RR community.
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yeah gets +1 from me as well
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07-31-2011, 5:05 PM
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Thanks for the support. My point is: does having FB present here contribute that much to RR itself and to the people who participate here? If the admins of RR really feel FB should be here, ok..but maybe spell it out for us exactly what the advantages are as opposed to having a forum for snotty, off topic remarks. Yeah, we have to deal with that in life, but this is a hobby and why dilute our hobby with negative stuff, if we don't have to? That's all...
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07-31-2011, 5:29 PM
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Let me quote a recent post by Lindsay:
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Folks, listen, you have no idea how much traffic the recent Facebook integration has brought to the feeds and the site in general. Facebook is now our #1 referrer to the site, even over *Google*.
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So, i don't see facebook going anywhere any time soon.
Lindsay is working just as hard as he can to give feed providers a way to moderate facebook post on their feeds, just bare with us.
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07-31-2011, 6:07 PM
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I don't do FaceBook; my daughters do. I showed them the live audio feeds -I know the younger one has shared them with a bunch of friends. Now you might be of the frame of mind that more is not better (the argument being presented that this will lead to more encryption....). I think that the more folks "addicted" to the streaming, the more pressure for transparency, not because the LE administrators themselves would respond, but if they get heat from the legislators they get their funding from, they tend to listen. The Jacksonville situation is a case where the folks need to talk to talk loudly to county reps, not just the Sheriff.. (and remind them ALL that they are elected). Like 'em or not, IMHO the Facebook links ARE important and not just because they help Lindsay keep this ship afloat.
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07-31-2011, 7:08 PM
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Thank you, Astrak, that was good of you to give us a choice. Choice is the American way.
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07-31-2011, 8:28 PM
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Does this also keep a feed from showing up on FB?
I will not add my feed unless I can keep mine off of FB.
Thanks for your info!
73,
n9zas
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07-31-2011, 8:47 PM
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a) you can't keep anything off facebook these days. Even if they take the boxes away people can just post the link. Facebook and Google+ are not going anyplace so just get over the fear of it and move on.
b) that blocking script above now that you posted it public will likely mean the end of the SOURCE button in the html editor I suspect. You just shot yourself in the foot.
Being able to edit the posts left will be a good thing. getting rid of it will never happen so you have two choices, 1) stream 2) don't stream
thats your only two choices.
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07-31-2011, 9:03 PM
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Originally Posted by webstar22
a) you can't keep anything off facebook these days. Even if they take the boxes away people can just post the link. Facebook and Google+ are not going anyplace so just get over the fear of it and move on.
b) that blocking script above now that you posted it public will likely mean the end of the SOURCE button in the html editor I suspect. You just shot yourself in the foot.
Being able to edit the posts left will be a good thing. getting rid of it will never happen so you have two choices, 1) stream 2) don't stream
thats your only two choices.
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a)Correct.
b)I would have shot myself in the foot if I care, which I don't.
It wasn't intended on preventing anything that's just what happened, I don't know how or why besides it says something about an href parameter being missing.
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07-31-2011, 9:05 PM
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Originally Posted by gewecke
Does this also keep a feed from showing up on FB?
I will not add my feed unless I can keep mine off of FB.
Thanks for your info!
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n9zas
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I have no idea, probably not though. I put that on my page before RR added the facebook plugin.
Although I'm not aware of feeds being on Facebook.
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07-31-2011, 9:31 PM
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Originally Posted by gewecke
Does this also keep a feed from showing up on FB?
I will not add my feed unless I can keep mine off of FB.
Thanks for your info!
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No. You can't stop people from linking to your feed (or any other page for that matter) from Facebook or any other site...
The feeds don't actually /play/ on facebook, so I don't know what you're so concerned about... 
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07-31-2011, 10:19 PM
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Facebook Postings.
Many thanks for your suggestions. I don't like the idea that anybody can post profanities on my feeds and I can't delete them. I guess I can always delete my feed if that is what it takes to remove profane facebook posts.
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07-31-2011, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by redhat
Many thanks for your suggestions. I don't like the idea that anybody can post profanities on my feeds and I can't delete them. I guess I can always delete my feed if that is what it takes to remove profane facebook posts.
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Did you happen to read my post?
Lindsay is working on a way for providers to moderate facebook post on their feed.
Please people, he is working on it. Your not being ignored.
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08-01-2011, 12:11 AM
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My source button survived just fine.
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08-01-2011, 8:36 PM
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Broadcasters,
We've made it clear that Facebook integration isn't going away and that we are working hard to give broadcasters the ability to moderate posts that are in regards to their feeds. Although that has not been resolved yet, we are very aware of your concerns.
However, those of you that actively seek to disable functionality that we have implemented are directly undermining our efforts to develop and implement a clear an consistent platform. So with that in mind, let me make this crystal clear:
if you don't like the platform and audience that we have made available for you to broadcast to, then you are free to terminate your feed.
Translation: If you don't want to play by our rules, then you don't have to play at all.
Our team is going to work to revert the malicious code that you've entered into your additional details pages. If you decide to fight us on this, we reserve the right to immediately terminate your feed. You have been warned.
Folks, seriously, if you've got such a serious problem with it then disconnect your feed and move on and take your feed private. Otherwise, please be patient with us as we work to give you the ability to delete Facebook posts related to your feeds.
Finally, for all feed broadcasters - your feeds receive an enormous audience boost from the Facebook integration. So much so that we could probably directly attribute 30% of our new subscriber base over the past year to folks referred to us via Facebook when major events happen.
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08-01-2011, 8:43 PM
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All most of us are saying, we agree with the facebook integration, its the inappropriate rude remarks that are left as comments, that most have an issue with. All most want is the ability for us or even a email to a mod to have the offending comments removed.
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08-01-2011, 8:54 PM
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I have embraced Facebook, fact is I had my stream online and was on Facebook with 200 "likes" before I knew about RR. I am not saying you should "hangout on Facebook" but it is nice for status updates because more people know how to use Facebook (what's there to know?) and status updates get sent right to them. They do not have to go and find out why their favorite feed is down.
Bellingham Scanner Kicks ***! | Facebook
(replace the *** with an "a" and an "ss" in he URL since RR's naughty word threshold is set so low it even censors URL's)
Or follow the feed provider link in my profile and the link to my Facebook page is at the bottom and "Like" me while you are there  
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08-01-2011, 9:15 PM
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So be it. If that's what admin wants, I can live with it. Not worth much more time typing about it. But if FB integration is mentioned in the TOS below, I'll really shut up!
Feed Provider Terms of Service
Feed providers agree to follow these terms of service when broadcasting to RadioReference.com
Law Enforcement Feeds
Feed providers agree to ONLY broadcast routine dispatch and special events channels and talkgroups for law enforcement agencies.
Fire / EMS / Rescue Feeds
Feed providers agree to ONLY broadcast routine dispatch operations and fireground / on scene operations for fire, EMS, and rescue agencies.
Feed providers agree to not broadcast dedicated channels or talkgroups for Ambulance to Hospital Communications.
Feed providers agree to not broadcast dedicated channels or talkgroups related to investigations, arson, and fire marshal activities.
Federal / Military Feeds
Feed providers agree to not broadcast dedicated Federal Government communications, except where the communications related to fire fighting, EMS operations, space shuttle launch or ISS communications, and park ranger operations, subject to the terms of service in the other related categories.
Other Feeds
Feed providers agree to not broadcast any commercial service broadcast (FM/AM/TV etc)
Feed providers agree to not broadcast music or talk show of any kind (commercial or non-commercial)
Feed providers agree to not broadcast DJ or other type of similar activity (commercial or non-commercial)
Feed providers agree to not broadcast open microphones (feed device/computer mic, surveillance, stage mics, mics at venues, churches, performances, etc)
Feed providers agree to not broadcast schools/school buses communications
Feed providers agree to not broadcast citizens Band (CB) communications
Feed providers agree to not broadcast GMRS, FRS or MURS (either simplex or repeaters)
Feed providers agree to not broadcast NOAA Weather Radio (See Wunderground for a host)
Feed providers agree to not broadcast private businesses (Taxis, Buses, Towing, Security, Rental etc)
Feed providers agree to not broadcast any other content the RadioReference staff feels is inappropriate for the RadioReference audience.
Administration
Feed providers agree to follow all policies and directions with regard to Breaking News and Feed Alerts, secondary descriptions, and status messages.
If a feed provider violates the above listed terms of service without authorization, RadioReference reserves the right to immediately terminate the feed.
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