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Old 09-21-2012, 2:47 PM
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RadioShack PRO-197 Digital Desktop Scanner (Refurbished) : Desktop Scanners | RadioShack.com


is this a good digital scanner that will pickup LAWIN network in Louisiana? i can't afford one of the nicer ones just wondering if this would work and pickup LAWIN. THANKS MUCH
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LWIN is an APCO 25 digital trunking system, so the PRO-197 will be able to receive it.

I suggest you post your question in the Louisiana forums and try to get some responses from the members in that area, some of which may be using the PRO-197 and can give you more detailed responses.

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LWIN is an APCO 25 digital trunking system, so the PRO-197 will be able to receive it.

I suggest you post your question in the Louisiana forums and try to get some responses from the members in that area, some of which may be using the PRO-197 and can give you more detailed responses.

Hope this helps....

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thanks very much for the response, thats good to hear cause i was not looking forward to comeing up with the cash for that uniden that had like 25000 channel capacity was like $445 on amazon. thanks much for your time and response.
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My Uniden BCD 396T worked just fine when I was in Louisiana 3 years ago.
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When I am in the Bogalusa,La. I used the Uniden 396XT Scanner, It works great both of the LWIN, Any trunk systems and conventional systems that I have programmed along the away from Missouri.
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is this digital or analog? or will it work on LWIN system? i have a uniden bc95xlt handheld and it just does not pick up much other than ems and ham radio i think because its a analog scanner. i am trying to go the cheapest route to hear state police and others on LWIN .also i am not very familiar with trunking other than what all i have read.
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is this digital or analog? or will it work on LWIN system? i have a uniden bc95xlt handheld and it just does not pick up much other than ems and ham radio i think because its a analog scanner. i am trying to go the cheapest route to hear state police and others on LWIN .also i am not very familiar with trunking other than what all i have read.
The Pro-163 won't do you any good if you want to listen to the LWIN 700mhz P25 system it doesn't do that.

I have a Pro-106 that I use for LWIN. I live in East Baton Rouge Parish probably 95% of the stuff I listen to is on LWIN.
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The Pro-163 won't do you any good if you want to listen to the LWIN 700mhz P25 system it doesn't do that.

I have a Pro-106 that I use for LWIN. I live in East Baton Rouge Parish probably 95% of the stuff I listen to is on LWIN.
so this RadioShack PRO-197 Digital Desktop Scanner (Refurbished) : Desktop Scanners | RadioShack.com will most likely be the cheapest i can get for the LWIN stuff?
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is this digital or analog? or will it work on LWIN system? i have a uniden bc95xlt handheld and it just does not pick up much other than ems and ham radio i think because its a analog scanner. i am trying to go the cheapest route to hear state police and others on LWIN .also i am not very familiar with trunking other than what all i have read.
The RS scanners you'll need are the Pro 106 (handheld), Pro 197 (base/mobile), or Pro 18 (handheld with RR database on SD card). Although the Pro 96 and Pro 2096 are both digital scanners, they will not trunktrack in the 700 MHz band so they won't work on the LWIN system.

The similar GRE models should also work well on LWIN. These are the PSR 500 (handheld), the PSR 600 (base/mobile), or PSR 800 (handheld with RR database on SD card - a superset of the features on the RS Pro-18 so it's generally a better scanner for about the same money). Although the PSR 800 and Pro 18 are somewhat different, the other models are quite similar feature wise comparing the RS and GRE versions. The RS handheld and GRE handheld look fairly different since the speaker is mounted differently, but otherwise they're the same animal inside (save the firmware that says GRE on one and RS on the other).

One other thing to think about though is that Ruston PD used Voice Inversion (a very simple encryption method) on their old frequency for some officers. Since their LWIN talkgroups are not yet identified (or at least not yet in the RR database) it isn't known if they'll use any encryption. If your goal is to hear them, you may want to wait until this is known since if they encrypt your scanner choice is reduced to zero since none will work on an encrypted signal. FD, EMS, and Campus groups were in the clear so they may remain so on LWIN if they move as well.
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The RS scanners you'll need are the Pro 106 (handheld), Pro 197 (base/mobile), or Pro 18 (handheld with RR database on SD card). Although the Pro 96 and Pro 2096 are both digital scanners, they will not trunktrack in the 700 MHz band so they won't work on the LWIN system.

The similar GRE models should also work well on LWIN. These are the PSR 500 (handheld), the PSR 600 (base/mobile), or PSR 800 (handheld with RR database on SD card - a superset of the features on the RS Pro-18 so it's generally a better scanner for about the same money). Although the PSR 800 and Pro 18 are somewhat different, the other models are quite similar feature wise comparing the RS and GRE versions. The RS handheld and GRE handheld look fairly different since the speaker is mounted differently, but otherwise they're the same animal inside (save the firmware that says GRE on one and RS on the other).

One other thing to think about though is that Ruston PD used Voice Inversion (a very simple encryption method) on their old frequency for some officers. Since their LWIN talkgroups are not yet identified (or at least not yet in the RR database) it isn't known if they'll use any encryption. If your goal is to hear them, you may want to wait until this is known since if they encrypt your scanner choice is reduced to zero since none will work on an encrypted signal. FD, EMS, and Campus groups were in the clear so they may remain so on LWIN if they move as well.


i just bought my 1st scanner awhile back a handheld bc95xlt, i think when i go into town it picks up the pd seems just fine, i have the s.o. in it as well and very very rarely hear them talk usually special events think its called. other than that i just get local repeaters and EMS.i do however seem to pick up w monroe pd and S.O. pretty good as well as grambling pd,the LA TECH pd seems to be non existant on the freqs listed here.
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The Pro-163 won't do you any good if you want to listen to the LWIN 700mhz P25 system it doesn't do that.

I have a Pro-106 that I use for LWIN. I live in East Baton Rouge Parish probably 95% of the stuff I listen to is on LWIN.
it shows the pro163 does recieve 700mhz on the tag from the local radioshack store
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It will receive 700 mhz .......but it wont decode the digital stuff
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It will receive 700 mhz .......but it wont decode the digital stuff
ahh ok i understand now thanks for the info i'm pretty new with scanners
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i think i will go ahead and order the radioshack pro-197, is there a program i can use to program all the freqs that way when i can get it can just plug it in and put them on it?
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well guess not there out of stock!! will this be a good s canner for what i need then? RadioShack PRO-96
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well guess not there out of stock!! will this be a good s canner for what i need then? RadioShack PRO-96
The Pro-96 would not be a good choice. It will not trunk-track frequencies in the 700MHz range. While it is a digital scanner, it won't work for the system you need to cover, LWIN. Many of it's sites, including the one in Ruston (Lincoln County) use 700MHz frequencies.

Don't forget that GRE makes the Pro-197 for Radio Shack. The equivalent GRE model is the PSR-600. The handheld Pro-106 is also made by GRE; the equivalent is the PSR-500. GRE includes the pc interface cables with their digital scanners, and the ac adapters. Radio Shack sells the cables separately ($30-$35), and also the ac adapter for the handheld Pro-106. The GRE scanners can be found at dealers such as ScannerMaster, and Grove, as well as others, plus on Amazon. You can also find them at times in the classifieds here on RadioReference, on eBay, and elsewhere.

Software for the GRE manufactured digital scanners (which would also include the two Radio Shack models, Pro-106 & Pro-197) is covered on this Wiki page.

The current Uniden models BCD396XT & BCD996XT would also work on the LAWIN system. These can be programmed with FreeSCAN. However, the previous models, BCD396T & BCD996T would also work, and might be found, used, in the $300, possibly lower, range. FreeSCAN works for those as well.
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The Pro-96 would not be a good choice. It will not trunk-track frequencies in the 700MHz range. While it is a digital scanner, it won't work for the system you need to cover, LWIN. Many of it's sites, including the one in Ruston (Lincoln County) use 700MHz frequencies.

Don't forget that GRE makes the Pro-197 for Radio Shack. The equivalent GRE model is the PSR-600. The handheld Pro-106 is also made by GRE; the equivalent is the PSR-500. GRE includes the pc interface cables with their digital scanners, and the ac adapters. Radio Shack sells the cables separately ($30-$35), and also the ac adapter for the handheld Pro-106. The GRE scanners can be found at dealers such as ScannerMaster, and Grove, as well as others, plus on Amazon. You can also find them at times in the classifieds here on RadioReference, on eBay, and elsewhere.

Software for the GRE manufactured digital scanners (which would also include the two Radio Shack models, Pro-106 & Pro-197) is covered on this Wiki page.

The current Uniden models BCD396XT & BCD996XT would also work on the LAWIN system. These can be programmed with FreeSCAN. However, the previous models, BCD396T & BCD996T would also work, and might be found, used, in the $300, possibly lower, range. FreeSCAN works for those as well.
so if i find a Pro197 or the GRE equal to it then that would work fine? can someone maybe list my options thanks.
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so if i find a Pro197 or the GRE equal to it then that would work fine? can someone maybe list my options thanks.
The PSR-600 is the same scanner as the Pro-197. The only real difference is that the 600 carries a GRE brand label, and the 197 has Radio Shack's label (but it's made for them by GRE). Also, the PSR-600 comes with the pc interface cable. Radio shack charges extra for that. The cable is required for the occasional firmware update, and is also a necessity if you plan to program using software.

Don't forget that the 600 can usually be found on Amazon, as well as eBay, and the online dealers mentioned above (there are a number of others).
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