Springfield PD/FD Radio ID's

[fourthhorseman]

Just thought Id share some UID/RID's that Ive logged..FD IDs have be obtained during morning radio tests..There are more IDs for the FD..But these are a good starting point...

PD IDs are too varied,only ones Ive been able to confirm were K9 teams..

Dispatchers are also listed,Ive tagged them and also included the RID in the alpha tag..

They have all been acquired with my 436HP..

Add to them,in replies if you have them...

5700 SFD ARSON SQ 5700
5800 SFD ARSON SQ 5800
2383 SFD LADDER 1-B 2383
2384 SFD LADDER 1-C 2384
1662 SFD ENGINE 5-A 1662
2365 SFD ENGINE 5-B 2365
2366 SFD ENGINE 5-C 2366
1670 SFD LADDER 5-A 1670
2389 SFD LADDER 5-B 2389
2390 SFD LADDER5-C 2390
1663 SFD ENGINE 8-A 1663
2368 SFD ENGINE 8-B 2368
2369 SFD ENGINE 8-C 2369
2392 SFD LADDER 8-B 2392
2394 SFD LADDER 8-C 2394
152 SFD RESCUE A 152
2398 SFD RESCUE B 2398
2399 SFD RESCUE C 2399
1664 SFD ENGINE 9-A 1664
2371 SFD ENGINE 9-B 2371
2372 SFD ENGINE 9-C 2372
860 SFD ENGINE 10-A 860
2374 SFD ENGINE 10-B 2374
2376 SFD ENGINE 10-C 2376
2406 SFD ENG-10 PUMP 2406
340 SFD ENGINE 12-A 340
2377 SFD ENGINE 12-B 2377
2378 SFD ENGINE 12-C 2378
1973 SFD ENGINE 16-A 1973
2380 SFD ENGINE 16-B 2380
2381 SFD ENGINE 16-C 2381
116 SPD-K9 UNIT 116
516 SPD-K9 UNIT 516
427 SPD-K9 UNIT 427
115 SPD-K9 UNIT 115
295 SPD-K9 UNIT 295
150 SPD-K9 UNIT 150
18 SPD-K9 UNIT 18
353 SPD K9 UNIT 353
1743 SFD LADDER-8 1743
1671 SFD LADDER-8 1671
1749 SFD LADDER-5 1749
1671 SFD LADDER 8-A 1671
2395 SFD LADDER-3 2395
1755 SFD LADDER-1 1755
1737 SFD ENGINE-9 1737
1759 SFD ENGINE-8 1759
1750 SFD ENGINE-5 1750
1745 SFD ENGINE-3 1745
1661 SFD ENGINE-3 1661
451 SFD ENGINE-16 451
1753 SFD ENGINE-12 1753
1754 SFD ENGINE-10 1754
1729 SFD ENGINE-1 1729
155 SFD ENGINE-1 155
5600 SFD ARSON 5600
2417 SFD ENGINE 1-B 2417
2360 SFD ENGINE 1-C 2360
2362 SFD ENGINE 3-B 2362
1688 SFD LADDER 1-A 1688
1668 SFD LADDER 1 1668
1669 SFD LADDER 3-A 1669
2386 SFD LADDER 3-B 2386
2387 SFD LADDER 3-C 2387
448 SFD ENGINE-1 448
594 SFD CHIEF-2 594
593 SFD CHIEF-1 593
8004 RECORDS
3 PD DISPATCH-3
2 PD DISPATCH-2
1 FD DISPATCH
8000 REPAIR-1 8000
149 SFD CHIEF-1 149

 

[creeperjeep]

So basically no rhyme or reason.

 

[fourthhorseman]

To what?..Im not following.

 

[cg]

They are all over the place. Must have been a big box o' radios and they told everybody to grab one.

He means there is no sequence, no pattern to how the programmed ID number relates to the function.
Some places do something like
1001 = FD Chief
1010 = FD Engine 1
1011 = FD E1 Officer
2001 = PD chief
3001 = DPW Superintendent
etc

chris

 

[fourthhorseman]

Yeah,I know the PD Side is like that on a day to day basis..K9 was the only consistant player on the system...PD side that is...
Your right though,,the techs must have been tossin them out like garterbelts at a wedding...

The philadelphia (where I was living) TRS was easy to pin down..18th pd dist was 618XX,,,12th dist was 612XX..9th 609XX...

 

[fourthhorseman]

So basically no rhyme or reason.

Sorry I didnt get what you were saying..was one of those things lost in translation from the screen to my brain..

 

[ecps92]

IT does look (just browsing) like Consoles are 1-2 digits, Vehicles are 3 digits and portables/mobiles are 4 digits (just my WAG)

Some Dept's, it is still, Go in Get a Radio, finish shift, Turn in the radio.
Which then means a different radio each shift.

Others have radios assigned to the Officer on a full-time basis, however his/her cruiser might change each shift.

And for the FD, unless the Radio is specifically marked Ladder 1C, you might find it used by Ladder 1B someday.

The MSP have it down pretty good
74xxxx - Analog Portables where xxxx = Troopers Badge #
75xxxx - Analog Mobiles where (most of the time) xxxx = Cruiser #
76xxxx - Astro Portables
59xxxx = Consoles
64xxxx = Some consoles
65xxxx = Consoles

Yeah,I know the PD Side is like that on a day to day basis..K9 was the only consistant player on the system...PD side that is...
Your right though,,the techs must have been tossin them out like garterbelts at a wedding...

The philadelphia (where I was living) TRS was easy to pin down..18th pd dist was 618XX,,,12th dist was 612XX..9th 609XX...

 

[fourthhorseman]

Your right,MSP dose have a solid structure going..

DOC/transport radios are consistent too...Airwinig, K9's...Makes it easy and convenient as far as ID-ing
the user on the air at the time when specialty units are switching TGs regularly...I believe Airwing also has a RID that pops up on the SPD P25..
Hear them one day,but it was on a PSR 500,that was only set ups as a P25 channel,,didnt have my 436 that has it set up as a 1 freq trunk
so I missed that one..

The Springfield FD,,Im wondering if the Ladder/Engine RIDs A,B,C,,,if they are the truck mounted rigs..I also catch stray IDs that sound more like handhelds..

 

[RKG]

MDC 1200 ID Lists:

Back in the day when MDC PTT-ID displays were limited to the programmed ID (either native hex, decimal equivalent, or padded decimal equivalent), structuring lists was useful or important. However, this greatly complicates list maintenance, as you either had to leave blanks for expansion and changes or you had to go out and touch the entire subscriber fleet if ID reassignments were made.

Nowadays, both consoles and PTT-ID displaying subscribers make use of alias lists that makes life much easier for those of us who maintain systems, since it no longer matters whether Eng1's front mobile and its pump panel mobile use adjacent native IDs.

As for the day-to-day consistency of an ID to function, typical PD and FD deployments are different. Whoever is funtioning as Eng1 officer will always use the portable assigned to that function. However, most police officers have portables assigned to them personally, and the officer's ID doesn't change if he is assigned to Sector 1 one day and Traffic 2 the next day.

Trunked Subscriber IDs:

Here structure, or at least grouping, is important because the ID controls system access and privileges and are programmed in the controller in blocks.

 

[xplorer417]

chief 1s mobile is 149 he also has two portables w him one on rptr ch and other on tac 5 or 6 ch when at a incident.engine 1 is the mobile Id

 

[fourthhorseman]

Its on there!..Last on the list..
Ive actually logged 2 RIDs for Chief-1...

149 & 593..

Whats the repeater CH?..is it the WEMLEC Intercity?

 

[cg]

The two main fire channels are repeated, the fireground channels are not.

The hassle with the MDC aliases is that any changes must be reprogrammed into every radio. Some of the DMR based systems allow for the alias to be transmitted eliminating the need for touching the radio for changes.

chris

 

[xplorer417]

I just saw this in the news other day might want to see what special hazards radio Ids are the old hazmat 1 now renamed to special hazards unit.
most of the radio Ids come from last four of the serial numbers of the radios.engine 1A 2417 Id I have seen used by the personal In dispatch in the past.