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Old 01-25-2014, 1:13 PM
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I found a tow company on a LTR system where each radio has its own talkgroup. Each truck has its own, and even each dispatcher (likely separate dispatch consoles).

Is that normal? Seems a bit overkill. Why would they do that?

This same system has other users, but each company has only 1 talkgroup.
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I found a tow company on a LTR system where each radio has its own talkgroup. Each truck has its own, and even each dispatcher (likely separate dispatch consoles).

Is that normal? Seems a bit overkill. Why would they do that?

This same system has other users, but each company has only 1 talkgroup.
It's common when you don't want the drivers to talk to each other or don't want the drivers to know where the others are being dispatched to (prevents them from stealing calls).
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They do it to see which idiot is blasting music over the radio.

Also, since pretty much every tow company is a den of thieves, system owners will set them up this way to catch illegal radio cloning. When five different voices come through with the same LTR ID, it's time to disable all of their IDs until they bring in the cloned radios for proper programming. They're amazingly cooperative when all of their LTR comms are down and revenue generating calls aren't being dispatched. Go figure...

And naturally, their monthly airtime bill goes up to reflect four more subscribers (so about another $950 to $1200 per year for the airtime provider)
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It's common when you don't want the drivers to talk to each other or don't want the drivers to know where the others are being dispatched to (prevents them from stealing calls).
I don't doubt you however Repo & Transport work is where the money is only a rookie will work straight out tow-jobs.
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I don't doubt you however Repo & Transport work is where the money is only a rookie will work straight out tow-jobs.
Not in the Houston area, body shop commissions are where the money is here.
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Not in the Houston area, body shop commissions are where the money is here.
Well in Florida that is not how it works and we have chop shops dirty body shops you name it. Still the money is Transport for auctions and repo work Texas must be a different animal.
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It's common when you don't want the drivers to talk to each other or don't want the drivers to know where the others are being dispatched to (prevents them from stealing calls).
Ah, that make sense. This particular tow company is divided into two service areas with one shop/base yard in each, and come to think of it, I have never heard trucks or dispatchers of one talking with those of the other. So they are likely assigning separate talkgroups to separate the radio traffic by service areas as well.

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I have a cab company in pocono here and they do the same thing Dispatcher on pne TGID and the other cabs have own. pretty neat
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i know a few repo people i texas and from what i hear the houston area pd's pretty much encourage wreck chasing lol. florida is a great state for repo work have a few friends there who repo there i am in philly where i am wreck chasing is big business too. i only do repo's and ppi towing though.


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We have a couple of CAB companies in Philadelphia that use a TG per car essentially for the prior mentioned reasons.
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what cab companies do that? most in philly use the sunshine system the dispatcher is one talk group but the
cabs can hear each other chatting and each others dispatches which tells me they are all one talk group.

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I found a tow company on a LTR system where each radio has its own talkgroup. Each truck has its own, and even each dispatcher (likely separate dispatch consoles).

Is that normal? Seems a bit overkill. Why would they do that?

This same system has other users, but each company has only 1 talkgroup.
years ago where I lived at one cab company had 2 talkgroups. 1 was for Dispatch and the other for the drivers.
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Might be that they are cross-coded; dispatch talks on say tg 100 and cabs listen to that, and cabs talk on tg 101 and dispatch listens to 101. That way cabs can't yak with each other.
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LTR-Regular does not support individual radio IDs. If you want the dispatcher to know which unit is transmitting, then you need to configure the system so that each unit has its own "talkgroup." I have seen a school district do that with their buses.
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Built an LTR system with Kenwood Fleetsync in the mobiles, and Dispatch and the cars were cross-coded as above. The Fleetsync was incredibly handy when individual drivers got behind on their rent, made it very easy to stun the radios until they came in & paid the bill, and the revival fee.
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